Speaking of Albert eh?
He is NEVER knowledge-selfish.

imagining if i have UWA:

dingenius3: Some lenses change angle of view when focusing (the effect is particularly noticeable on internal focusing lenses.)

Therefore, you only get the "true focal length" of a lens when it is focused at infinity... it will widen as you focus closer.

Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus when focused to 87cm MFD, gives 1:4 maximum magnification
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA when focused to 72cm MFD, also gives 1:4 maximum magnification even though the focal length is the same!

The reason being that the STF is external focus, while the CZ is internal focus.

Therefore, an internal focusing macro lens will need you to get closer to the subject.

SpOOkY: Er, why do you need HSM for ultra-wide-angle?

Also, for the shot of the village... what would a Magnum photographer do?

A) change to an ultra-wide angle lens
B) walk near the house and talk to the inhabitants, and take award-winning shots of them

This post has been edited by albnok: Jul 1 2009, 12:52 PM

albert: fell in love with it heheh, and after trying the tammy 1750 on my cam, i really dislike the focusing speed and noise...
walk near near? i cant leh, have to swim over ..besides, they are super scary...NAKED somore...

they actually came nearer to me , (yes they SWIM!) and pose for me and then came nearer asking for money...of course la i ran for my life haha...(i deleted the pic where they posed ...coz its pretty ugly)

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Added on July 1, 2009, 1:00 pmi tot it is the other way round?
can i say that lens with rotating front is external focusing while non rotating is internal focusing?

This post has been edited by Sp00kY: Jul 1 2009, 01:00 PM

aiyo maa.. aiyo paa~~ come la... no restriction...
even people got no camera at all pun can join wat..


dats funny man... i hope they are not cannibals... where exactly u shot that pics?


What: Mo0 TT Session #2 !!

When: Thursday, 2nd July 2009
Time: 8pm ++
Where: Mamak Shop (Jamal Mohammad) beside Uptown Police Station (nearby) and OldTown

Who's coming?

1. Mo0
2. dingenius3
3. mie_75 + frens ? << ok tak cik puan
4. millenia3000
5. signither ????
6. craziqbal (tentative)
7. spooky (come ler)

The thread has been about wide angle. Curious, anyone had an idea where I can loan/rent a lens? Need a wide angle

Albert: RWMF2009 is just 9 days away. You'll be there, right?

Thanks, will try to make it...
i shot that in floating village cambodia

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Added on July 1, 2009, 1:14 pmthe village:


i went there to see this:
c&c pls


This post has been edited by Sp00kY: Jul 1 2009, 01:25 PM

SpOOkY: Looking at the picture again, I think you got the wrong idea where to take the picture. I would go tele from then on. Notice the kids on the darker house? You can make it a documentary-style thing. And yes, give them some loose change!

Kids are usually camera-shy so you should consider yourself lucky that they swam over to pose!

In your second picture of the village, the clouds are over-dominating. Also I'd rather zoom in on the boat.

An ultra-wide would work if you were looking at a scene that was far more plain than this one, e.g. plain green grass field and blue sky. Here, I just see a load of detail crammed down there. Get in on it!

Also, was it cloudy? The color processing seems to suggest so. So work with the mood of the clouds. Look for the villager who looks up, thinking "it's going to rain." Get a close shot of his/her face looking up. Or find someone bringing in clothes (also signalling rain coming.)

As for the third picture, the greens are correct, but the sky has a strong tint of green. Mask it off and process it again. You are also trying to cram too much in one picture - an ultra-wide-angle lens is going to make it worse!

I see lotuses, a tiny monument (well in relation to the picture frame) and a reflection. And some rocks. But they're not gelling together, y'know?

Yes most rotating front lenses are external focusers. However the Minolta/Sony 50mm F1.4's front does not rotate but it does have external focus.

wha7ever: Went for RWMF2008, not quite looking forward to spending more there. Probably from a musical sense I felt I could just go to the Sunrise Jazz Fest; I guess percussion-heavy music is not my thing. Also the alcohol was controlled in 2008 so it's not quite as fun as it was acclaimed to be. 2007 was supposedly the best but I've only been for the 2008 one. Regardless, have fun! Kuching is also photogenic, amazing blue skies and clouds everywhere.

This post has been edited by albnok: Jul 1 2009, 01:37 PM

they are freaking scary wei ...keep sticking around u for money and once u give then habis adi...the whole village were come to u hehe...okok get ur idea thanks...and the smallest change i have that time was USD1! its like RM3.50!!!!! these kids arent shy at all...scary scary..

2nd pic, i do like the sky frankly, but yeah it makes the picture a bit flat...something like this perhaps? it gives better feeling i think...a feel of that place...erh duno if i managed to capture it
1)


ooh...plain scene...okok..i suck at landscape..(maybe shooting in general)...plain as in something like the below?
2)

3)


hhmm...the mood of the clouds...pretty hard for me to digest ..one part of the cloud is actually raining (or i should say one part of the sky haah)

Thanks for all of the comments..appreciate it...sorry for the SPAMS

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Added on July 1, 2009, 1:50 pmi like this
so how you will shoot if you are there? I wana get the entire temple into the frame.....
something like that? Cleaner?


This post has been edited by Sp00kY: Jul 1 2009, 01:50 PM

Try Uncle Chin , Zaloon Studio

be careful
1) condition 7.5/10
2) no more warranty

guys f58 on selling section.

wooo..when the time i go, no one actually swim to us and ask for $...is the village u go same as mine at the tonle sap







those photo have been posted long time ago

i like this pic, its like i can feel some of 3D-ish there

SpOOkY: Ah #1 is much much better! I get the feeling I'm in a village. Yes #2 would be an example of where I'd use an ultra-wide-angle. For #3 however I see a nice field (this is where the Sigma 17-70mm would come in handy, to macro in on a flower while keeping the sky in the picture...)

About the cash thing, well cash makes your photography more serious. As in, you'd be more eager to make the best of your USD1 instead of taking a shot sekadar layan. This applies to clients also - you get paid enough, you'll take your job seriously (instead of "aiya he pay me RM10 to take his pictures I simply take lah!"); they pay enough, they'll want to make sure they get their money's worth (if not, they can go "aiya, even if picture not nice also nevermind, I find another photographer, since I just lose RM10...")

To get the entire temple... take a few steps back? Or try to remember to catch it on your way out. Or just take it at a hard angle (a few steps forward, screw the pond) and shoot it in portrait mode.

I shoot bands performing, regularly. It is rare that the entire band will be in a pose, or they are too far apart. So I end up taking individual pictures, as that works much better. Same goes for travel - if you can't get everything, or getting everything means things become small and unnoticeable, just focus on the details.

So, if the temple wall has interesting engravings, and the minarets are also interesting, shoot both separately!

Finally, don't be afraid to break the 3:2 ratio if you need to.

Check out this dude's shots:

http://wkcheang.blogspot.com/2007/07/in-last-30-days.html

Note that there is a strong presence of geometry in his shots.

check out the Singapore official retail price for sony 50mm F1.8.. Its S$219
http://www.sony.com.sg/product/sal50f18

so i shd expect around 180 i guess?


anyway...been trying to edit some noob shots taken when i just bought my camera..lol



no crop or wadever..only added color treatment in photoshop + adjusting contrast....

i expect the street price would be around ±S$180.
any recommended camera shop to hunt this price?

msia usually has cheaper price than sg...but if u don mind paying a few bucks more rather than travel all the way back...u can try MS Color at AMK or Cathay Photo...

Hi alphanians, I planning to go for a scenery shooting at putrajaya at midnight, it would be around the bridge+mosque, any idea where to park the car? My first time to there...

This post has been edited by 5564321: Jul 1 2009, 06:59 PM