Any character also can play well with no lag or spikes

@poyol

My advice to you is to learn a characters basic links and combos. Then learning what moves are best to spam or to hit your opponents. All these info can always be helpful after some trial and errors.

Some basic things might help;

1. Thunder Knuckle LP/MP is good after a Normal Link, example c.MP/c.MK/c.HP. try not to spam in a far distance as people can counter you.

2. EX Seismic Hammer (dp+PP) has invincible properties on start up and opponents need to block down from it.

3. Fire kick Move can cross up on people (Looking at Chucky, "Yes You!!" ) but this needs some practice to master as u need to execute it almost immediately after jumping. Utilising the Super Jump helps in this.

Hope that can give you a rough idea of using him.

@nistelrooy_sam

Welcome to the community, feel free to add everyone who is active in this thread. Minus Zangief83 and onikari cause their on different consoles

@Zangief82

Whoops, sorry dude Nevermind la, 1 year younger can always get the ladies also

Onikari just said his Xbox360 kena 2 RROD

@poyol

The EX-Thunder Knuckle, err I myself dun really use it I did play with 1 fella from Singapore that uses it. Invisible properties, maybe a little when people try to jump in on ya. Recovery to me seems to be rather fair, couldn't retaliate after block from the ground. I got hit by an Ultra after it once when I tried to hit back after it. Which equals to using EX Seismic also can. So I think its recovery is ok.

An advance strategy you could learn is canceling Vipers moves (Press PP after Seismic or Thunder). Can bring up some serious mind games when done corectly. Examples;

1.Cancel moves from far to bait jumps and counter with HP Thunder Knuckle.
2.Cancel moves mid pressure to increase even more pressure strings.
3.Cancel moves for longer comboes but not really that advisable for new users.

There is something I always wanted to know but couldn't get any info for it, canceling a Seismic Hammer to forward/back dash without using any meter bars. Anyone can share on it?

EDIT: Forgot to mention, Happy Birthday Hatred__

This post has been edited by Phyurix: Sep 18 2009, 01:30 PM

Cancelling Super Jump to Front/Back Dash, I did think it was done that way but couldn't execute it. Need find youtube videos on it

Its just Vipers gameplay using her Seismic Hammer. Normally you could cancel it with Super Jump (down, up motion) but if done quick enough you can cancel Seismic Hammer into a move (or front/back dash if found a way). You could test this out for yourself.

Seismic Hammer - Super Jump - MP Thunder Knuckle

If you do it only after the Seismic Hammers animation, Thunder Knuckle won't hit.

If you do the Thunder Knuckle in a Tiger Knee Motion (QCF,UB+MP) in the middle of Seismic hammer's animation, it will cancel and Thunder Knuckle will hit. But you won't see the Super Jumps animation. A small tip to execute is, after Seismic Hammer, leave your stick/direction pad in neutral then only start doing the command.

Just to share for everyone, Tiger Knee Motion is including the up direction (wether it be back, straight or front) into a move/skill. As last time in SF2 (if you didn't know), Sagats Tiger Knee was executed (down,down-front,front,up-front). Hence the name. This motion is not entirely usable for every cast in SF4, only for Viper. Only games I know that utilise this fully is Guilty Gear Series and BlazBlue

I stand corrected

Dhalsim for instant air teleports, Cammy for instant air Cannon strike, Gouki/Akuma for instant air fireballz. All using Tiger Knee Motion.

Still doesn't beat GG series & Blazblue cause usually all the cast can use that motion for the systems mechanics

the super jump cancel yes, but doing front/back dash after super jump cancel is a mystery to me

This post has been edited by Phyurix: Sep 18 2009, 04:07 PM

Never too old for gaming dude, look at Alex Valle

That is one hell of a comeback, never was expecting such an ending.

If Maida absorbed 1 hit and dashed forward, I may think of a way but seeing what he did was totally out of my imagination. He might have made the FA attack canceled, some experimenting is needed on this. I don't see it possible that FA animation is cancelable with a move. It could be that he made a dash command before the Ultra so we couldn't see the dash animation.

I dun think thats what he did la dude, looking at the vid no super bars was used when absorbing the hit and balrog was flashing white not yellow. But you got a good idea there. Didn't know also his EX Moves can be kara-ed into Ultras. Although I'm no balrog player, am still curious how its done.

Hmm, this is totally new to me. Which means if the Ultra wasn't executed, then the super bar will go down? Once kara-ed to Ultra the super bar will remain?

Yea man, thank goodness the connections great so far. Its really been a while we had a long session like today 1st few games I saw you being really rusty la. links all miss hopefully with better connection in the future we'll have more sessions

Keen2keen: Sorry bro, busy playing tristan and I didnt plug my keyboard. Couldn't reply your msg

Sorry la dude, didn't plug my keyboard coz someone using my pc. Lazy to write msg using the DS3 Next time we'll have a few rounds

I'm still on holiday, but scared to come back to work >.<

I have this feeling hell's gonna break loose in the office

If there is a job like that, I'd love to apply and go full force

I think we discussed this previously, but anyways. Hold Kick buttons after the Ultra will make Balrog do an uppercut. Tthere are 2 ways to connect the Ultra's full hits. 2 Straight Punches to 2 Uppercuts (PPKK) or Upper, Straight, Upper, Upper (KPKK). Some characters can hit by both or either one so just experiment on it. Oh and the 2nd punch which is the straight will whiff, so thats normal. Will connect again on the 3rd punch with is the uppercut

I think theres some of u guys i have on my PSN list, but never played with u all yet