SeaGates,

<<I was discussing about AI and since you do not care I don't think you should be discussing anything about it, no?>>

You as in all other SCIENTIST type is trying to create AI in an image of HUMAN BEING.  But, why??

There are MORE THAN one way to view and define INTELLIGENCE.

From Engineers' point of view, as long as something FUNCTION intelligently, we do not care whether it use the same method as human being.

<<AI system can't be selective in what it absorb;>>

Who say so?? Human being IGNORE things and event all the times.  That is ONE of the greatest sign of intelligence.  Knowing what is important.

<<I gave example when I said wheels, now tell me, is running on 2 legs faster than 2 wheels if you were tasked to move through every single city of Europe?>>

If you are SUPERMAN, it won't matter.

Dreamer

lin00b,

From a SCIENTIST POV, it is interesting to argue and define what TRUE AI is.

But, for an ENGINEER POV, FAKE AI or not close to 100% AI might be more useful.

For example, we may not be doing a TRUE 100% HUMAN EQUIVALENT robot.  But, replacement mechanical heart is keeping many people alive.

So, the QUESTION is

A) Is it MORE POWERFUL and FUNCTIONAL to create 100% TRUE AI??

Or

B) Create something that work along human beings that EXPAND and AMPLIFIES human processing and thinking power??

The same question is posed on the robotic side too.  Bionic arms and legs and so on...

SCIENTIST like to argue and debate until the hell freeze over.

Engineer tend to ask what give us BEST FUNCTION and PERFORMANCE with the technology that we have now.

I just want a robot to wash my floor.  And, I am still waiting....

Dreamer

SeaGates,

<< Yes you're right and you're just bringing back all my points that artificial intelligence is different from human intelligence(I already said something along that line in my 1st(2nd in thread) post).

Human being IGNORE things and event, but can an AI system do that, give enough confusing/clashing input to an AI system and it'll crash. >>

You are using HUMAN INTELLIGENCE view point to judge AI.  Is that the RIGHT WAY to do it??

Human has PROCESSING POWER running at low speed at much less than 1KHz.  Computer is running at above 1GHz aka 1 million times faster.  Human is good at ignore things and focus on key stuff.  Computer is good at look at and processing multiple things very very fast.  Those are just the basic differences.

So, if we want to use computer to function INTELLIGENTLY, we would not let computer work the same way as human.  Aka emulating human being.

Are we going about the WRONG WAY to begin with?? Aka, this is NOT the best way to approach computer based INTELLIGENCE.  We need to think outside the box of HUMAN INTELLIGENCE.

This has been going for 20+ years.  And, we have seen very little break through in this area.  We might be going the wrong way all this times.

I do not have the RIGHT answer.  Intuitively, I feel that computer based intelligence is SUBSTANTIALLY different from any kind of human based intelligence in term of processing.

Dreamer

lin00b,

It is ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.  It is NOT ARTIFICIAL HUMAN INTELLIGENCE.  So, it does not have to emulate HUMAN INTELLIGENCE.  So, some people are studying INSECT INTELLIGENCE and try to emulate that.

Dreamer