This post has been edited by nokia2003: Jun 23 2009, 11:31 AM

@nokia2003,
Thanks for the information! hAHahAH I thought the Setting's part of BeeJiveIM but it's in the GENERAL-SETTINGS page *oopS*

sure. no worries.

i only helped you because of the "female" tag try to help whenever i can.

I've just downloaded BeeJive 3.0 for iPhone. Unfortunately it's not working really well. Kinda buggy. In fact, my iPhone's rather buggy and laggy lately after updating to 3.0... =(

@BlueHeng,
Er just what are the issues/problems you're facing with BeeJiveIM?!

I guess everyone's taking advantage of it's 9.99 pricing to purchase the app before it goes back up to 15.99!

When will we get gps turn by turn navigation?

Navigon MobileNavigator Europe Turn by Turn is already available now on iTunes Store, price is USD94.99 , valid till June 30th before it goes up.


This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 23 2009, 12:50 PM

@stringfellow,
Unfortunately, Malaysia map isn't available. US94.99 is pretty steep too but I suppose that's how much one would pay for a Garmin anyhow

AT least it's a one-shot deal. The other option, Gokivo, tricks you into thinking it is USD0.99, when in fact you need to re-subscribe within the app itself (In-App Purchase, thanks OS 3.0! ) for USD9.99 per month to keep using it. Daylight robbery in action.

As for Malaysia map, you'll have to wait for TomTom to do it. Garmin is reportedly not taking part in AppStore due to their own project with Asus for their Garmin-Asus Nuviphone.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 23 2009, 12:49 PM

Gokivo gives you updated maps, so you get monthly updates which isn't so bad. $120 per year is a bit higher than $95 but you get new POIs, updated roads etc.

Personally though I've been using Garmin GPSes since 2005 and I plan to stick to it since the free Malaysian maps are great.

This post has been edited by tishaban: Jun 23 2009, 12:50 PM

Can;t wait for tom tom to come out. really keen to get more details on their iphone car holder.

@stringfellow & tishaban,
It's a good thing I don't quite need a navigator just yet. Am still using the one I got from Citibank; but that's uhm.. a GPS-Bay not a Garmin

What to do? I'm a cheapo!

Well I've been using BeeJive even before the 3.0 update. Back then it was great. Really stable and all. But just now it(beejive 3.0) just keeps hanging every now and then after the update. I'm currently doing a full reset to factory settings and restoring it now. Hopefully it'll fix the lag issues with my iPhone and BeeJive as well.

I hope they come out something like Garmin or better Just love the ease using it

From this link:-



Ummmm....No. The real convenience of a GPS unit, like your Garmin, is because the maps are built-in. If this app pulls the map OTA, then it is just another Google Map, with additional turn-by-turn voice prompts. Unless coverage is complete in the areas you plan to go, then you're stuck with no background map tiles to refer to, and defeats the purpose of a GPS Navigation system in the first place.

Navigon has the map built-in, hence the 1.65GB file installation/download. The same like Garmins which have their maps inside the unit, and being read as the unit travels along. Unless there is an app that allows loading up of the Malsingmap (this has to be from the Garmin-compliant map reader), then we're all stuck with these kind of solution.

I just gave an idea to any enterprising soul here to do a Garmin-Mobile-XT-esque app for the iPhone and to load up Malsingmaps into this app. I'm sure if that enterprising soul can come up with this, it will be a smash hit and people will buy them. *hint* *hint*

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 23 2009, 01:04 PM

@BlueHeng,
As I'm in the office at the moment, I'm connected via Adium and not BeeJiveIM but the few minutes I spent on BeeJiveIM it was ok.

I'll post reviews later when I finally get my hands on testing the actual app

@stringfellow,
hMm... too bad I just don't have the time, nor the expertise

This post has been edited by tinkerbel: Jun 23 2009, 01:07 PM

I'm on IM+ 3.0 lite but I'll be buying the full version soon. In fact, the Lite version serves me well except that nasty advertising bar. Thing I'll just buy it.

Wow... USD$94.99 is no small deal. Might as well get a standalone navigation device. No need to worry about battery operating time since its a dedicated device. And no crashes. Last time on my WinMo, Symbian phones with GMXT installed... at times it would just pop off and kick back to the home screen, right before I am expecting an exit. What would you do? Stop and reset? Hahaha! I guess those platforms have always been nasty. I don't know about iPhone though, but I am expecting something better on the experience.

Having said that, I would rather buy a proper device and be done with it. Also, you get to update your maps for free (in the case of Garmin and the Malsingmap collaboration). The rest of the maps... well you can always

@davidmak,
There are still limitations to IM+. Also, hasn't IM+ Lite been closing on U?! It always closes on me, even the full version.

Do go ahead and purchase IM+ - perhaps then after U've used both U could write a proper review It's not fair to write a review comparing 2 similar applications when U don't use both of em

This post has been edited by tinkerbel: Jun 23 2009, 01:10 PM

I couldn't agree more.... GPS devices are so cheap nowadays. If it's about AUD50 I would still consider.. but then again I guess that's a really childish wish.

Tell that to Garmin when they release their Nuviphone. Your point on "dedicated device" is bust when Garmin themselves are trying to cash in the lucrative mobile phone business.

The point here is, as long as the mobile platform is stable, there should not be any problem using that as your primary navigation device. With Winblows Blowbile, you'd half-expect the instability of that to interfere with the navigation program, therefore making it problematic as you described earlier. With stable mobile platforms like the Apple OS, or the mobile Linux OS Garmin is using for their Nuviphone, there shouldn't be any problems.

Carrying two devices when you can carry one? I thought Apple advocates are more open to mobile convergence when their iPhones itself symbolizes this.

The argument of "dedicated is better than convergence device" only holds true when the convergence device is unable to provide a service matching the dedicated device. Once the convergence device is able to provide operating standards that matches that of the dedicated device, then why hold on to that dedicated device anymore? It can be your standby unit, but most of the time, that convergence device can do, on par, what the dedicated device does.

The battery issue is also rendered moot since you will be using this in your car, and "hi there car charger"!

Which brings back to my point: Malaysians love free things. Malsingmaps provides free relatively updated maps. IF there is an AppStore app that can read and display these maps, then all you need to do is just buy that app, and load up your free Malsingmap and be done for, if you're not into buying maps from other providers. The question is, who will step up and make this AppStore app?

OT but somewhat related: The only reason why MalsingMap exists is because GPS users in these two countries were appalled at the level of coverage and map updating quality from the providers of maps such as Garmin themselves, or other alternatives like TeleNav, etc. That is how they embarked on their own self-dedicated journey on creating an updated map of Malaysia/Singapore (hence Malsing) for their Garmin GPS devices. Now, if these big-scale map providers like Garmin, Navigon, TeleAtlas themselves took heed and do the region proper with dedicated and updated map for this region, to a level surpassing MalsingMap, there would not be a reason to prefer the MalsingMap over these maps, other than the fact that MalsingMaps are free. I don't blame the early adopters for going their own way, look at what they have achieved with MalsingMaps. But "Free stuff" can only remain "free" so only so long.....

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jun 23 2009, 01:30 PM