hi all master, allow me to ask stupid question.. I am intersted to get 1 bold but i dont want to sign up those contract with maxis/celcom/digi.. can i still use my "push" fuction ? (I have edge/3g)

there is a lot of function that comes with blackberry require you to have BIS/BES Subscription, especially the push mail

ooo becoz i plan to buy 1 in digital mall, phone only then i use my digi edge to access my facebook, gmail, yahoo mail, msn, live mail. .... so in this case, the "push" wont work ?? i have to sync all the time ?

Hmmmm I dont think you are able to use facebook / msn without BIS / BES ...

You are able to sync mails by using 3rd party software connected to wifi I think ....

I think if you want to gmail / facebook / yahoo / msn without BIS / BES ... I would recommend iPhone le

can someone pls confirm?

can i just use normal wifi or edge to login to emails or facebook? or can i must have BIS/BES?

for internet access you do not have to have BIS/BES subscription - you can access thru wifi or any data plan you have. 'on-the-go/push mail' function requires BIS/BES (ie RIM server access); tho, some users use third party software for the function ('push mail') n says it worked for them. cheers!

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Added on July 10, 2009, 10:43 amthe 'true' 'push' function can only be had with BIS/BES subscription (RIM server access). however some users use third party software for something similar, but in true form is a 'pull' function. perhaps the link below might give u some idea:-
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1021228&hl=

cheers!

This post has been edited by 7thsky: Jul 10 2009, 10:43 AM

but basically, to dl new software i first need BIS/BES to begin with, yes?

To download new software, you can download it using your wifi ... no need BIS / BES ...

Anywayz BIS cheapest rate is only RM40 ... trust me ... its worth paying

i still don't understand the benefits of BIS

when u say worth paying rM40, why is that so?

To use a Blackberry without at least the BIS service is like having a horse driven coach without the horse. You just sit there looking pretty in the coach but you'd be going nowhere. The BIS is the data service which the Blackberry is built to use.

First of all, your PUSH email will not work because without the BIS service, you cannot connect back to RIM's servers. It is the RIM's servers that does the pulling of mails from your email (gmail/personal/work except Exchange which you then use BES) and then pushing it to your Blackberry.

Secondly, some application is built to only use BIS as the data connection, therefore will not work if you don't have BIS.

No BIS = No MSN / No BB IM / No Push Email / No Internet Conenction when you do not have Wifi around / No Viigo (RSS Feeds)

BB Without BIS = limitations ...

anyway when u have it then u will know le ...

I was also like that before. I thought I can be ok without BIS. I can still check email and facebook using browser if I just subscribe to data plan.

But after subscribing BIS, its a whole lot more exciting. I can use Facebook for Blackberry where I get updates instantly and reading email in BIS is more easier and fun.

can someone help me, how am i going to subscribe to bis?

choose your preferred service provider celcom or maxis, bring your documentations, go to their center n ask to subcribe for that servive (BIS). you nee to decide what data amount/plan you want, they should guide you for the rest. for some info before u go, try these links:
http://www.maxis.com.my/personal/blackberry/packages.asp
http://www.celcom.com.my/cep/

cheers!