Here is the new game look like dota developed by S2Games. Will it be Dota2.0?

www.heroesofnewerth.com

Currently preorder available for close beta player only! $30 per account for whole time. No more addition fee nor monthly fee.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTLgQbYVISA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ1VFN4mP4M
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Heroes-of-Newerth/63037549101

This post has been edited by diehard1979: Sep 10 2009, 04:44 PM

wrong place

your place is here http://forum.lowyat.net/Warcraft3

It is not belong to warcraft3 engine so I not put at there.
It is new engine.

ftw...its awesome...what game is this??izzit under W3 or other company???
the graphic and sound is awesome man.....

wth... another game that copied dota's idea..?
but tbh, the map really looks the same as the current dota map :S
even the fonts wow.

This post has been edited by Hell Fire: Jun 21 2009, 02:52 PM

Its the Same thing

1st demigod, now this. shit, our country will be filled with dotards infected

I like the word infected.

Dont forget LoL,League of LosersLegends.

Infected? I thought we were drowning with dotards dota player.

see, like i predicted.... alot anti-dotard.... the flame will go on...

that y i advice post in W3 section instead

This post has been edited by Edison83: Jun 21 2009, 06:49 PM

I play dota. But the people who really nut about it. I just hate it.

You know, sometimes I wonder what DotA players want.

"Hey man, I wish there were more games like DotA."

"Hmm....You tried Demigod then?"

"Hell no man, it probably sucks trying to rip off DotA."

___

Not saying it applies to all DotA players, but still.

I feel that after this game release, there will be some part of dota player will sure convert to this game.
I know this game has a lot feature than cannot done in current dota due to warcraft3 engine. These are the things that attract the dota player to there.
Those people that frustrated to current dota will mostly switch to it.

LMAO

Keep the anti-Dota hate out ppl...


Anyway, there's a special place in my heart for S2Games (But not big enough for me to care about the sequel and the fact that everyone from the original team left), so I want to ensure that no unnecessary bashing goes on in this thread.

from the youtube videos, this game looks good.

but, to my knowledge, what made dota appealing was the constant free updates?

kinda like unlimited DLC lol

are the developers able to do that?

Soon will be open beta, anyone that interested can register on facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Heroes-of-Ne...37549101?flyingspaghettimonster=nf

oo the graphic seem not bad, might give it a try

Finally the news leaked out. It's IceFrog the head developer. He commented that W3 engine doesn't really suit DotA REAL gameplay. Nah whatever, it really is a DotA version 2.

But it's still Closed beta, only a few people are able to test the demos.

This post has been edited by syNcv9: Jul 7 2009, 02:52 AM

lol they finally moved out to thier own engines.
before this League of Legends was guinsoo's right?


Chow

No idea about LoL. But this new game will be almost exactly like DotA except their engines, even though graphic almost the same. The Luna damn awesome xD. Tiny also damn huge @@

if it's good game, i will play.

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Jul 7 2009, 02:26 PM

I played it, it's good, the graphic owns. I have invites for posts number 44 and 52! go go go!

This is not /b/

u sure ice frog is 1 of the team?

http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread....47254#post47254

Open Beta Soon. Look at facebook.
They say :"
When we hit 10,000 fans we will open up our beta to all our facebook friends. I know that number seems big but consider the fact that we've grown almost 3000 friends in less than a week. I am guessing we could be there in 10 days. Let's do it! "

Im on the beta...but sadly the server is in the us and I cant seem to find any local server...
anyone here knows a malaysian server/channel?

the best ping I could get from the us server is 300, and its unplayable....

eh. got local server ah?

how is it like one?

one player host and the rest join in?

he's obviously a troll...=.=
dont believe him la...
the beta keys are so hard to get now, got mine from competition

the first 2000 invites or so,
they got 8 more invites.
the second batch got 2-4 invites.
thats why they can create game locally and play with friends.

It seems that I'm the last batch that dont get to invite others...
and Im stuck here playing with myself...haha


if anyone knows any local channel/server, do tell me.
maybe the first batch person and his friends

This post has been edited by sirknieghf: Jul 15 2009, 04:07 PM

oic. basically if we have sufficient number of local players with beta keys we can play among ourselves oh?

i know frags got a few keys.

not sure if he still got 'em or not.

I don't mind if you don't believe me. I still have 3 close beta invites. The best server right now is the USWEST servers, I'm getting like 219ms and it doesn't lag for me.Besides, if you accidently DC, you can rejoin the game that you dc'ed, It's really nifty and useful. There's also a counter and stats so you can check if a person has left many games, his Kill:Death Ratio, Banlist ETC. I got my invite from an online friend. It's not hard to get if you know your people, I got 2-3 malaysian friends who are playing in the server right now from my invites. It needs more, and I'm giving. I can't post screenies since i must obey the NDA(Non disclosure agreement) a.k.a T&C.

I'll give invites, but you must fulfill my requirements. Don't believe me it's your lost.

why u cant post screenie when the game video is already leaked out in youtube?

beta testers must abide the Non Disclosure Agreement. :

i wan to make a try, but wat can i do now?

does it mean we dont need warcraft 3 copy , can play full free and dl free?

FREE BETA KEYZ
http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com/weU7sxvv9A...zU/facebook.php

I should rightly have one, after all, I paid (lol) for Savage 2 :/

I heard HoN was a starcraft 2 map?

oooh naise.

facebook fans can get beta keys now.

who wanna play play?

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Added on July 18, 2009, 10:15 amyay i ish downloading the client now.

so who else has this game?

jom let's meet up in a steam group chat room and play

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Jul 18 2009, 10:15 AM

Mana download the client?
Link pl0x.

fuiyoh.

you must become facebook fan.

then u apply for key

then u register as beta tester

then u log in

then you download

NDA has been lifted slightly, I can talk about it but not post pics/vids.

Just played a game. Seems quicker than dota for some reason. Most of the heroes/items are the same, just with different names so it may take some getting used to.

Graphics are obviously better. There is now an anti-leaver system. So if you leave too many games, be prepared to be blacklisted. If the majority of your team leaves, you can leave without a penalty. No point in wasting any time.

Netcode I can say, is pretty damn good. Played with 300 ping and there seems to be no lag at all.

Can I has beta invites?

Just go to the link in the previous page.

This post has been edited by Zephro: Jul 18 2009, 10:09 PM

Erhm how long does it take to check nickname.. been forever...

join the facebook group to get the key.

who else is playing?

network code damn good?

300ms ping and still playable?

and yeah, it loads very fast too.

graphics much better than warcraft iii

plus the client is less than 300mb

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Added on July 18, 2009, 10:41 pmi only tried single player.

as in i hosted a game myself to check out the graphics, animations.

definitely reminds you about warcraft iii

but faster, smoother animation.

characters and items got different names

but the stats are still the same.

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Jul 18 2009, 10:41 PM

So I just become a fan of the group and wait for the keys?

http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com/weU7sxvv9A...zU/facebook.php

get your key here

The heroes in this game ruin it for me.. the graphics reconnection and animations are great though

no drow ranger?
my fav character

This post has been edited by kazexx: Jul 19 2009, 11:03 AM

what do you mean by ruin it for you?

oi. non disclosure agreement.

cannot post pictures! :

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Added on July 19, 2009, 11:02 amwho got play?

come we compile a list of hon lyn players and we meet up in a steam group chat room for a game one day.

my account name is

DeimosTA

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Jul 19 2009, 11:02 AM

oopss..sorry...edited

downloading now just got an invite from a friend...if its anything like DOTA community i will stop playing it...no point playing with ah bengs

Invite limit reached ):

SOrry noob.. This game multiplayer only? No singleplayer?

only multiplayer...i played 1 round i would say the players in HON is nothing like DOTA players so far but need to get used to some of the new interface, items and hotkeys though

This post has been edited by Pro-MX: Jul 19 2009, 06:59 PM

let us lyn hon players play together

what are your account names?

mine is

DeimosTA

They no longer giving keys ):

oh. no more keys for facebook fans?

sadly no
So im waiting for some friends invite

how to invite?

how to know if you got invites?

log into the website and see?

i just tried a 1 vs 1.

my ping ish rike 500ms

i use pudge. or devourer his new name

the other guy use scout, some new hero i think.

i dun feel any lag.

the network code this good ah?

i ate him.

PM me ur email add for invites

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Added on July 20, 2009, 1:25 amlimit: You have reached your invite limit.

Sry..

This post has been edited by shumaky: Jul 20 2009, 01:25 AM

oooh. i have reached my invite limit.

oi.

oi.

share your usernames la.

mine is DeimosTA

IGN : windboy
yea the net code is not bad, but sometimes i do get lag, maybe is my stupid connections.

since the NDA havent lifted yet, so i won't give comment and review for the gameplay.
well it's annoying for old dota players as they have to relearn all the items, heroes, skills, shop categories name.

Graphic is ok, the new engine do support something that w3 engine can't

i'm wondering how much market share can HoN gets from DOTA after they fully official published. It's pointless to switch to HoN if majority Malaysians still playing dota

This post has been edited by windboy: Jul 20 2009, 11:34 AM

eh. NDA not lifted, but we can talk about the game, right.

just cannot post media.

that is what i saw when i click agree on the non disclosure agreement

you played 5 vs 5?

so far i tried out 2 rounds of 1 vs 1

2nd round i conceded as i was going out.

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Added on July 20, 2009, 2:07 pmnot all items made it back into the game though.

new variable called magic armor introduced too.

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Jul 20 2009, 02:07 PM

yea played few rounds 5v5, actually there are some "new" heroes that combine few dota hero into one at HoN.
i like the system where if you dc half way the game, you can join back in a limited time, as we know tmnutz provided us crappy internet, frequent dc usually which all malaysians are facing.
the gameplay is ok thou, still need alot tweaks, those flashy fancy skills animation sometimes may block or distract our vision.
some skill animation that made it very hard to spot, example like axe battle roar, in w3 dota the animation kinda bright and big size, but compare with HoN.... you will know what i mean if you tried

This post has been edited by windboy: Jul 20 2009, 02:45 PM

still cant post pics? lol...i wanna see some SS le.

How's the game going?
Can discuss the difference with DotA? If not, that's okay.

can discuss, just cannot post media.

difference?

loads much faster.

feels like standalone dota.

graphics, animations, effects nicer.

shop, recipe interface much better, cleaner, faster.

pick heroes menu better.

skills hotkey better.

systems better
leavers countermeasure better

i just dislike those fancy flashy skills animation, it's totally will distract and block the vision, make the gameplay much more confuse and chaos compare with dota

@windboy:
lol maybe that is a new skill that needs to be learned?

get used to the fancy effects or get pwned lol

nice graphic but the sound chui chui chui piu piu piu tutu tutu tutu piow piow piow

aye.

basically if can get 300ms ping considered lag free, for 1 vs 1 games.

i ish enjoice playing pudge or devourer.

the grappling hook is much better now.

Lowyat.net just scored 500 beta keys for the game. Should be hearing something about that soon. :V

As a direct comparison to DotA, it is practically better in every way other than the fact that DotA has been around for years and has a hero count and balance to reflect that.

Of course, the simple fact remains that whatever DotA has, HoN can eventually adapt and emulate, while the reverse isn't true just by virtue of being locked to the WC3 engine.

Definitely a game to be watching out for.

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Added on July 21, 2009, 4:02 amUpdate: Uh oh, due to a communication boo boo, those invites may have been sent to a regular poster instead of staff/administration. All 500 of them.

Hang on aaaaaa

Edit edit: Keys are safe, false alarm. Happy days ahead!

This post has been edited by Falk: Jul 21 2009, 09:25 AM

what's up with the lyn 500 keys? O_O

yea, they still need some tweaking for the new hero, kinda imbalance i think according from my pass year dota experience,
example the mad man, scout and another fairies hero( not sure about the name, but i know she can aoe stun, aoe heal, aoe dmg and mass teleport to any location)

Scout seems fine other than the fact his vanish costs waa-aay too little mana meaning he can be perma-invis while whittling down opponent's HP (though opponent not having True Sight = his own fault). Also the extra damage from vanish affects buildings, which is dumb. The only reason he seems like a really strong ganker is the fact other mid-game gank heroes like Bounty Hunter (who is similar to Scout) and Nerubian Assassin aren't in the game. If those two were already ported you'd hear Scout b****ing a lot less exclusively.

Madman's recent rework made him ridiculous. Barrel Roll is completely stupid along with the fact that his ult is >50% uptime. At least he's easier to control early-game with his stat growth nerf, and a lot of the time if he gets fat the opposite team really only have themselves to blame.

Nymphoria seems fine. AOE stun takes careful positioning to utilize fully (You want the backswing to stun when they're coming out of the first stun), the AOE heal, which also damages any enemies in the radius btw, takes time to go off. Mass-teleport is anything but - it teleports only herself and 1/2 heroes (rank 2/3).

Some of the other heroes, however, are completely hilarious. Dark Lady with Battlefury, for example, can mow anything down (the charge-AOE deals melee attacks to everything it hits, complete facerape with Battle Fury. Puppet Master has more CC options than Rhasta/Pollywog, Electrician is harder to kill than 5.84c Medusa when he gets stuff like Bloodstone/Sac Stone.

Some of the tweaks to existing heroes are also over the top. Omniknight/Jereziah's degen aura replacement has to be the single most imbalanced non-ultimate ever - bonus damage on attack + 100% splash every once in a while, which slows.

Griping about balance aside, a lot of heroes, especially the melee ones, are easier to play. Treant Protector/Keeper of the Forest, for example, has a much less absurd melee attack animation, along with a replacement for armor/regen ability which now allows him to pick up a tree for bonus damage - much easier to LH/deny at the start of the game.

Considering this is still closed beta and the game really has been played only 2 months so far without much competitive level input, they've come a long way.

Edit: Removed obsolete info. Oops!

This post has been edited by Falk: Jul 21 2009, 02:47 PM

from a few games of 1 vs 1, the jezziah. modified omniknight.

kinda over powered. well, in 1 vs 1 games.

can solo creeps at low level. O_O

if he gets in between the towers he can kill off all the creeps by himself while the creeps on his team tear down the towers.

played the game for the first time.. very very impressed with the new graphics engine... Overall the whole thing looks very polished and well made..

Can't say the same for the heroes though, lots of balancing required. Luna aka dunnohatsthenameingame is way overpowered.. able to kill 3 ppl with lvl 2 4th skill...

level 2 4th skill ?

you mean a level 2 ultimate at character level 11 is it?

well ultimates are meant to be powerful.

if you play pudge aka devourer and play the match long enough, consuming many creeps and heroes, your health and strength will grow to epic proportions.

yea... lvl 11 ultimate..

well.. it's just way overpowered.. one ulti, all 3 dies..

seems like some one is not following the non disclosure agreement.

found these images while googling for heroes of newerth images via google images.

lol at the domain name. leakerz.com


a much, much better shop interface. needs moar items though.


combat?


image too dark i cannot see what is happening


...

eh, non disclosure agreement means we cannot post media, means screen shots, videos etc.

but what about images already leaked onto the internet such as these above?

sama juga?


This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Jul 21 2009, 03:36 PM

Which part of "cannot post" is hard to understand? :S

That's -exactly- like Luna.
Lucent Beam - 75/150/225/300
Eclipse - 4/7/10 hits

This post has been edited by Falk: Jul 21 2009, 03:57 PM

I believe even discussing the beta here goes against their TOS. Most betas only allow participants to post their feedback of impressions on the beta board of that game. They do not allow discussion of betas on forums outside their own.



So for those that have formed their opinion of the beta and have feedback, use the games beta boards rather than posting impressions here. It will help them as well as avoid people from forming unfair opinions of what is essentially a work in progress. It is unfair to 'review' a beta.

We can wait for the final version/demo to come out before writing reviews/impressions for others to view.

Post your impressions and feedback here please:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/

This post has been edited by frags: Jul 21 2009, 04:08 PM

level 2 ultimate, shoot 7 lucent beams.

each beam 300 damage?

heroes have base 24.8% magic damage reduction

300 x 0.752 = 225.6 damage per hit

226 x 7 = 1582 total damage

maybe the 3 heroes's total life was way lesser than 1582, hence the orgy death?

Just to clarify re: the currently implemented beta conditions



@Above: so the question now is... what were 3 heroes with 500hp each (at lv11?) doing away from creeps/towers if Luna is around? Heh. :V

This post has been edited by Falk: Jul 21 2009, 04:11 PM

falk,

i think they wanted to have a foursome with luna but instead got their arses shoved up full of moon beams.

Anyone still got extra beta key? Really interested to try out this game. =x

This post has been edited by Fawkes: Jul 21 2009, 04:38 PM

I'm looking for a beta key too , no luck in getting the facebook fans key ...

yea i need extra one too for my friend

oi. what are your in game names la?

mine is DeimosTA

add me.

let's make a list.

i though i posted my IGN?
same as my name

i need a beta key!!

Apa ni bising-bising

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