AWESOME match lar..
WOOHOO... well worht my money..
got good view sumore...
damn syiok...
went in expecting Msian team get trashing but they played real well and gave a good fight.
was hoping yahya to do a hattrick by the end of it.

im definitely goin to the rematch. hope its more of the same, altho ferguson wouldve enough time to size up the players by then and restrategise.

im gonna go cari where got sell msian jersery for tomoro

who cares man, those things are those things..
its the players that makes up the game.
if the players are good, we gonna get quality games.
im actually not such an ardent fan of local footy, dont even know players. actually knew the man u players more yesterday, but i ended up supporting the national team. coz some of the players played well and very well. have to say i feel a bit proud at the way they played.
at the end of it, united were going all out it seemed to score their winning goal, and it was brilliant to watch the quality on show.

so gona try to find and buy national jersey.
oh yeah, the point was, they got themselves a new supporter
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anyways move on a bit.. i was half expecting people to talk about strategy at this thread

This post has been edited by sshahar9: Jul 19 2009, 03:11 PM

yes it was..
i will say this about the current national squad though,
they are BRAVE. they have a different mindset now, maybe thanks to rajagobal. they attack and they go for gold, gunning for glory, take no prisoners attitude.
even the guy that 'bolot' the ball to himself, coz he wanted to score himself so badly.

this current team got guts. mebe im wrong but from my own personal perception teams of old were a bit more hesitant, unsure and not daring enough.
so kudos to this team, in the end everyone had a good time last night.
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so if everyone wants to talk a bit bout something else, how bout we throw ideas what the strategy tomorrow will be like?

how do you see ferguson changing the tactics?

whos going to be guarding amri etc, how many?
the two malaysian players on the right side of the field a lot of times could not run as fast as the man u players that were there, who should be replaced? starting lineup prediction?

etc etc.. come on, bring some healthy discussion

its easy to blame and finds scapegoats...
but myself personally, i just get the impression if the player is good enough, then he will go far.
some old brazilian players that came from slums or poor backgrounds that played on the streets etc, they grew up to be amazing players.
practiced all da way.

im saying talent can be born and natural or it can be developed and honed.
i just say talent is key, all the other things are business. perhaps its how the players train themselves and from young etc can make a difference. does it cost the players money to kick the same ball and practice?
just go to a field and practice. get better etc etc.
if the quality no good how to go far.... even in the off chance a great player is there but is unable to raise everyone elses level up.

anyways im not an expert and wont claim as such, just stating my observations. i never believed if you just throw money in a lot and expect it to miraculously change the quality for the better. money may not be the ultimate determining factor. it may not even be a sole factor. who knows, but from where i stand, practice makes perfect.

want to complain bout msian footy, then complain in a proper thread. this getting off topic.

i dont know the state of msian footy so wont presume like i know d answer.
just sayin, if a star player like ronaldinho, ronaldo changed teams, theyd still be star players.
alex ferguson if he took over msian xi squad, think can be epl champions quality (hypothetically)?

maybe the players need to be trained from young to get better. emulate the best. there may be a whole bunch of factors or ways but this could be one of them.

in regards some were selected by political parties, i dont really know. mebe the fans and players themselves know if they deserve to be there. in whatever the case may be, they all have to get better. create some star players and by that i mean quality.

in regards to sticking to one coach, sure why not if he gets the job done and is producing results.
ferguson is still at man u for how many years now?

This post has been edited by sshahar9: Jul 19 2009, 04:30 PM

GLORY GLORY MALAYSIAAAAaaAA,
GLORY GLORY MALAYSIAAAAaaAA,,
Tooonight I go Staaadiuum,
& See Yahyah score more GOALS GOALS GOALS.

LoL

Woohoo

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Added on July 20, 2009, 4:04 pmleaving in 30 minutes btw,
can anyone recommend where is vantage point if at green gate?
2nd tier which side etc?

This post has been edited by sshahar9: Jul 20 2009, 04:04 PM

so close yet so far...
had a few good chances last night... i was severely disappointed msia didnt score any goals..
had a few good tries..
but the Msian keeper daaamn good. kept his cool most of the time if not all.

the thing about the Msian team i noticed is that starting seems the same.. a bit slow to get into rhythm or to move fast.. after the 2 goals by man u, then the msian come alive.. or abit more...
could see man utd really pulling off some classy moves and all which shows they really were trying to score and all. so a good effort by the Msian team nonetheless.

an area to improve is the finishing.. they must learn to handle pressure when attacking or trying to score.. everyone else always fumbles but amri yahyah was too tired i guess from the game on saturday.

another point they should try to go the distance.. full 90 mins..

anyhow.. there is still hope for Msian team, they can still improve on the visible weaknesses.

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Added on July 22, 2009, 12:14 ami dont think so... there were quite a few very good attempts on both sides after the first 20 mins..
msian only came alive after that.. slow starters a bit..

also fletcher suka main kotor.. trying to pick fights with almost everyone..

heck.. rooney also go tackle some player until terpelanting damn jauh.. i was far and see the guy fly that far.. wah that poor dude must sure more sakit one.. fly so damn far...

live is still da best.. worht the money altho disappointed a bit

but yeah... saturday match more fun to watch coz got 2 goals for msia

This post has been edited by sshahar9: Jul 22 2009, 12:14 AM

i was there.. i wouldnt call their performance shit. if u cant play as well or better than the msian team, then calling it shit is kinda ignorantly stupid.

both sides tried to fake a few injuries or falls to be fair.

to the argument of performance, which is it? were man u playing like testing or were some of them also tired after 2 quick games? hence the defender also slow to move.. cant say both otherwise ur just biased.
and the msian defenders really did well, there were quite a few legit good passing and goal attempts by man u that the keeper saved, not to mention the shots that were off target a bit.
i would say they really did try..
but perhaps what was on the back of man u players minds were to be careful... since some people say the referee was a bit strict to penalize any rough or foul play..

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Added on July 22, 2009, 3:21 pmcould be true, i wouldnt know. if thats the case, train harder etc, do whats needed.. its not like they cant improve.

This post has been edited by sshahar9: Jul 22 2009, 03:21 PM

haha.. dayum...
i was hoping they would show the match on saturday but replayed the one on monday instead.
a bit bummed coz this one no goal by msia... but in the end its still fun to watch.
guess it proved the detractors wrong, the 2nd half really came alive with real legit attempts by both sides..
msia just slow starters.. if they played as well as in the end, the first 2 probly might not have happened...
all in all... yes its a mentality thing.. they need to have the confidence to know they can play quality football and deliver. a very good effort nonetheless and thoroughly enjoyable match to watch.
especially when the big gunners from man u displayed awesome skills and fancy footwork.

the only bum thing was shebbys shitty remark before the game.. then tried to save him face among locals by going 180degrees..

anyhow.. ill be sure to support msia for laos in december

condemning sure doesnt help either.......
anyways, after seeing MU trash the club from china and liverpool trashing singapore, id say our boys gave a good fight.
yes, south korea does seem to play better than us so if the scorecards the same, id say theres still hope for our team.

Go Malaysia

nah i dont think so..
in the 2nd game, united clearly could have scored tons more goals if our defenders didnt save the day including the awesome keeper.
that and also the couple or few good attempts in the last minutes by both parties sure made it top notch.
id think anyone would be biased to think otherwise.

hmm the easiest answer would be of 2 possibilities;
1. the current team is stagnant or improving slightly while the rest of the world improved a lot more.
2. the team is regressing and the world is stagnant or improvng.

i wouldnt say quality regressed, id say it improved compared to the past (altho admiteedly i dont follow local footy), so just going from what i remember here.
and the world has been getting better. in almost every terms.
training etc.
think we need to define those areas so we can set a target to be level with the rest of the world, or level with the best.

where to begin?