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 Maxis iPhone Discussion Thread | V1, Strictly Rates/Plans Discussion ONLY

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post Jul 19 2009, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(jonest @ Jul 19 2009, 12:21 AM)
Teikwing,

It's 2 good 2 be true.... hopefully they don't come tell us it was a typo error at the end of the day!!!  shakehead.gif

Anyway a direct comparison:-
16GB + iData 50 (12 mths contract)
Phone = RM2090
iData 50x12= RM600
Total = RM2,690

16GB + Prepaid
Phone = RM2490
Prepaid=RM63
Total = RM2,553

Savings = RM137 = 5% of RM2690!

But what's the rate for over data usage for iData plans? Prepaid is charged at 0.5sen/kb.
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@jonest,

I think your comparison is oversimplified as it does not take into account of voice calls and mms. Your calculation assumes that the user uses the phone merely for data only, of which i believe is unrealistic.
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post Jul 19 2009, 01:31 AM

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Hi guys, i have analysed the rates quite thoroughly and i have concluded that the prepaid plan may not be as attractive as it may seem.

First, i am a light phone users who makes very few voice calls. Although i am currently a non maxis user, i have calculated that my monthly call charges under the hotlink prepaid fee structure is around the region of RM 30 per month.

Thus,
iphone 32G (prepaid) + (RM30x12)= RM2990 + RM360 = RM 3350
iphone 32G (ivalue 1) + (RM100 x12) = RM2290 + RM1200= RM RM3490

So, the difference as u can see is RM 3490 - RM 3350 = RM 140= only 4%!!, which isn't particularly attractive when you consider the massive 333 minutes of call minutes that comes with ivalue 1.

What do you think?


Added on July 19, 2009, 1:37 am
QUOTE(jonest @ Jul 19 2009, 01:21 AM)
Well, I purposely left out the voice plans as every1 should know, postpaid is postpaid and prepaid as it is!!! And the most important thing for an iPhone is "Data" hence I compared oni data plans.... hope u understand what I meant... cheerios.
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@jonest,

Yeah i know what you mean, but i dont think most iphone users will limit their use on the phone to data only as iphone is essentially a phone. I still believe most of us would still want to get the best of both worlds ie data + voice.

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post Jul 19 2009, 05:29 PM

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Hi guys, i have analysed the rates quite thoroughly and i have concluded that the prepaid plan may not be as attractive as it may seem.

First, i am a light phone users who makes very few voice calls. Although i am currently a non maxis user, i have calculated that my monthly call charges under the hotlink prepaid fee structure is around the region of RM 30 per month.

Thus,
iphone 32G (prepaid) + (RM30x12)= RM2990 + RM360 = RM 3350
iphone 32G (ivalue 1) + (RM100 x12) = RM2290 + RM1200= RM RM3490

So, the difference as u can see is RM 3490 - RM 3350 = RM 140= only 4%!!, which isn't particularly attractive when you consider the massive 333 minutes of call minutes that comes with ivalue 1.

What do you think?

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post Jul 19 2009, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(paco @ Jul 19 2009, 10:40 PM)
I think I have the same situation like yours, but as you said you're light phone users, how you going to utilize the 333 minutes? And don't forget one of the big problem with iValue plan is it don't offer any number of SMS in the plan, and will charge RM0.10 per SMS, which is consider very expensive. For my situation, I don't talk much but do text a lot (not sure if it's the same for you or not), it will definitely cost more than RM100 for monthly payment. If prepaid do not offer any free data transfer, then yes, iValue plan is more worth it, but since prepaid offer 500mb monthly data transfer, I will say the comparison is neck to neck, for those prefer talk much, should go for contract, for those text a lot one should go with prepaid.
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@paco,

Yes i agree with you that the comparison is neck to neck. THe fact that ivalue plans do not include free sms is one big weakness but it does allow one to be more liberal in making voice calls. I guess if one still prefers the ivalue plan then they may want to pay extra RM8 for 500 sms to maxis phones each month. But what i want to point out is that prepaid plan isn't as fabulous a plan as it appears to be. The gap between prepaid and ivalue plans is marginal and decreases when one makes more voice calls on a prepaid. But like you say, for those who sends more sms than making calls, prepaid is probably slightly ahead.
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post Jul 21 2009, 12:12 AM

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Anybody knows why maxis doesnt allow port-in customers to sign up for ivalue plan under a 24-month contract?
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post Jul 21 2009, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(johnliew @ Jul 21 2009, 10:37 AM)
No, port in customers (MNP) can only subscribe to the 12 month contract.
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That i know, but what i dont know is why the double standard in disallowing port in customers to sign up for 24 month contract?


Added on July 21, 2009, 12:27 pm
QUOTE(raptar_eric @ Jul 21 2009, 11:59 AM)
acronyx: For prepaid users, after the first 12 months, your prepaid will still be prepaid. It's just like normal prepaid plans, just that you get 500mb for the first 12 months for free, without any contract smile.gif
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@acronyx
Prepaid will stil be prepaid after 12 months but you will no longer be able to enjoy the 500MB free data, and i dont think you can subscribe to idata unless you move to postpaid. Or else it's pay per use under prepaid.

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post Jul 21 2009, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jul 21 2009, 02:17 PM)
The max contract period of 12 months for port in customers is actually an MNP regulation set by the SKMM. It's item 25 in their faq on this page.

http://www.skmm.gov.my/consumer/mnp.asp
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Aiyo..like that i have nothing to say, better not go against the government these days, otherwise i may end up flying off the MACC building..hahahha
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post Jul 21 2009, 08:28 PM

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Ok hypothetically speaking, if a non-maxis user port-in to hotlink prepaid then from there sign up for ivalue plan, will he/she still be considered as a port-in customer hence not allowed to sign up for the 24 month contract?
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post Jul 21 2009, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(wahkiz @ Jul 21 2009, 09:37 PM)
Hey guys, just wondering. Right now I am using subline to my family plan,which is obviously postpaid. Is it advisable to convert it to hotlink for my 3gs? Also, do I have to do it a day before purchase?

Also would like to know is hotlink cheaper for SMS? I SMS quite often, and was told postpaid is not ideal for sms. Thanks!
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You can still carry on with ur family plan but you need to subscribe to one of the idata plans to enable you to purchase the phone at a discounted price. Otherwise you have to buy the phone outright at the retail price. Not sure about the timing of conversion though.

Yes you are right, if u sms a lot you are better off with hotlink as the rates are cheaper.
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post Jul 22 2009, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(doomx @ Jul 22 2009, 04:19 AM)
the iValue plan the 333 minutes free does it mean Maxis-to-Maxis only?
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The free minutes also include calls to any phones ie celcom, digi and even fixed landlines too.
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post Jul 24 2009, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Jul 24 2009, 02:41 AM)
If there anyway that I can sign a 24 months contract if I port-in from Celcom?

I have got an idea, I port in to Maxis postpaid first, then only sign up for Iphone IValue, so I ordering the iphone as a Maxis postpaid user, like this, can get 24 months?
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I am in the same boat as you. Thought about porting-in to hotlink then sign up ivalue as a maxis user. Checked with maxis but they say they will still consider you as a celcom number thus you will only be allowed to sign up for 12 month contract-government regulation they claimed.
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post Jul 24 2009, 03:31 PM

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Can someone verify if the 500MB of data includes both downloading and uploading? or strictly downloading only?
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post Jul 24 2009, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(viosowner @ Jul 24 2009, 04:37 PM)
wao! never know tat!
means if charged per kb, will need to count upload kb also? waaaaaahhhhhhhhh cry.gif
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yalor this is so shit....means if u divide by 2, it means u only get 250MB worth of downloadin la, is that how it is counted ah?
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post Jul 27 2009, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(NXaqua @ Jul 27 2009, 11:21 PM)
Hi friend,

I have similar query and after calling up 123 ( been calling up 2 -3 times this week from complaining to seeking clarification of statement charges ) about my iValue 100,and the comment is :

RM100.00 is monthly commitment,RM50.00 for call charges and the other RM50.00 for internet data.
E.g. My call charges was RM75.00 and in this instances,they give rebate of RM50.00 back to me.
As for data,I have just terminated my RM99.00 Unlimited Data Plan yesterday,but presume it will run similarly like the above.

For sms,I have incurred 750 sms ( guess I must really keep track ) and since I am on RM8.00 plan for first 500 sms foc,therefore the
balance of 250 smses will be chargeable based on 0.10 0r 0.15cts..

Correct me if I am wrong here.Thanks.
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Hang on there, i dont understand what u mean. I thought you pay RM 100 per month and get 333 mins of calls free and 500MB worht of data every month. WHy is there a need to break down 50/50 for calls and data?

If they gve you a RM 50 rebate does that mean you still have to pay the extra RM 25? DOes that mean you will have to pay RM 125?
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post Jul 28 2009, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(elico @ Jul 28 2009, 12:06 AM)
you actually can calculate based on ur current usage

ok let assume that i (heavy SMS user) send 200 SMS to Maxis per month, and 200 SMS to other operator, 15 minutes calls to Maxis, and 15 minutes call to other operator

Value Plus 50 + iData 50 16GB iPhone 3GS 12 months contract: RM2090, saving RM400
iValue 100 16GB iPhone 3GS 12 months contract: RM1990, saving RM500

assuming i do take Value Plus 50 + iData 50:
- Value Plus 50 SMS rate: 5 sen to Maxis, 15 sen to others
  200*0.05 + 200*0.15 = RM40

- call rate 12 sen to Maxis, 18 sen to others
  15*0.12 + 15*0.18 = RM4.5

total use: 40+4.5 = RM44.5, which Value Plus 50 covered

at the end of the month i still paying RM100
but if i were on iValue plan, i still keep my habit of SMS heavily, and i take the RM8 500 SMS package
- SMS Rate: 10 sen
  SMS sent to other operator : 200*0.10 = RM20
  SMS sent to Maxis: RM8 (as below 500 SMS)

- calls 333 minutes included in iValue 100

total payment: 100+8+20 = RM128

at the end of the month i need to pay RM128, with extra RM28 per month, if u doing this for 12 months
12*28 = RM336  <-- rough calculation

u will be paying more RM336 at the of the year, minus out the saving of RM500

500 - 336 = RM164

you only get RM164 saving

as compare to ur RM400 saving on Value Plus, u only able to save RM164 on iValue, IF u an heavy SMS user like me.

of course different user have different cases, this case applies to mine... this is just serve as a reference to u
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Wow...that's a very thorough calculation, welll done elico.
Perhaps i can further summarise by making a direct comparison between the two plans instead...

Addtitional payment of ivalue plan in the above scenario for 12 months = RM28*12= RM336
Savings on the 16 G iphone 3GS = Price of phone bought under ivalue 100 - price of phone bought under idata 50
= 2090 - 1990
= RM 100

Nett saving= Savings on phone - Additional payment of ivalue 100 plan in the above scenario for 12 months
= RM100 - RM336
= -RM236, which means you will end up paying RM 236 more under ivalue 100.

That is also to say the savings u get on the phone is insufficient to cover for the expenses you make on calls and sms etc under ivalue 100.

Hope this helps...
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post Jul 29 2009, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(Elvant @ Jul 29 2009, 06:26 PM)
I feel that the branches not quiet like to entertain the folks who choose hotlink plan maybe becoz they are not get any credit for their sales from 'non-planner'. Thats why they want to charge me a 2% on Credit card payment (extra RM45.8 for 16GB 3GS) vmad.gif
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What????THey gonna charge u 2% extra on credit card payment just because you are buying outright? WHere is this place??
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post Jul 31 2009, 04:33 PM

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Revised ivalue plans out now...free sms and mms, check maxis website
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post Jul 31 2009, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(ah1 @ Jul 31 2009, 04:40 PM)
lolz, just called maxis customer service regarding the new rate plan..

he said if u exceed any of the FREE Limit (Only applicable for Maxis to Maxis.) , it will be charge..

for example with value plan 1and  u exceed few min call, tat few min call will be charge + RM 100.

regarding the family line free call and sms, i am still enquiry from them. Even the operator also get shock when the maxis website updated lol..
i will show here later for what i know, please wait
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please explain what u ean by exceed few min call? u get 333 mins free that;'s all right and u will get charged for exceeding it isnt it?
and the sms is only free between maxis to maxis ah?


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