Wrong.
Liver cancer for Hep B infected patient ranges from a few percent to 20%.
The exact number is not yet established.

Yes. Everyone should go for vaccination.
The only reason our government did not make this compulsory is because it is more financially sound for the government to treat those infected rather than vaccinating everyone.

True but there are some novel drugs that can be taken to suppress the virus to the point of almost curing.
The drug have to be taken for a long term though.
at least 6 months to a few years.

My dad is a Hep B carrier.
I'm vaccinated already.
Total cost of the drugs for the estimated period of time it needs to be taken runs more than RM20,000
Yes. The drug is very expensive.

So save up a little & get the vaccination.
Don't skip the 2nd or 3rd jab or you'll have to do it all over again.

I suppose u will not regret when u are infected with Hep B & C as there is no cure for that.
& I suspect you will not look for doctors help when the disease manifest itself?

I don't trust EVERYTHING doctors said.
That is why there is a term call "second opinion"
But I do trust evidence based medicine.

When the evidence is right in front of someone, & that someone refuse to believe it, usually I just ignore that someone

yeah right.

which clinic?
Government or private?
Private charges differently.

Yup.
Those who refused to take the vaccination just because they don't want it should be considered a criminal because if they are infected, they may infect other people & may indirectly kill that person.
I do understand that some people are just short-minded

Unfortunately I can't do that.
In the clinic I have to wear disposable gown, double latex glove & disposable instruments. Not to mention separate autoclave for high risk patients.
That is no problem. I have enough protection.

Problem arises when I'm not wearing protection & I don't know if the patient is telling the truth of not having Hepatitis B, C or HIV.
I'm not talking rubbish.
This is proven science.
One that cannot be doctored with countless independent tests.

Paranoid is right but not unreasonable paranoia.

I'm not assuming that somebody will put their fluid on me.
That I can charge as criminal offence.
A simple sneeze or cough is enough to transmit the virus.
Don't u know that?

& how exactly can I avoid unvaccinated people?
Maybe u should start by sticking a paper written "Hep-B unvaccinated" on your forehead

& u have a weird sense of logic that u do not trust proven evidence-based science.
I don't know what is your education level nor am I to judge it, but even orang asli nowadays take vaccination.

Enough said
& as per what my friend emailed me, I will not reply to u anymore:
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Sorry that I still replied.
Kinda fun already
But I had to. So other people can gain knowledge from what i post.

It is clear that u do not understand how vaccination works.
Once vaccinated, we are properly protected with the antibodies.
But not 100%.
Why?
The antibody level can go down in certain diseases & conditions making even those who are already vaccinated, susceptible to the infection.
& we can't always know when the "down-time" is

What is the connection of anti-viral with Hep-carrier with death?
Don't worry. He's fine so far. No symptom manifests.

Interesting intellectual discussion albeit somewhat ridiculous

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I think even wikipedia states the mode of transmission for Hep-B

Sorry for using your own word but

Read up before u talk

Let me help u & other people who may not know this yet.

wikipedia

ok

+1

I guess when & if HIV vaccination arrives, these kind of people will still say.. "Well, i'm going the natural way & let me develop the immunity myself (of course by being infected by HIV..how else?)"

wrong again.
Vaccination plays the critical role here.

Again, the simplest place to get info, wikipedia (although not always true, but in this case, the fact is correct)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis_eradication
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox

Sorry my internet is kinda sucky here.
The video won't load.

So the doctor meant that we should infect ourselves with HIV so we get the immunity?
If I were given a choice, I'll take the vaccine.
I suppose u should go infect yourself with HIV?

I understand how u feel bro

Probably an arts student.
I don't know.
He spends a lot of time in the musician forum.

It is good to question things.
I myself question a lot of things.
But u don't even seem to be looking for the answer.
Come on..u don't even know how Hep-B is transmitted.
By unprotected sex only? That is HIV (which also transmit by other ways as well)
You reject science which is proven & verified again & again, yet you don't even have a sound argument why you are objecting it.

Lets just assume.
I'm a super duper hygienic person.
Wash hand everytime I touch anything.
My bath tub is filled with antimicrobial for me to soak in

One day, while I was walking in a mall still cautious not to touch anybody, suddenly a blind granny sneeze at me.
Few weeks later, I was diagnosed with Hep-B
All this while, all the hygienic procedure I follow so religiously went down the toilet.
& regret not taking the vaccine.

& wrong again.
Unprotected sex is not the main cause.
Bodily fluid especially from cough & sneeze is the main mode of transmission.
How I know this?
I'm a dentistry student. So prevention of Hep-B cross infection is very important my line of duty.
We study deeply about that.
This is not just based on lecture notes.
It is confirmed & verified by numerous studies.
Just look up google yourself.

yeah right.
ok.
great.
whatever.

Antipsychotic drugs can help him right?
oh wait..he's delusional & don't want drugs & are paranoid of doctors = only witch doctor can help

hehe..we'll see how long u last.
Why human lifespan have keep increasing over the decades?
Medicine, doctors etc.
Yes lifestyle affects our lifespan.
But who determines what lifestyle is good or bad?
Doctors, researchers, graduates, students etc
Without them doing the studies & research you so delusionally paranoid about, we will never know.

I don't eat whatever crap i want.
I control my diet properly.
I love eating eggs but I try not to order then when eating outside as most fried rice already contains 1 egg.

When the unfortunate time came, I take the drugs necessary & visit doctor when in need.
U said doctors thinks they are god. I think, u think yourself as god as u can control EVERYTHING in your life to avoid diseases.
I don't think I can control everything as many things are not yet known or established.
So I take all the precautions including vaccination to avoid diseases (including proper diet & lifestyle)

i don't know what Dr Luc Montagnier said but you seem to be obsessed with him (as much as u might call me obsessed with proven verified indisputable science)

I never said artificially acquired immunity is better than naturally acquired ones.
But your pea sized brain refuses to believe that we CANNOT get natural immunity from certain viruses.

In Hep-B case, many can. But some cannot.
Many people are infected, naturally (without them even knowing) cured & naturally acquired the immunization.
Some people, when infected, the virus manage to continue to proliferate.

I'm thankful that this post contains some information that may increase other people knowledge. Not just talking trash without base & proof.
I challenge u. For whatever science, research & studies done that u object & think they are doctored, PROVE it.
Then I'll swallow back my own words & shoot my lecturers in between their eyes.