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 Hedgehog Corner V6, I LIKE to be left ALONE

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livingmonolith
post Jul 8 2009, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Jul 7 2009, 11:39 AM)
cry.gif I'm so sad.....
Mika passed away last night...
I have no idea what is wrong as well...
i just took her to see Dr Jenny on the 27th Last month.
n yesterday when i got home at 10...she already dead...
died in her sleep
sleeping peacefully...
i'm so sad...
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sorry to hear that. dr jenny didn't have anything to say at all about the quills shedding?

how old is mika?
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post Jul 13 2009, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(petplayground @ Jul 13 2009, 09:48 AM)
my hedgiehog keep losing quills. what wrong? it is quilling or mites?
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QUOTE(Carmein @ Jul 13 2009, 11:10 AM)
My hedgehog is shedding its quills.
Not sure if there;s mites or quilling.
He is 4 months old.
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if the hedgehog is below 6 months of age, that's quilling. the hedgehog is replacing its baby quills with adult ones, if you pick your hedgehog up and look closely you'll find the quills are a little uneven with some longer ones poking out. this will continue until the age of 6-7 months when all the baby quills are replaced with adult quills.

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post Jul 15 2009, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(meiixiin @ Jul 15 2009, 03:11 PM)
blink.gif  How come got albino hoglet?
Theirs father is albino?
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Jul 15 2009, 06:28 PM)
nope, father is S&P-Spiky
Cos Bubble's father is Albino-Chidori
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the beauty of hedgehog breeding. smile.gif

i take pleasure in experimenting hedgehog colour inheritance, and it's one of the main reasons for me to breed hedgehogs. you'll always spot some surprises in the litter of hoglets. smile.gif
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post Jul 23 2009, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(mic_tcs @ Jul 23 2009, 07:01 PM)
So.. Is between albino and white colour category, which one consider the rare breed??
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if you know the lineage of the parent hedgehogs, then you'll realize that the colours can be breeded and none are rare. hedgehog colours are inherited, and there are dominant and recessive genes like humans do.

if the male is a pure S&P and the female albino, the offsprings will all be S&Ps or snowflake (the white you mentioned).

if both parents are of mixed (eg. male is S&P with S&P and albino parents, female is S&P with S&P and albino parents), then you may get offsprings with colours ranging from S&P, snowflake and albino, with higher chances of S&Ps being born.

snowflakes are the results from a coloured one mated with an albino. like when you breed between a cinnamon and apricot, they may produce offsprings with 'cinnicot' colour.

but do note that colour breeding is still something that many are researching right now because hedgehogs are only domesticated for about a decade or so, so the colour inheritance may not work exactly like, say human's blood type of A, B, AB, and O. Mainly because there's too many colours and too many combinations, and human have yet to study this extensively to prove the exact process of colour inheritance in hedgehogs.
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post Jul 24 2009, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Jul 24 2009, 05:17 PM)
Em does anyone here breeding mealworm or keep alive? ( acutally I don't know need to post where to ask.... biggrin.gif )
Just want to ask how did you guys giving water for mealworm?
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you don't. smile.gif

i don't breed mealworms but you can keep them alive for a long time by gutloading them with oat. and keep them away from water. i think there was a thread on this before, or discussed somewhere in the previous hedgehog thread.
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post Jul 24 2009, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Jul 24 2009, 05:37 PM)
But did they no need water for survive? I feel like less apply water to them and look like quite easy to die.....
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i've kept my mealworms alive for over 4 months without a single drop of water, so i believe it's okay. they'll look active and aggresive if you constantly add oat, good source of energy for them. smile.gif
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post Jul 25 2009, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(siggplus @ Jul 25 2009, 02:13 PM)
her tummy is big now, she eats more, but she is not preparing a nest..i already separates them 2 weeks ago

i am going to breed them, just that im not sure if she's pregnant..i already got enough info on breeding, except determining if the female is pregnant..

are all pregnant hedgies goes more aggressive when pregnant compared to not pregnant?
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if you have not been feeding a regular portion daily and didn't monitor the weight gain, then the only option you have is leave it alone and wait until the expected delivery date has passed. although they mentioned it can be as long as 49 days, normally hedgehogs give birth after about 30-35 days after a successful mating.

first time moms will tend to be more aggresive, but that is a subjective description as some hedgehogs are generally aggresive by nature.

also, if this is the first time you try to mate your hedgehogs, there are always chances that the breeding is unsuccessful as your hedgehogs may not really 'know' exactly the reason why they're housed together with the opposite gender.


Added on July 25, 2009, 5:33 pm
QUOTE(mic_tcs @ Jul 25 2009, 03:25 PM)
There are several king of RC in market, how to determine which one to buy for hedgie?? Is it dependant on the age of the hedgie?
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in general people would recommend fit32 as the diet content is the closest to a hedgehog's diet. many also start with kitten34 as the kibble are smaller and easier to consume, but do note that kitten34 has a higher fat content and even from the texture you can see that the kibbles are somewhat quite oily.

there is only one specific brand of hedgehog food available in the market in malaysia, you may check it out to figure out hedgehog's best diet in percentage.

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post Aug 2 2009, 01:58 PM

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actually, it looks more like champagne. it's different from eric's, although it may also be a snowflake but it's hard to see unless there's a close-up photo of the quills.

snowflake is not a colour, it's considered a derivation from the standard colours. we call them snowflakes when the number of white quills is high in percentage. snowflakes occur in every colour.

and while we're talking colours, the hedgehogs we find locally are mostly algerians, S&P is a common term for hedgehogs we see here, but we can also term them with colours between algerian dark grey, grey and chocolate, although it's a bit hard to categorize since there aren't any experts around.
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post Aug 5 2009, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(eric138 @ Aug 5 2009, 05:19 PM)
huh...got 1kilo RC36 meh?  I tot only got 400g, 2kg, 4kg...
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that's what i thought as well about the packaging sizes.

anyway, depending on how 'luxurious' one want it to be, actually the start-up cost won't have to be so high if you know where to save.

hideboxes can DIY, cage can use toyogo boxes, fleece is a one-off purchase, bedding and food can be cheaper if you purchase in big number.

wheels, if you're as creative as some members, they actually DIY. wink.gif if you're not so creative, then maybe can purchase 2nd hand items like me.


Added on August 5, 2009, 5:33 pm
QUOTE(pink_baby @ Aug 5 2009, 05:19 PM)
but they not like sugar gliders can climb on ur body right??so their main diet just cat kibbles??do they easily fall sick?
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definitely won't be climbing around, in fact they'd rather you leave them alone in the dark and let them come out to play themselves at night.

cat kibbles that're mentioned are the closest diet to hedgehog, although we do have hedgehog diets in the market nowadays. some owners also feed boiled egg white and chicken meat as well. occasional mealworms as treats.

rarely you'll find a hedgehog fall sick out of nowhere, unless they inherited diseases from parents such as wobbly leg syndrome. apart from that, the more usual situation you may encounter is that them injuring themselves due to their clumsiness (fall off wheels, climbing and tumbling around, etc).

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post Aug 7 2009, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Aug 6 2009, 09:07 PM)
@lawrence
maybe u can post more picture of ur hedgie....

anyway for those senior member here, do u still remember one forummer who found a hedgehog in front of his house a few years back ?

its not african pygmy hedgehog like ours but more towards european hedgehog... was wondering wat happen to it.
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he released it back to the wild.

just in case if you haven't read the follow up stories, the forumer is living in new zealand (or somewhere), where wild hedgehogs always get stuck in residential area's piping and stuff. so that's pretty common there.


Added on August 7, 2009, 6:11 pm
QUOTE(mic_tcs @ Aug 7 2009, 09:36 AM)
Are we suppose to handle hedgie that young??
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normally people will advise the earliest contact with the hoglets is approx 2 weeks from date of birth, or to put it safe, when the hoglets have their eyes opened.

it also depends on how the mother behaves, some are calmer and will allow you to have a look at the hoglets even after a week, as long as you keep your hands off them. advisable to move the hoglets using only clean spoons before the age of two weeks (if it's really necessary for you to move them).

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Aug 7 2009, 07:15 PM)
In 2007 I bred my hedgehogs before, and it was the last time I bred them since the female is not a good mom. She only birth to 3 hoglets but 1 died during birth so the mom ate it. Then once the hoglets were a week old she started to attack her hoglets by chewing on their heads. Now I didn't touch any of the young or her bedding, just top up food and water. Because I was desperate to safe the hoglets, I rescued what was remaining.... 1 hoglet. The other had its head eaten by the mom.
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i remember this hoglet, i think you've posted the photos before in the thread V3 or V4. didn't realize that she's the one you handfed.

people assume it's easy to breed hedgehogs, but are rarely prepared to handle abnormal situations because few mentioned their experiences where things went horribly wrong and there's no guide for them when unfortunate incidents happen.
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post Aug 7 2009, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Lawrence93 @ Aug 7 2009, 08:54 PM)
amazing story man xD well its very generous of u to giv ur heart away to a new owner xD well , i still have a question , can u tell me why is my hedgehog's nose is pinkish ? and others are black
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yours is either a cinnamon or champagne.

can't tell without a picture of the whole hedgehog.
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post Aug 7 2009, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Lawrence93 @ Aug 7 2009, 09:17 PM)
okay monolith i apologize for no picture shown , i will show it tomorow xD well im juz worried xD cause its ear was bitten off by thier sisters and brothers also i think cause the owner place them all together , well is normal for them to chew ears right when young ..
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no problem, i'm curious to see how your hedgehog would look like as well without the ears.

yes, fighting among siblings is very normal, which is why breeders should have enough space to keep the hoglets apart when they're old enough to be left alone. while i've seen few adult hedgehogs being housed together (usually in petstores), there's always a chance of injuries if they're kept in the same enclosure.
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QUOTE(iris5220 @ Aug 15 2009, 06:53 PM)
i dunno spin o quill.. for me i just know the fur that pokes me behind her back keep losing. I really dunno how old are her because when i wan buy her, she haven't open eye so i waited 2 week only bring her home but i confirm that when i bring her home She just open her eye a week so only .before i bring her home she is stay with her mum. The person that sell it to me didn't say anything when i ask him whether she can eat by her own yet and izit safe for her to leave mum. He just say no problem no problem and let me bring it away.

I will make sure i wont bath her anymore for her safety. I dont hope that my mistake will kill her.

How can i know that my hedgehog is sick , stress and unhappy?

doh.gif i really dunno wat to do to make sure she is safe n healthy!!!!! cry.gif
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hoglets open their eyes in about 3 weeks old, so if you got it about a week after that that means it's about a month old only. naturally at this age it will still require mother's milk because it is not ready to consume solid food yet. normally breeders will inform you to collect hoglets earliest at 6 weeks old or when they already started eating solid kibbles. to be safe usually it's 8 weeks before we normally part the hoglet with its mother.
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post Aug 24 2009, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Carmein @ Aug 24 2009, 11:42 AM)

I would like to ask about the difference between Silent Spinner 12" and Silent Wheel 30cm. Both look really similar to me.

Eric, are you using the Silent Spinner 12"?
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isn't both the same? only difference is the inch and cm measurement, which is the same size btw.

some complained that the silent wheel tends to fall down if the hedgehog's running too fast, but so far i've never experienced such incidents.
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post Aug 26 2009, 04:20 PM

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there's no pinto in malaysia, not to be mistaken with snowflake colours.

i remember a year or more ago max has posted before that he enquired about bringing in pintos from US or somewhere, but that will cost over 1k. the conversations about this was a bit too distant and i can barely remember the details mentioned by the posters back then.
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QUOTE(abesabraham @ Sep 1 2009, 08:35 PM)
Do youu think this should suffice for a month old hoglet? Of course i'll be sure to upgrade when it gets bigger. smile.gif
And do you think that the ventilation would be good enough? If not I'll cut the top off and glue it down with wire mesh.
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for ventilation should be fine, but i think you'd probably have to be concerned if it's going to be a bit too suffocating for the hedgehog itself, considering that it will definitely pee and poo in the box.
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QUOTE(abesabraham @ Sep 2 2009, 01:34 PM)
Eh actually is 2 months. heh. typo.
Suffocating, and by that do you mean the fleece/towel? Should I remove it? Cause the bedding issue is really  rclxub.gif

Or should i just cut the top off... and glue it with a wire mesh.


Added on September 2, 2009, 1:38 pmThe box measurement is like...
okie measured the box.

it is

65 cm long, 35 cm wide, and 32 cm high.

its pretty big. I think the camera made it look weird.
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at 32cm high, i think it's adequate for you to leave the top open 24/7 and won't have to be worried that it'll escape.

what i meant was although there will be air circulation, the smell produced from the faeces will remain trapped in the box and it'll create an unhygienic condition for your hedgehog. also, should the faeces remain uncleared for several days, you'll probably find the box a bit humid as well from heat emission.

and eric's right, the enclosure now may be appropriate for the time being, but if you are going to include a wheel anytime in the near future that will be a little small for your hedgehog once it reaches adulthood.

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post Sep 3 2009, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(abesabraham @ Sep 2 2009, 09:22 PM)
haha okok. googling and some said it was like toothpaste.
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harder version of toothpaste.

anyway, good to know that you're prepared for it, at least there's one less thing to worry about.

some owners manage to toilet-train their hedgehogs, it's hard but not impossible. but i think it's safe to say that once the hedgehog realize where is its sleeping area they'll keep that portion in enclosure clean from faeces.

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QUOTE(abesabraham @ Sep 5 2009, 02:26 PM)
Hi everyone

Meet No name yet. I haven't thought of a name yet cause nothing seems good enough :\
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And her blankie.

She's been settling down, eating well. Sometimes I hand feed her and I managed to sneak in a mealworm disguised as a kibble.

Trying her to get more into insects. Since they are insectivores in the first place :3
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good to see her settling down well, she's the most hyperactive of the lot of hedgehogs i have at home. wink.gif

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