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post Jun 29 2009, 01:55 PM, updated 17y ago

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Anyone here bought or ever listen to the SVSound speakers. I am looking at the M series but they are really expensive. Even the MBS-01 bookshelve cost almost USD1000 = RM3500 and including shipping can be anywhere RM5000. That is like RM2500 per bookshelve speaker!!!
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post Jun 29 2009, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 29 2009, 02:23 PM)
As far as I knew it got a very good review from Sound and Vision mag. I have the actual copy.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/speakers/...ker-system.html
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But actually buying a pair of bookshelve speakers for RM5000 is a big risk! What if it turns out not to our liking.
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post Jun 29 2009, 04:54 PM

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I found this thread that have the best shoot out between the SVS and many other speakers.

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After reading it, say bye bye to svs. It seems like everyone recommended the Ascend Seirra speakers in the same price range....another online speaker company. If you haven't read the link go now...wide range of speakers being compared there.

looks like Dynaaudio is a fantastic speakers but the price is wow...
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post Jun 29 2009, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Jun 29 2009, 04:58 PM)
Funny you guys just bring out this thread. Been researching for ID speaker and shortlisted few brands, SVS MTS-01, Axiom M80v2, Emotiva ERT8.3 and Songtower QWT. After much reading pass few weeks, SVS is out of the picture. Emotiva not much review and most of the review is by fanboy and I feel it's overhype. Axiom M80 seems like good value for the price but I'm looking at speaker which is better then B&W 700 series. After much research, looks like Salk songtower QWT is a great speaker at around USD 1700. It's a much better speaker compare to Sierra 1 according to some of the shootout. Sierra 1 is a USD 800 speaker so it's not a fair fight. Just shoot an email to salk to enquire total cost for this speaker. Also there is an option to upgrade the tweeter to Ribbon tweeter for another extra USD 700.
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Its really not fair to compare the song tower to the Seirra 1 as the size and price are from 2 different category. In the end , the price is going to be a big factor as there is no end to how much one can spend on these things.

But from the shoot out, everyone is so surprise how good the Seirra sound.

Ever try out DynaAudio?
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post Jun 29 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 29 2009, 05:38 PM)
I ve auditioned Dynaudio years ago at CMY in Sumway Pyramid. It's performance indeed out of my expectation (so as the price). Since I cldn't afford it, I have to look for cheaper alternatives.
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yah...USD2500 for a pair of bookshelve. Don't dare to touch!
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post Jun 30 2009, 11:07 AM

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Anyone heard of Ascend Sierra-1? Looks like a superb speakers under USD1000

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post Jun 30 2009, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jun 30 2009, 11:34 AM)
Apparently SVS has re-voiced & re-designed their speakers as a result of the feedback and reviews on the forums last year. In their MTS-01 page it says:

It's rare, but we left a lot of sonic performance and durability enhancements on the table with the launch of these mid-priced speakers early last year. No longer. Now shipping, the redesigned speakers took good, to truly great. The result of costly new new audiophile-grade, crossovers. The results of the new "voicing" has been amazing

But don't know how the new version sounds compared to the old one.

The Ascend Sierra-1 has got a lot of positive reviews. At USD898 for the piano black finish they are quite pricey. Incl shipping and tax, by the time it gets here would be around 4.7k - 5k. Then some more have to add a few hundred to buy nice stands.

In that price range there are a lot of floorstanders you can audition locally.
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I fully agreed with you. There are lots of floorstanders that is much cheaper but a lot of them are cheap for a reason. I have been doing a lot of reading last night and this little thing seems to be on the ranks with Dynaudio. It is highly regarded monitor speakers in the audiophile world (in US) which according to many pro sounds better then many more expensive floorstanders and speakers.

I'm very new when it comes to audiophile grade speakers so I still have a lot to learn.
Anyone familiar with Enjoy the Music.com? The Sierra won the Best Of 2008 Blue Note Equipment Awards. I wonder what is that.
Here is the link and scrow all the way down to read about it.
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post Jun 30 2009, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Jun 30 2009, 12:38 PM)
When choosing speaker, we have to be realistic. You need to set the price range and research which speaker fall within range and their characteristic too. Doesn't mean one type of speaker will fit everyone needs. Some people like very dynamic speaker with good bottom (those people normally like rock, action movie etc), some people put lot of emphasize in mid-range (vocal) etc. So it all depends on personal taste. If you are a first timer in audiophile grade speaker, you will be surprised that the first time you will feel it's dull. This is due to the distortion that you had used to with cheap speaker which normally put emphasize on Bass and upper treble. You feel the zing and boom but nothing in the mid. When clarity open up, soundstage widen you will start to appreciate what's a true music like.

My current research for tower point me into 2 direction: AV123 Rocket RS850 for dynamic and high level output without distortion or Salk SongTower for unbeatable mid-range. Most likely will go for Rocket RS850 as I use it 70% for HT as base on the feedback, rocket will play louder and more dynamic compare to songtower. Their center channel RSC200 is a monster. I always feel that we need a very good and  dynamic center speaker as most dialogue is from center speaker.
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If you go to my above post on the great speakers shoot-out, the are some rocket speakers there too. Can we buy the rocket and the Salk here in malaysia?
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QUOTE(pierreye @ Jun 30 2009, 03:03 PM)
and salk haven't reply my email regarding shipping. After further research, I think salk might not play nicely above 100db. So if you looking for very loud and dynamic speaker, have to look into Rocket RS850. Plus the price is USD 500 cheaper. Movie reference level is 105db (THX reference level). Most of us will play in between 85db to 95db which is pretty loud. As for MTS-01 with new XO, not much review and I think most people back off after the first review. As it is their first attempt at speaker, might need to take v2 to get the ingredient right.
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Its a shame SVS didn't get it right the first time. Looks like a lot of good speakers are only online direct. With the shipping cost so high, it makes it hard for us to own them.
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QUOTE(elmer @ Jun 30 2009, 03:41 PM)
Its not that expensive. My friend just got a Dynaudio Audience 52 bookshelf speakers for SGD 1500. The sound blew me away!
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If the dynaudio is so good, then this means that the Sierra is a steal...

Quote from Review By Clarke Robinson from enjoythemusic.com

"There are many different types of audio dealers. Some are okay, many are not, but AudioVision SF is what you hope for any time you walk in to a hi-fi shop. They represent a broader range of manufacturers than any shop I've ever seen, and Chris, a refreshingly low-pressure salesperson, loves this stuff and he's not afraid to show it off. I made an appointment initially to compare the Sierra-1 with the much-lauded Dynaudio Focus 140, which is around $1800 and an excellent speaker that was designed, like the Sierra, with total neutrality in mind. After a few swaps I really couldn't hear any difference between the two. To hear anything resembling an improvement over the Sierra-1, we had to step up to the Dali Helicon 300, a cool $3299 a pair."
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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Jun 30 2009, 04:49 PM)
Lightning Bro,

Not sure about reviews though, but I think reviews are just the supportive reference when you're unsure and have shortlisted your initial list and budget.

If what the reviewer claims and it goes the same with what you hear and feel then that's a keeper. But again that's when you've already auditioned them, and just unsure which you like best.

Anyway, buying blindly would just be based on reviews and just "blindly", are you the type?

All those are not available here i think, except the Dali which has recently been taken over by A&L, previously i think the other one was in City Square.

Can't just judge which is better based on reviews, at most times.
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I fully agreed with you...in fact a lot of reviews are bogus or bias. That is why i am not ready to buy one just yet.

But so far there are lots of audiophile reviews on the Sierra and they are nothing but astounding. Remember the speakers shoot out from users on avforum on my earlier post. Here is the link just in case you miss it. Link That is some of the best way to tell how a speaker perform in relations to other speakers.

Here is photo taken from the events.
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Being able to stand own its own against all those bigger speakers is no easy task for the Sierra.
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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Jun 30 2009, 05:17 PM)
bro unless u wanna listen to music in full range using only your speakers,without your sub,  u should be looking at ascend 340se.  They are supposed to be more neutral, easier to drive and take more punishment than sierra1,  just cant go as low as sierra1.  They r on sale now too but still u have to be sure neutral speakers r what u r looking for.  Buying speakers based on reviews is never advisable.   I did it but bcoz i was fed up with the few stores that i visited locally.  Either no ready stock to audition, bad service or more bad service with ridiculous price. 

Pls take note dat there r too many fanboys around including ascend and svs  fanboys so take everything  with few pinches of salt.  Just use the reviews as a rough guide to know the characteristic of the speakers.  If u have a frenly local hifi store to go to then it is always a better choice, if u happen to stay in a kampung like me without a frenly local hifi store then maybe Internet Direct maybe your last option.   Sorry talk until off topic liao
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I'm using the B&W602 now which is also a studio monitor albeit a cheap one. I am quite happy with it. Not sure how much better is the Sierra.


Added on June 30, 2009, 5:59 pmThis from one of the person during the speaker shootout...

"We were able to hear the Sierra's in his room along with the SVS sub. Having the sub there added another dimension to the Sierra's. I think I can speak for those who were there... We all looked at each other like "holy **** this is impressive".

maybe I can replicate the same thing in my living room smile.gif

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jun 30 2009, 07:14 PM)
Let me share another speaker suggestion - Revel.

You might say "What?!? Revel stuff is super expensive and out of consideration". Actually since we're talking about speakers in the 5k range here, I just found out the 'entry level' Revel Concerta F12 is priced at 5.4k (that is not a typo) and this is a true 3 way speaker.

The reviews are quite positive and demo can be done at Perfect Hi-Fi in Jalan Raja Chulan. I might go there to listen one day.

Another one I might audition later is the Focus Audio FC 8 at 5.8k.
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Thanks. Will take a look at it.
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post Jul 1 2009, 01:31 AM

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The audiophile world is indeed confusing!
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post Jul 1 2009, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jul 1 2009, 07:12 PM)
excite is not tat hard to drive actually.... go n listen n compare ..

dun just like keep on copy n paste info and blow blow water biggrin.gif

better still let dynaudio blow u away

dun belip? ask the others like MPYW? biggrin.gif he was bz looking for the sub....but there aint any...but the sound from small bookshelf is amazing biggrin.gif
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The price is amazing too!
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jul 1 2009, 07:23 PM)
can buy audisi ...tis one kacang puteh for u tongue.gif
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Not in the mood to spend that much money on a pair of speakers yet.
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Ever wonder how the dynaudio when pair to the PC12-plus would sound?
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 7 2009, 11:38 PM)
There is thread on this SVS loudspeakers in avsforum. A forummer did post that MTS-01 is good and that it matches the Dynaudio but at much lower price. Post #437

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....=865504&page=15

So good? I will find out soon
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Be very careful about one person's review...often very bias. The reason I buy the SVS sub is because almost all the people who bought it say great things about SVS sub. That is not the case for SVS speakers.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 9 2009, 08:51 AM)
Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I have personally auditioned the MTS-01 in S'pore but the venue didn't allow it to perform excellently. It sounds bright too. So, about the one person's view, yes it may be biased.

However, the MTS-01 systems garnered quite good review from Sound and Vision and being awarded 'Certified & Recommended'. I have the mag too. So, kind of itching to listen to its audio quality in a room. 

http://www.svsound.com/reviews/2008-10_Sound_and_Vision.pdf

Having said that, the system needs a beefy power amp to really get it working handsomely just like mpyw's Axiom. On that note, I am tempted to get the Emotiva XPA-5 to do the job as my new 4310 is just puny  sad.gif
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That is true. The MTS-O1 is rated 4 ohm so is kind of power hungry. Might want to audition the MBS-01 as i prefer bookshelf to tower since i am using a sub. Shopping for speakers is harder then woofer as there are more speaker choices and also speakers tend to have very different sound signature which appeal to different people.

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