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TSazbro
post Jul 11 2009, 09:37 PM, updated 16y ago

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Well, I'm in a situation now...

I've got these equipments sharing a single plug point (sighs).
1) 42inch Plasma TV
2) HTS
3) Wireless Modem
4) Media Player
5) Small fan for for the Media player

Now I wanna add:
6) Vantec Hardisk docking
7) Spare...for my gaminig laptop (90w)

I think I will overload the plug.

Do i have to change the wirings from the DB?...Its a hassle cause the wires are built in to the walls.
The wiring is standard and came with the house
I don't want to hack the wall to do wiring again or use ugly conduits.

Can I just take out the socket, add a ELCB and make 7 plug point from it?

I'm sure some of you that never have enough plug points can share your experience.

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post Jul 11 2009, 11:18 PM

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You don't have any other power point nearby except that one?

Even if few feet away got another point then can use extension cable. I think better to spread the load rather than plug so many things into 1 point.
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post Jul 11 2009, 11:25 PM

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normal socket will give you 13amp, calculate what is the total load you are consuming. If your need is less than the supply, just make sure your extension cable is a good thick one...everything should be fine..
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post Jul 12 2009, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jul 11 2009, 11:18 PM)
You don't have any other power point nearby except that one?

Even if few feet away got another point then can use extension cable. I think better to spread the load rather than plug so many things into 1 point.
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yalor, nowadays house also they cut cost...I've got another point abt 10meters away sad.gif


QUOTE(shuttersyok @ Jul 11 2009, 11:25 PM)
normal socket will give you 13amp, calculate what is the total load you are consuming.  If your need is less than the supply, just make sure your extension cable is a good thick one...everything should be fine..
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I think there are not much choices for AC cords extension cables, so far never see very thick ones, anyway, I'll go to the electrical shops to see if they got very long ones...wanna DIY.
Which one better for home?...the hard type of copper or very fine strands type?
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post Jul 12 2009, 08:29 AM

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I think the hard type copper is better.
But usually I will just buy the thickest wire I can find in the shop, and a high quality plug & socket (MK seems to be good).
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post Jul 12 2009, 08:47 AM

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can easily DIY using trailing socket and thick 3-core wire and MK plug less than RM20.

All your gadgets don't conusme much current so can just use 1 socket.
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post Jul 12 2009, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Jul 12 2009, 08:29 AM)
I think the hard type copper is better.
But usually I will just buy the thickest wire I can find in the shop, and a high quality plug & socket (MK seems to be good).
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MK brand huh..will try to find it...nowadays got so many capalang brands, seems like lousy ones also got Sirim stickers on it.

QUOTE(ycs @ Jul 12 2009, 08:47 AM)
can easily DIY using trailing socket and thick 3-core wire and MK plug less than RM20.

All your gadgets don't conusme much current so can just use 1 socket.
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You are right...only the plasma TV consumes the most I think....
There was one time it tripped because I plugin my gaming laptop on it (90W).
So for, without a laptop, it works fine....anyway, I think of adding more plug points from another socket just in case....even though its from a far source.

Thanks for the recommendations smile.gif

This post has been edited by azbro: Jul 12 2009, 10:25 AM
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post Jul 13 2009, 09:23 AM

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Get a 10 meter 'white snake' from htkaki and plug it into another socket, run it into your HT. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 14 2009, 06:14 PM

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Go to Ace HArdware, get the electrical rail called Eubiq. You only need 1 power point wires to connect an entire rail for more power outlets.

Am using this at home, a lot more neater and looks better.

refer to website:http://www.eubiq.com/index.php?id=270
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post Jul 14 2009, 06:16 PM

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Why not get a Belkin surge protector instead? I was at HN earlier, 8 port with antenna + modem protection for less than RM220. Lifetime warranty + RM25k equipment insurance. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 14 2009, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(visigoth90 @ Jul 14 2009, 06:14 PM)
Go to Ace HArdware, get the electrical rail called Eubiq. You only need 1 power point wires to connect an entire rail for more power outlets.

Am using this at home, a lot more neater and looks better.

refer to website:http://www.eubiq.com/index.php?id=270
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nice bro, very nice, I'll look into it.. smile.gif

QUOTE(chewkl @ Jul 14 2009, 06:16 PM)
Why not get a Belkin surge protector instead? I was at HN earlier, 8 port with antenna + modem protection for less than RM220. Lifetime warranty + RM25k equipment insurance. thumbup.gif
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I'll look into that too

Thanks guys
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post Jul 14 2009, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(visigoth90 @ Jul 14 2009, 06:14 PM)
Go to Ace HArdware, get the electrical rail called Eubiq. You only need 1 power point wires to connect an entire rail for more power outlets.

Am using this at home, a lot more neater and looks better.

refer to website:http://www.eubiq.com/index.php?id=270
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I have looked into Eubiq before. While it is quite stylish, to me it is not worth the money.

The Eubiq system has 2 components - the rail and the plugs. The rail is charged by length, I think 1m is RM300-something. Then you have to buy the plugs to fit into the rails. Each plug also not cheap. The main limitation is that one rail draws power only from 1 set of wires. If you are retrofitting the rail in your house, it means 1 rail will draw from one of your old 13A power points. So the whole Eubiq rail can supply power equal to one 13A power point only - it ends up as a glorified power strip. It is not the same as having 2 or more 13A power points.

If you really want the Eubiq rail to be able to handle high current and lots of watts, you have to wire it with a high current wire from the fusebox. Then it can handle more than 13A. But this involves a big re-wiring job and many people might not want to do this.

This post has been edited by jchong: Jul 14 2009, 10:24 PM
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post Jul 14 2009, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jul 14 2009, 10:20 PM)
I have looked into Eubiq before. While it is quite stylish, to me it is not worth the money.

The Eubiq system has 2 components - the rail and the plugs. The rail is charged by length, I think 1m is RM300-something. Then you have to buy the plugs to fit into the rails. Each plug also not cheap. The main limitation is that one rail draws power only from 1 set of wires. If you are retrofitting the rail in your house, it means 1 rail will draw from one of your old 13A power points. So the whole Eubiq rail can supply power equal to one 13A power point only - it ends up as a glorified power strip. It is not the same as having 2 or more 13A power points.

If you really want the Eubiq rail to be able to handle high current and lots of watts, you have to wire it with a high current wire from the fusebox. Then it can handle more than 13A. But this involves a big re-wiring job and many people might not want to do this.
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Thank for the advice...looks like the best thing for me is to pull another wire even though its far.
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post Jul 14 2009, 11:13 PM

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the problem might not be as easy as pulling extension from the other point. A 13A power point can supply up to 3000W. Or rather a fuse in your ELCB can take up to 3000W. If your other powerpoint also sharing the fuse then there is no point if you pull an extention point cause it is from the same fuse. You can test by plugging something in and turn off each of the fuse and see if both the power point turn of at the same time.

Calculate the loading that you are putting on the fuse. A 42 inch plasma is about 300-350W already. Your HTS might take a lot more.

Be careful, else you can fry everything connected or cause a fire...



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post May 14 2010, 11:52 AM

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First I use the ADAPORT to connect to the source at the wall.
I then connect the extension cords to the ADAPORT....
That way I'll have 3x4 = 12-points biggrin.gif

Most AV equipments use very little power (~1A).
So as long as you stick with DVD Player, Playstation, Home Theater, Streamyx Modem, Wifi Router, TV...should be fine.

Just don't connect your vacuum cleaner, iron or any high WATT equipment to it and you should be fine.


Added on May 14, 2010, 11:56 amEubiq is very Expensive....patented product. That's why.
Had to wait few more years until the patent is over and China begin to copy....

QUOTE(visigoth90 @ Jul 14 2009, 06:14 PM)
Go to Ace HArdware, get the electrical rail called Eubiq. You only need 1 power point wires to connect an entire rail for more power outlets.

Am using this at home, a lot more neater and looks better.

refer to website:http://www.eubiq.com/index.php?id=270
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This post has been edited by calvinchin: May 14 2010, 11:56 AM
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post May 14 2010, 12:32 PM

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azbro - your plug points still haven't solved yet since Jul 14 2009? laugh.gif
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post May 14 2010, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ May 14 2010, 12:32 PM)
azbro - your plug points still haven't solved yet since Jul 14 2009? laugh.gif
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Solved...termites damage the existing one, so had to call a wireman to fix it up for me, while he did it, he change the wirings to thicker ones, added a higher rated circuit breaker and more sockets....blardy expensivelah this contractors charges...also had to spend some money to get rid termite as well.

 

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