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TSrockets
post Jun 22 2009, 05:11 PM, updated 17y ago

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I know we're still in the early stages of this particular technology, but scientists have made predictions that nanotechnolgy will change human lives forever. We'll never be hungry again, we'll never be sick, our wounds grow back in a second, and we'll never get old. If you've ever played the Metal Gear Solid series, you'll have an idea what nanotechnology is, in this case how nanobots produced through nanotechnology can create the ultimate soldier.

"Nanotechnology, shortened to "Nanotech", is the study of the control of matter on an atomic and molecular scale. Generally nanotechnology deals with structures of the size 100 nanometers or smaller, and involves developing materials or devices within that size. Nanotechnology is very diverse, ranging from novel extensions of conventional device physics, to completely new approaches based upon molecular self-assembly, to developing new materials with dimensions on the nanoscale, even to speculation on whether we can directly control matter on the atomic scale."

"With the advent of full-scale nanotechnology in the 2020s we will have the potential to replace biology’s genetic-information repository in the cell nucleus with a nanoengineered system that would maintain the genetic code and simulate the actions of RNA, the ribosome, and other elements of the computer in biology’s assembler. A nano-computer would maintain the genetic code and implement the gene-expression algorithms. A nanobot would then construct the amino-acid sequences for the expressed genes.

There would be significant benefits in adopting such a mechanism. We would eliminate the accumulation of DNA transcription errors, one major source of the aging process. We would also be able to defeat biological pathogens (bacteria, viruses, and cancer cells) by blocking any unwanted replication of genetic information."

"Kurzweil notes earlier in the book how nanobots would do a better job of getting oxygen to cells than the biological solution (red blood cells), and in the following paragraphs, suggests how we could redesign the cells themselves to be mostly immune to pathogens."

The possibilities are endless with such technology. Lets look at some of the issues the world is currently facing that can drastically shorten our lifespan and could be solved by nanotechnology.

Diseases, namely cancer. Nanobots could enter the human body and destroy the cancer one cell at a time.

Hunger. Nanobots could turn a rock into something edible by rearranging it's atomic structure and by introducing some other common elements into it.

Dirty air. Nanobots could peel the Carbon from the C-O2, and we'll have our breathable O2.

Human Flaws. War, anger, evil intentions, etc. Nanobots can trigger or suppress certain parts of your brain to control your emotions and thinking. You'll always be able to control your anger and fear. You'll be a flawless human, somewhat like the people in Gattaca if you've watched that movie.


I believe if we ever get this perfected, I'll be something that will change humans forever. Nanotechnology is at the ladder of science that will branch into infinite possibilities.
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post Jun 22 2009, 07:21 PM

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the answer to human immortality is cancer.

cancer cells are scientifically termed immortal cells. because they never die and their telomeres never shorten. but because of the rapid rate of replication errors accumulate.

so u got two birds to kill. that is the shortening of the telomeres and reducing the errors.

even then. you will not achieve true immortality.
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:24 PM

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key to immortality is to copy your consciousness/brain/personality into a machine/robot/cyborg. then even when your body dies, technically you still live.
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Jun 22 2009, 11:24 PM)
key to immortality is to copy your consciousness/brain/personality into a machine/robot/cyborg. then even when your body dies, technically you still live.
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Yea that would work...maybe lol
But would u wanna be so? U can't sense anything lol
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:59 PM

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thats what you think. whats sensation but some electrical impulses running through your nerves? that can be easily simulated
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post Jun 23 2009, 12:41 AM

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Well for instance...the most exciting things done on the bed.
How are you going to simulate that?
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post Jun 23 2009, 02:26 AM

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the human's lifespan is limited for a good cause. our mortality buffers over-consumption of all there is good. and over-consumption breeds global-warming. thus we are the root of our annihilation.

therefore, space exploration is imminent to preserve our kind. laugh.gif
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post Jun 23 2009, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(St.Fu @ Jun 23 2009, 02:26 AM)
the human's lifespan is limited for a good cause. our mortality buffers over-consumption of all there is good. and over-consumption breeds global-warming. thus we are the root of our annihilation.

therefore, space exploration is imminent to preserve our kind. laugh.gif
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but so far, no planets have been discovered which can be inhabited by humans in the future...

nanotechnology has its promises...
yet there are many hidden dangers which we havent discovered yet in this short period of time...

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post Jun 23 2009, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(St.Fu @ Jun 23 2009, 02:26 AM)
the human's lifespan is limited for a good cause. our mortality buffers over-consumption of all there is good. and over-consumption breeds global-warming. thus we are the root of our annihilation.

therefore, space exploration is imminent to preserve our kind. laugh.gif
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not with nanotech. if you bothered to read through the whole thing, you'll see that raw materials, food, and global warming will no longer be an issue.

the only problem i see is earth running out of space due to everyone not dying.
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post Jun 23 2009, 05:45 PM

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nanotech can never give u immortality. what it can give u is better technology.

like shape shifting furniture. or self molding roof
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post Jun 23 2009, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(selenium @ Jun 23 2009, 05:45 PM)
nanotech can never give u immortality. what it can give u is better technology.

like shape shifting furniture. or self molding roof
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Nanorobotics theorist, suggests tiny medical nanorobots could be created to go through human bloodstreams, find dangerous things like cancer cells and bacteria, and destroy them. They anticipate that gene-therapies and nanotechnology will eventually make the human body effectively self-sustainable and capable of living indefinitely, short of severe trauma. This supports the theory that we will be able to continually create biological or synthetic replacement parts to replace damaged or dying ones

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Well for instance...the most exciting things done on the bed.
How are you going to simulate that?


A machine that delivers an orgasm at the push of a button has been patented in the US. brows.gif
http://www.wireheading.com/orgasmatron/



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post Jun 24 2009, 03:21 AM

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What more important is... SIDE EFFECTS~~

Its scarier when playing things with something like nanobots inside the human body. It makes a good fiction but in reality, its worrying if its used illegally and made another venture for crime.
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post Jun 24 2009, 08:33 AM

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Nanotechnology do not essentially increase life span. What control our life span is aging. With the cells aged, cancerous cells are easier to surface. You can prolong your life span if you can control the aging process. People do die even though they do not sick or having any form of cancer. They organs aged and failed after their supposed life span.

Everything fails, but our body fails after 60-70 years of continuous usage (compared to some mechanical part which lasted 10 - 20 years only). Isn't it good enough?
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post Jun 25 2009, 11:34 AM

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I believe the correct term is not 'immortality', but 'indefinite lifespan'.

Immortality means that you can never truly die, and such a term is usually reserved for supreme beings such as gods or deities.

Indefinite lifespan, however, means that the person will not die of natural causes, such as old age, but he will be succeptible to other kinds of causes, such as trauma and diseases.

That means that a person with an indefinite lifespan will age up to infinity, but will die if he fell of a cliff or in a horrific car accident.


Added on June 25, 2009, 11:46 am
QUOTE(SurpriseZZZZZ @ Jun 24 2009, 08:33 AM)
Nanotechnology do not essentially increase life span. What control our life span is aging. With the cells aged, cancerous cells are easier to surface. You can prolong your life span if you can control the aging process. People do die even though they do not sick or having any form of cancer. They organs aged and failed after their supposed life span.

Everything fails, but our body fails after 60-70 years of continuous usage (compared to some mechanical part which lasted 10 - 20 years only). Isn't it good enough?
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But mechanical parts can be artificially replaced, while our cells cannot.

This post has been edited by mylife4nerzhul: Jun 25 2009, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ Jun 25 2009, 12:34 PM)
I believe the correct term is not 'immortality', but 'indefinite lifespan'.

Immortality means that you can never truly die, and such a term is usually reserved for supreme beings such as gods or deities.

Indefinite lifespan, however, means that the person will not die of natural causes, such as old age, but he will be succeptible to other kinds of causes, such as trauma and diseases.

That means that a person with an indefinite lifespan will age up to infinity, but will die if he fell of a cliff or in a horrific car accident.


Added on June 25, 2009, 11:46 am

But mechanical parts can be artificially replaced, while our cells cannot.
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Precisely!

Absolutely correct.

If you were "immortal", you would not die even if you got run over a truck on the road or if someone chopped off your head.

Nobody is immortal.

But anti-aging process could "probably" be "delayed" by technology. But that wouldn't not stop you from dying in freak accidents.

This post has been edited by prolog: Jun 25 2009, 02:45 PM
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post Jun 25 2009, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Jun 22 2009, 11:24 PM)
key to immortality is to copy your consciousness/brain/personality into a machine/robot/cyborg. then even when your body dies, technically you still live.
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Debate is still ongoing on the idea of consciousness/mind. How does consciousness appear? Can consciousness be created/made? What happens to humans after they die? What happens to their consciousness? Do animals have consciousness? Do plants have consciousness?

QUOTE(aoibhealFae @ Jun 24 2009, 03:21 AM)
What more important is... SIDE EFFECTS~~

Its scarier when playing things with something like nanobots inside the human body. It makes a good fiction but in reality, its worrying if its used illegally and made another venture for crime.
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I agree with you. I can already imagine what kind of control a person can exert on another when there are tiny robots in the person. The person controlling the robots in others will be able to control their lifes (eg. through threats etc.). And imagine if these robots malfunction inside a person, this would definitely cause trouble.


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post Jul 20 2009, 08:54 PM

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Nanotechnoloy enables humans to control robots that might be able to help us out in our daily life. But indirectly, its harmful to humans. With those side effect like infrared etc
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post Jul 20 2009, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Kellyyhx @ Jul 20 2009, 08:54 PM)
Nanotechnoloy enables  humans to control robots that might be able to help us out in our daily life. But indirectly, its harmful to humans. With those side effect like infrared etc
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Well, don't you think the IR exposure you get from the sun is infinitely greater than something on the nano scale ....
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post Jul 21 2009, 01:40 AM

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If there are microbiological invasion within our body, i wish there are no nanobots invasion as well. Imagine million of nanobots entering into ur system than attack ur brain...gahh!!!!
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Haha..this thread reminds me of Vexille.. Anyone here watch that anime before, kinda creeps me out tongue.gif

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