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convivencia
post Jun 29 2009, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Jun 27 2009, 05:40 PM)
i think it is kinda like scam sweat.gif
1 bid will cost money and in the auction, it only raise RM0.01
it is not like lelong where u can bid infinitely up to a ceiling price..

i've did some simple calculation;
1 bid cost RM1.5 (cheapest! higher if u buy less)
the most hot item on the auction is the HP mini laptop which retail cost RM1499 and they promised 50% price from retail or they will refund the extra.. for example, if the auction raises to rm800 with winner, the winner will get rm50 money back excluding the fund used to buy bids..

so 1 bid raises rm0.01, to reach rm750 (example), they need 75,000 bids
since 1 bid cost rm1.5 hence 75,000 x 1.5 = RM112,500 is the profit they made on a sub thousand laptop doh.gif

or do i understand the auction wrongly?
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the REAL scam is not this...

the REAL scam is that they purposely become the LAST bidder on items that they can re-sell

it happened on me, on Celcom last time they had something like that, and i waited until the very last minutes, and I mean it, and started bidding like mad

actually i won the bid, but they never contacted me, and when i call them they said somebody else won the bid

damn them to hell !

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post Jun 29 2009, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Jun 29 2009, 07:56 PM)
dont u have the prove which state that u actually won the bid?

yeah, there is a posibility that they will disguise as normal bidder to bid the price 9 9
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the bid was by sms

the bid supposed to close at 12.00 midnite, but often the "last minute bidding war" goes till 12.13 am or so.

to ensure i get the very last one, i used 3 phones, all celcom line, to do bidding

one bid after another, giving others no chance to up me, and i do it until the last second, until the bid is closed

and for several times, i WAS the very last one entering the bid, i am sure, very sure

then... they got someone (their own people) to up the bid internally

damn cheat ! damn damn cheat !!!!

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post Jun 29 2009, 08:52 PM

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yalor... that's why i stopped participating in such scams
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post Jun 29 2009, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 09:11 PM)
That's the magic. they will ensure we won't know.

I'm in IT line. such "AI" not hard to develop. Just continious monitor the auction intervals and calculate whether its time to "activate" a drone aka robot to auto-bid or not. Frustrated real bidder might continue to play along. And in the last minute when the minimum-value-that-ensure-they-profit is met, the system will just play nice and let the "lucky" user make final bid and win.
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look, bidding on e-bays we can use bots

if users can use bots, u think services like penny auctions don't have bots for themselves?

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post Jun 29 2009, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Panda @ Jun 29 2009, 09:27 PM)
What if Penny Auction is owned by se7en.. will you get a permanent ban for reporting?
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dude, that's when DUPE comes in

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post Jul 1 2009, 05:44 PM

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Can the mod merge thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1075687 with thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1077480 please?

Thank you !
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post Jul 7 2009, 07:55 PM

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i think i saw some cheating on pennyauction:

there was an item, the clock runs down to 10 second, clock turns red, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 and then there is a flash of some sort, then the red clock goes 3, 2, 1, and then it turns back to orange, somebody else name in there

i think the system is cheating !

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