National Team The "La Furia Roja" Spain National Team Talk, EURO 2012 WINNER--- RECORD AFTER RECORD
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 May 30 2012, 02:02 AM
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Well i think torres has the experience the team needs(He's a regular for spain in euro 2008 and WC 2010). He might not have performed that well last season, but i think he's still vital to the spain national team.(Without david villa around)
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Jun 19 2012, 05:43 PM
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Nice thread, although there's already a thread for spain national team. Similarly i asked a madrid fan why not put ramos at right back? He told me ramos is clumsy. Things would become even worse if he plays right back. Basically, he's better at centre back. If u have watched him playing for madrid, there are a lot of "scary" moments from ramos. Another RB, maybe juanfran?
I'm ok with torres playing upfront. I don't think he's that terrible. I know there are other options like negredo and llorente. But if u see, torres scored 2 goals against ireland and basically he's got a lot of international experience. Alonso plays a deeper role, while xavi stays upfront and make his passes. Busquet moves around and try to win the ball. Spain plays with lots of possessions, silva and iniesta are technically gifted players and both of them can hold the ball really well and produce opportunities as well. What's lack is probably the finishing? |
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Jun 19 2012, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(barca96 @ Jun 19 2012, 05:56 PM) Stop trolling dude. Are u missing spain in the past with david villa and torres starting together? More goals right? I clearly said "these players' as in these players are needed for the team to fully function. Added on June 19, 2012, 5:59 pm Thanks. Ramos used to be clumsy but he is a threat for the opposition. Yes, he turned out pretty good at CB for Madrid this season. I thought that it would be a wreck. I don't know much about JuanFran so I can't really comment on him. My suggestion would be to move Javi Martinez to CB. In the Spanish team, VdB should make some changes. He needs to be more daring like any good tactician would be. Do you think that Alonso is needed in this team? He is just occupying Xavi's space and Xavi is taking up Iniesta's space. Because of Alonso, Iniesta is being moved to LW. Ask any Barca fan, that's one of the things that Pep did that we disliked. He is only 50% effective there. Everybody knows how good Xavi Iniesta is in the middle of the park.  Anyway, Vdb actually just got a new contract until 2014 right? Hmm. And i don't think he will drop alonso. |
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Jun 19 2012, 08:22 PM
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Hmm actually TS got his points. So u guys just give ur valuable opinions in a good way. David silva is more towards passing and assisting. Watched mata played for chelsea, technically he is very good too and can score goals.
The way navas plays, he's gonna run down the right flank and crosses(he rips the right flank and i agree he's pretty one dimensional). VDB should start to give other strikers some chances as well(negredo and llorente). Hmm the pundits actually said if there's weakness in the spain national team. It's gonna be their right-back which is arbeloa. |
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Jun 19 2012, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 19 2012, 10:17 PM) Have you ever wondered why there is so few neutral threads, discussing about neutral topics in FL these days? If you have, then that's the answer Waiting from your reply. I'm sure u have many valuable thoughts(Since u watch many spanish football) and u know better than us  Seriously susah want to discuss anything.In response to your post, well, I've got plenty to say. But maybe another time, I'm busy with reports now. However, regarding your concerns, especially about the double pivot, it is already been discussed earlier in this thread during the WC. So as you pointed out, its an old issue, and don't expect it to change, at least until WC2014  (VDB has renewed until 2014).And you may also find part of the explanation (not necessarily mean it's the answer) in here. Gotta disagree. Following the disappointments, in WC2010, I don't think he is giving a good shout for himself with his performances in this tournament. IMO, there are only 2 players whose places are indisputable in the starting 11; Casillas and Iniesta. Yang lain, whether need to be dropped (mainly because of clashes of roles, like Xavi-Busquets-Xabi, not because of poor performance), or roles need to be altered.  |
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Jun 19 2012, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 19 2012, 10:42 PM) Oh do not expect anything from me. I thought Torres is completely useless, but then he scored a brace against the almighty Ireland, then everybody said he is slowly back to his best, and I'm proven wrong Maybe u can talk about what barca96 has voiced out. All the possession thing, and with so many midfielders and stuffs. And how spain performed. About the torres thing, I'm sure everyone had the same thoughts as well. But he turned out to be a magica against ireland? This post has been edited by mrkenn: Jun 19 2012, 10:48 PM |
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Jun 20 2012, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Jun 19 2012, 10:49 PM) iinm he wasnt very much involved at all in wc10 as he is in euro12 It's more like he has done well against ireland...not entire tourney i honestly think he has done well this tournament  This post has been edited by mrkenn: Jun 20 2012, 09:45 PM |
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Jun 20 2012, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Jun 20 2012, 10:14 PM) he was poor against italy and crotia? Why are u asking me? U said he has done well this tourney meaning u have watched him playing all the games so far right? lol He didnt even start against italy. And yes he was poor against croatia. |
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Jun 20 2012, 10:40 PM
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Mistake i thought u were talking about torres wtf lol sorry.
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Jun 20 2012, 11:03 PM
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Yes silva very dangerous....iniesta as well...these 2 can rip any defenders
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Jul 3 2012, 10:37 PM
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Where r the torres doubters? lol.
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