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Health [MEDICAL SCAM] Pusat Rawatan Keraton (Updated), Miracle Surgery Scam!! UPDATED 25/10/15

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post Aug 17 2010, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(ketuekampong @ Jun 18 2010, 03:39 AM)
why should i embarrased..?yeah i know my english is bad..but im still not dumb like u..my dad doing this business almost 30 years old..still steady n still many customers want see my dad...y are u jealous..?i dare u just come here and see with your eyes..dont always hoo-haa hoohaa only =) where are u know..?just come here la and i cant wait want record your face seeing my father do surgery infront of you =) when you want to come..?look..i see your comment said you in india..?ok i wait you come here =) ..if u all hear only one side that not make a sense..just come and see with your eyes..yeah that my myspace and fb..why..?you want do me popular or what..?hihihi thanks anyway..then add me =) "kid"


Added on June 18, 2010, 3:41 am
oh you sure is a FAKE like you said..?

then see with your eyes..come sentol.. =)


Added on June 18, 2010, 3:58 ami know my father was doing right..for help people..and you just like "jealous" n cant do what my father do..many all of them patient is now already fully healed..many of ppl already see infront there eyes..my father give them all record because want people know that not a cheat or scam like cybersetaniroojim said..why you always talked like a kid..?just come here and see with your eyes..?is up to you want believe it or not..but you mistake..want make a conclusion without investigate..just come here and investigate your self..if want the truth..if you always hoo-haahoohaa~..if them all dont want do surgery with my dad just nevermind la~coz many of them already trust my dad because my dad is the truth..many video is already record with patient's nearest cousin..not from me or someone else..and many prove of this video is the truth..is up to you want to believe it or not..if u all believe in surgery modern just go to the modern..and dont ruined my family business..cause you all dont know anything because u all only like a kid..just come to sentul and see with your eyes..wasted my time to chit chat with setanirojim u know..?dont wasted your time with your jealousy..wated your time to talk like this..i dare you all just come and see the truth..dont make a conclusion like you all "very genius man" .. weee peace setan..! =)


Added on June 18, 2010, 4:14 amyou want to compare with modern and traditional..?sure you just like dr insane..i dont know want to call u a low brain or what..haizzz...only wasted your time with MMC blah blah blah~like kesha sing u know..?if your dad got sick setan...just come to my dad..i give you low price or free only.. =) peace setan..haizz..talk with setan is hard..just like im talk with a kid..always want win without investigate..hihihihi..anyway kid..21/6 you going school or not..?i hope you not truancy =) u need more learn kid..try to learn investigate 1st then make a conclusion..not before investigate you already chop my dad is a scam..?cheat..?or something else..?where are u from..?sipitang sabah..?sabah also got my father branch..heeee...u know what..?im dont want stop comment in your forum until you come here and investigate your self..and im not scared to chat in here..in public..because i know my father more than you know and more than anyone else know..think before u do this topic =) kid..peace setanirojim =)
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dude ur not embarrassed ur father is con man? not bout this bomoh stuff, but about land fraud cases lol.
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post Aug 18 2010, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(1kbps @ Aug 17 2010, 12:51 PM)
dude ur not embarrassed ur father is con man? not bout this bomoh stuff, but about land fraud cases lol.
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nope at all dude becoz i believe 100% my father do the right thing =) , so why must i suppost to shamed..?
make an appoinment..see ur self..i dun care about this post anymore but u know why..?still got patient wanna meet my father dude =) .. so who care..?want believe just believe..if u dunwant to believe u want me to do what..??kill u..?lol..hahaha..wasted my time only u know..just dunwant to believe..go to take care ur self..if u thing u do the right thing..why u dunwant meet face to face..?then ask my father..??only chitchat in here,then make only add ur sin..?about land fraud its about 15 years ago dude..i dunt care about that,but i do believe that my father is right..dude,u know all of this called what..?

JEALOUSY icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 18 2010, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(ketuekampong @ Aug 18 2010, 04:54 PM)
nope at all dude becoz i believe 100% my father do the right thing =) , so why must i suppost to shamed..?
make an appoinment..see ur self..i dun care about this post anymore but u know why..?still got patient wanna meet my father dude =) .. so who care..?want believe just believe..if u dunwant to believe u want me to do what..??kill u..?lol..hahaha..wasted my time only u know..just dunwant to believe..go to take care ur self..if u thing u do the right thing..why u dunwant meet face to face..?then ask my father..??only chitchat in here,then make only add ur sin..?about land fraud its about 15 years ago dude..i dunt care about that,but i do believe that my father is right..dude,u know all of this called what..?

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It's ok, dude.

They'll be meeting your father soon.
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post Aug 19 2010, 06:52 AM

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haha lawak gler dr giler power nie , bedah jantung senang gler, ingat tulang manusai tu lembut cam kapas,
ade org tu ngaku medical student... ts tye mane blaja xjwb?
thx share ts.

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post Aug 19 2010, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ketuekampong @ Aug 18 2010, 04:54 PM)
nope at all dude becoz i believe 100% my father do the right thing =) , so why must i suppost to shamed..?
make an appoinment..see ur self..i dun care about this post anymore but u know why..?still got patient wanna meet my father dude =) .. so who care..?want believe just believe..if u dunwant to believe u want me to do what..??kill u..?lol..hahaha..wasted my time only u know..just dunwant to believe..go to take care ur self..if u thing u do the right thing..why u dunwant meet face to face..?then ask my father..??only chitchat in here,then make only add ur sin..?about land fraud its about 15 years ago dude..i dunt care about that,but i do believe that my father is right..dude,u know all of this called what..?

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jealousy? lol. dude, i just saying bout land fraud, not about bomoh stuff, because that thing i never believe in it. no matter what 15 years ago or 1000 years ago, fraud still fraud rite?
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post Aug 21 2010, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 18 2010, 05:59 PM)
It's ok, dude.

They'll be meeting your father soon.
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yeah..fast2 meet..then open eyes n mind.. smile.gif
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Added on August 17, 2010, 10:23 am Update - Claim by victims (more will be added) - see 1st page:

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atisnuna wrote on Jul 15, '08

Source: http://atisnuna.multiply.com/

"Salam....

Maaf kerana saya lewat membalas msg ni...untuk pengetahuan semua, emak & nenek saya telah membuat rawatan di pusat rawatan keraton di bndr baru sentol,kl pada jan 08, itupun kerana desakan dari bapa saudara yang terlalu yakin akan rawatan ini.

Untuk pengetahuan semua mak saya mengidap penyakit kanser dan nenek saya ketumbuhan didalam otak...Sampai di sana, seperti pesakit lain kami d suruh utk mengisi borang dimana borang itu terdpt pantang larang & juga perjnjian jika berlaku apa2 kita tak boleh mengambil tindakan......

pandai betul si wak raden ni kan.......so...bila kite nak saman @ report polis pun kita tak bleh la nak menang coz kite dah sain surat perjanjian tu....so sampai la giliran mak saya untuk mendapatkan rawatan....dan saudara terdekat bolehlah merakam pembedahan secara ‘live’ tu...

bapa saudara saya yg merakam pembedahan tersebut, saya hanya memerhati di luar, di tingkap kecil..memang la masa kite tngok memang Nampak real sangat2 pembedahan tu...tapi bila mak saya selesai je pembedahan tersebut..hati mak saya rasa memang tak sedap.......mak saya kata macam kene tipu hidup-hidup..coz nak tau apa yg dia buat kat mak saya dlm bilik tu...mak saya disuruh baring....

lepas tu mengucap..& mak saya kata keliling tmpt dia baring tu ada macam2 bentuk keris ada ...lepas tu si raden ni akan sapu minyak panas di tmpt yg nak dibedah tu sambil mulut dia membaca sesuatu mentera...di leher dan diperut...dia buat ni dalam keadaan mak saya sedar..lepas tu dia akan letak satu sekeping kain tebal diatas badan mak saya...ITULAH DIA PENIPUAN YG DIA BUAT..KAIN TEBAL TU LA DIA LETAK PERUT PALSU YG ADA HATI KE JANTUNG KE DAN MACAM2 LA..KONONNYA DIA NAK BELAH SECARA LIVE PERUT KITA...PADA HAL DIA DAH CIPTA PERUT PALSU DAH...so bila dia dah siap letak PERUT PALSU TU...dia akan panggil org yg nak rakam pembedahan tu masuk...

masa tu kita yg tngok ni memang la rasa real sangat......konon la dia bedah guna pisau lepas tu keluar le segala benda yg kononnya dia kata toksid dalam badan....nampakla dia selak hati....selak jantung..........kononnya real sangat la.....tapi padahal kita di tipu hidup2.......selepas pembedahan selesai kami diminta membayar sebanyak RM6260!!

Termasuk ubat apa2 entah.... bayaran tu sebab buat 2 tmpt iaitu di leher dan di perut..........tu baru mak saya.........nenek saya pun serupa....tapi ni lagi real.........siap ketuk kepala nenek dgn tukul......hahahahahaha.........kelakar betul.....kene tipu betul....mak& nenek saya memang sedar masa dia buat tu....tapi tak dengar pun apa dia buat....si raden ni dah baca dah macam2 leee...nenek saya pulak kene bayar RM3000 lebih....satu pembedahan je...cuba korang bayangkan 1 org RM3000 sehari 30 orng....sebulan dah berapa si raden ni dapat duit....tu yg dia boleh pakai kete yg berapa juta harga dia tu.....

kalu la betul2 alim kan...untuk yg sesiapa penah pegi la kan...cuba korang tngok yg jaga kauter tu...pakai tudung macam nak tak nak je...kat belakang kluar ekor...yg lelaki ada yg rambut panjang.........lu pk la sendiri.......so nak jadi citer...mak saya memang tak puas hati....

Genap je sebulan lepas tu mak saya pegi balik ke tempat tu...tujuan utama nak mintak balik duit RM6000 lebih tu...bila sampai giliran mak saya...apalagi....mak saya sembur la dengan macam2 kata2 kesat...macam2 la mak saya ugut.....last2 sekali wak raden pun sain la cek balik.........dia takut mak saya bawa ke tengah kes ni..dia pun tengok mak saya dia macam berani semacam je so dpt le balik duit kami.....alhamdulillah berkat rezeki yang halal kami dapat balik duit kami.........."



...more update will be added to the 1st page.

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Aug 21 2010, 10:20 PM)

Added on August 17, 2010, 10:23 am Update - Claim by victims (more will be added) - see 1st page:
...more update will be added to the 1st page.
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Nice find mate.... So the son of the fraud has anything else to say?
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post Aug 22 2010, 07:07 PM

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Btw, if you Google 'Pusat Rawatan Keraton' .. this thread is the first result smile.gif
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post Aug 23 2010, 01:29 AM

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its amazing what false hope and promises can do to cloud peoples judgement.
just curious, how long has this miracle treatment been going on?
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post Aug 23 2010, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(tjinn @ Aug 23 2010, 01:29 AM)
its amazing what false hope and promises can do to cloud peoples judgement.
just curious, how long has this miracle treatment been going on?
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This 'miracle surgery' has been going on for a VERY long time.....

I recall seeing a video of this 'surgery' when I was still in form 1 in Sabah when the Seni Silat Gerak Kilat came to my school to promote their martial art and that was in 1996. Of course back then I was still a dumb fool budak mentah who knows nothing of surgery/anatomy/medicine and may believe anything out of the ordinary (that is no longer the case).~ smile.gif


(JOHARI MANSOR is the founder of this Silat)

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form 1.. i'm sure we all were.. i'm actually kinda shocked now. i'm also a med student here in india like u. if i had the chance to witness his surgery i would love to.
never seen such a successful quack b4.
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post Aug 23 2010, 09:09 PM

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make sure u win bro!!! we are all on ur side!
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post Sep 30 2010, 07:17 AM

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win or lose doesnt matter dude smile.gif ..cybersetan said want come to see my father after raya rite..?wheee..when2..???let me know dude smile.gif

im sooo excited to seeing u all~

hope after u see,i need interview 1 by one..can..?what to know what they feel..?hee smile.gif neway SELAMAT HARI RAYA MAAF ZAHIR & BATIN too all muslim..
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QUOTE(ketuekampong @ Sep 30 2010, 07:17 AM)
win or lose doesnt matter dude smile.gif ..cybersetan said want come to see my father after raya rite..?wheee..when2..???let me know dude smile.gif

im sooo excited to seeing u all~

hope after u see,i need interview 1 by one..can..?what to know what they feel..?hee smile.gif neway SELAMAT HARI RAYA MAAF ZAHIR & BATIN too all muslim..
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I'm not even in Malaysia right now and I never said I'll be seeing your father after raya.

That will be initiated by Mahaguru58 (Zainol Abideen) and Dr.Amir Farid Isahak (Gynecological surgeon) after raya.

Zainol Abideen (Mahaguru58): http://www.blogger.com/profile/00936004838086652680
Dr. Amir Farid Isahak: http://www.blogger.com/profile/04013618759955206438

Lets recap what have been stated:

Claim by a patient:
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Challenge by Dr.Amir Farid Isahak (a TRUE SURGEON) to "Dr" Johari Mansor (a QUACK):

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and the offer by Mahaguru58 to go investigate this "Pusat Rawatan Keraton" after raya:

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Added on September 30, 2010, 11:17 am
QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 22 2010, 07:07 PM)
Btw, if you Google 'Pusat Rawatan Keraton' .. this thread is the first result smile.gif
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Indeed it is, just google "Pusat Rawatan Keraton" or "Johari Mansor" or even "Raden Muszamir" (aka Ketuekampong son of Johari Mansor)...

It will show this thread as amongst the first few top results in google.

That "Pusat Rawatan Keraton" now doesn't even have its own website since they have brought it down.


...however this can be found:

http://pusatrawatankeraton.blogspot.com/20...an-keraton.html

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This news is somewhat related:

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Published: Friday October 1, 2010 MYT 6:50:00 PM

Kelantan folk prefer bomoh for cancer treatment

KOTA BARU: The people in Kelantan prefer going to traditional medicine practitioners or bomoh for cancer treatment rather than doctors at government hospitals.

Health Ministry's medical development director, Datuk Dr Azmi Shapie, said it was because of that the condition of cancer patients worsened.

"For example in the case of breast cancer. Many women who suffer from it have some swelling of about 1 to 2cm. They are confirmed cancer patients and the hospital wants them to go for treatment, like chemotherapy, etc.

"Many of them say they want to go home first and discuss with their family, but the truth is they go to see the bomoh," he told reporters after the Malaysian Oncology Association Annual Scientific Congress here Friday.

He said there were various treatments offered by traditional medicine practitioners, purportedly to cure cancer, like massage to make the swelling disappear, without the patients realising that such a treatment could worsen their condition.

Dr Azmi said there was no proof that traditional medicine or massage could cure cancer.

"When their situation worsens or has reached a critical stage, they come to see the doctors at the hospitals, but by then it it often too late," he added. - Bernama


source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...5855&sec=nation



no wonder quacks continue to flourish~

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Salam,

About 2 weeks ago a friend of mine introduced me to this "interesting" alternative medical practice of Pusat Rawatan Keraton because I refused to go for a simple conventional rhinitis surgery. In 1997 I walked away Dr Chan's clinic in Pantai Medical Center, KL because he does not want to treat or see me again if I don't agree to go for the simple surgery. From then on till to date, I only visit ENT specialist who wanted to treat me without surgery. Thus I have been suffering every now and then from my seasonal acute sinusitis.

However after seeing the videos at youtube, I have real doubt about Pusat Rawatan Keraton for two reasons
(1) 'Dr' Johari does not need to 'perform' such 'surgeries' if he is a real practitioner of 'faith healer' - in my opinion those 'surgeries' discredited him more as everybody knows they are not real surgeries and I am sure if the patients were not covered by the green cloth, we can all see what he was operating on; and
(2) a faith healer "normally" has a totally different approach from conventional medical practitioners - thus why all the surgeries. I have visited Darul Syifa which is directly managed by Dr Harun Din and experienced it for myself.

I believe in alternative medicine and miracles as there a many things in this world that science cannot explain (being a muslim I also believe that Allah is the ultimate and the decider - however Allah also ask us to seek help and medical attention). I have also visited many other alternative medical practitioners around KL and it is interesting to experience and understand their different approaches to human well being. However, I don't think I will visit Pusat Rawatan Keraton because I don't know what 'Dr' Johari is doing as to me he is neither a medical doctor nor a faith healer.

Since 'Dr' Johari has operated on many people over the past 30 years, it would be good if we can get information on at least 50% of all his patients and do a compilation of patients condition of health before and after surgery (to be attested by conventional medical practitioners).

I would also like to thank 'Cybersetan" for starting this forum.


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i think this fella use genie (jin) to do their job. or they just cheat to the people using techniques.

let me remind u, if the this so called Dr using jin which is not using Al-Quran or Islam ways, this will lead to syirik. which is a very big sin for muslim people.

this should be stop if it is a scam.
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It seems that Mahaguru58 have removed everything regarding Pusat Rawatan Keraton from both his blog and youtube. In my opinion, I believe that he already realized that he was wrong about Pusat Rawatan Keraton and Johari Mansor, but too proud to admit it openly.

However, thanks to GOOGLE CACHE, a copy of the blog is still available online:

http://www.mediafire.com/?mm7bq1ocd595ad1

So much for his - "THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD SO THAT JUSTICE CAN LIVE - (his motto... apparently)

Fortunately, I have saved the video clips prior to the above. I have re-uploaded them for the benefit of those interested in such scam.





I have also embedded these videos in the first page of this topic.

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see magic summoree..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XO10rsRm6M&feature=related

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