yes... i agree with what rarap says... we need prove... prove me that i'm wrong... not just by simply saying come to sentul...
it's hard to believe just like that because same thing happen before in malaysia about this sort of thing called magic healer...







This post has been edited by pqweb: Jun 20 2010, 05:42 AM

how to prove if u dont come to branch..? =)

if u really2 need proove just come watch n see urself...is that simple is it..?

ok see ya..

cybersetan..

i dont know y u hate my dad..

but i forgive u =)

neway u can just come take a piece prove 1st ok..

and if u all want proove just make an appoint at sentul branch..

ok.. =) see ya..

so when's the trip..(i'm in sabah so might need pre-arrangement)? Maybe I'll try to bring some medico-lego friends along so that we may arrest him on the spot if need be

oh my! clicked on cyberskull siggy only found out.

those scissor ..........lolz wth.... got sterilize ?

1st time I see people use those stationary scissor to cut meat stuff...

even cooking, we also don't use those stuff.

This johari is a joker. I wonder how much he make per month?

KPJ Ipoh Specialist - Dato' Dr. S Jenagaratnam drove a S - class merc + 2 BMW + 1 Alphard.

You are most welcomed. It is important that matter such as this be constantly reminded so that the people can remain vigilant against health frauds not only in Malaysia but the rest of the world as well.

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Added on June 27, 2010, 7:40 pmwell... Charlatans make a lot of money from those swindled by them. However, the blame is not theirs alone, the lack of peoples' awareness regarding current quackeries is partly responsible as well.

One can judge for oneself if a treatment is quack or not.

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Added on June 27, 2010, 7:44 pmUnfortunately, as I mentioned before, I am currently in India and it will be another 1.5+ years before I'm back in Malaysia for good.
Your enthusiasm in this matter is appreciated.

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Jun 27 2010, 07:44 PM

wah. got people scamming like this. its all coz the general crowd out there. they're willing to believe in miracles and magic so easily. that's why cases like this can happen. this is really a disgrace as i'm in the medical field as well(still student) .

The bigger joke is that we are letting this happen and are powerless against it. MMA has no authority over him coz he's not a registered doctor. Pharmacy enforcement can't do anything as long as he does not possess controlled medicines. The is liable under the penal code for fraud, but the police are not doing anything.

u r right cybersetan..
totally fake..This guy been caught because of fraud..
his a professional fraudster..
claim to have phd, qualified chemist, dato' and all the title are scam..
save your money guys...trust me.i live near his place...
his well known by our residents as a professional fraudster..
TOO ALL MALAYSIAN, especially the malay community.dont let urself being fool by him...
Believe in GOD not those who get profit (rm2000-3000) from u with this medical crap..

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Added on July 24, 2010, 5:15 amthe trick of the psychic surgery..
watch this video,then you all know how they do it...
people become a wealthy rich by being a con...
poor and pity to those who have been spending for this medical crap..
this tecniques have been famous in phillipines before..
GOD have given us brain to think....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBvdcy_Mi34

This post has been edited by hem: Jul 24 2010, 05:15 AM

Well, the first thing you can do to prove your father's qualification is to show us prove that he obtain his PhD and medical degree. Perhaps by showing those 2, your argument may be more credible.

those in the videos were just fake or the people were fake to help him promote?


may be just wait the korean video guys like they did on the one that using electric/eggs to scam, to find out the truth of fake

This post has been edited by jack2: Jul 24 2010, 02:53 PM

Testimoni Pengalaman Benar Keluarga saya di kenakan bayaran RM10,000.00
untuk pembedahan serupa dilakukan diatas yang sebenarnya tak ubah
seperti sebuah SET-UP pembikinan drama. Bila kami dipanggil masuk ke bilik
pembedahan itu, segala permainannya sudah diatur untuk ditayangkan.
Kami tidak dibenarkan menyentuh apa-apa tapi saya yang was-was dgn
pertunjukan itu sempat mengambil dan menyorokkan sampel cebisan daging
yang dipotong, kami hanya dapat melihat separuh jalan sahaja, kemudian kami
diarah keluar dari bilik itu, dan apabila selesai kami membawa ahli keluarga kami
(pesakit) keluar dari klinik tersebut dan semakin keliru apabila kami dapati
cebisan daging itu tadi bukan daging tetapi sesuatu yang lain dan bukan daging,
dan darah yang ada pada daging itu pula tidak menjadi kering tetapi masih melekit, berminyak
dan bukan darah. Saya percaya ramai yang terpegun dan sudah terpedaya dan menjadi
mangsa penipuan dan kehabisan banyak wang kepadanya tetapi tidak mahu melaporkan
kepada pihak polis kerana khuatir atau malu digelar "kalut" atau percaya kepada "tahyul" bomoh.
Johari Mansor ini sudah ditangkap polis dan dia sedang didakwa kerana menipu.

JOHARI MANSOR - KERATON - MENGANIAYA NAMA ISLAM
Testimoni Pengalaman Benar Keluarga saya di kenakan bayaran RM10,000.00untuk pembedahan serupa dilakukan diatas yang sebenarnya tak ubah seperti sebuah SET-UP pembikinan drama. Bila kami dipanggil masuk ke bilik pembedahan itu, segala permainannya sudah diatur untuk ditayangkan.
Kami tidak dibenarkan menyentuh apa-apa tapi saya yang was-was dgn pertunjukan itu sempat mengambil dan menyorokkan sampel cebisan daging yang dipotong, kami hanya dapat melihat separuh jalan sahaja, kemudian kami diarah keluar dari bilik itu, dan apabila selesai kami membawa ahli keluarga kami(pesakit) keluar dari klinik tersebut dan semakin keliru apabila kami dapati cebisan daging itu tadi bukan daging tetapi sesuatu yang lain dan bukan daging, dan darah yang ada pada daging itu pula tidak menjadi kering tetapi masih melekit, berminyak dan bukan darah. Saya percaya ramai yang terpegun dan sudah terpedaya dan menjadi mangsa penipuan dan kehabisan banyak wang kepadanya tetapi tidak mahu melaporkan kepada pihak polis kerana khuatir atau malu digelar "kalut" atau percaya kepada "tahyul" bomoh.
Johari Mansor ini sudah ditangkap polis dan dia sedang didakwa kerana menipu, mungkin dia boleh terlepas kerana banyak duit tapi yang penting dia tidak akan terlepas dari perhitungan akhirat nanti. Sungguh memalukan orang seperti ini menggunakan nama Islam dan bangsa Melayu untuk mencari kekayaan, kemudian bagi anak2nya makan! Astaghfirullah!

OMG...malaysia also got magic trick like this...WAH!!! interesting.....
secret hypnotic words...in the name of ***** (censored..then ISA come)...I heal u....
I will reach your heart and pull it out as if you have no bones in between.

utter crappy bullshit....well its a total profit oriented ripoff that these people have managed to con and cheat their way through.
most likely those certificates that's from indon was paid for and bought...nowadays dato titles are on the market...
give the right amount of money and you can get one. has anyone seen Sami Velu's educational credentials? totally awesome.
Same goes for this crap here. Good thing that you raised it up TS. Awesome magic tricks in display....
should send the Masked Magician to reveal the tricks in breaking the magicans code!!...hahaha...

well wat to do...as they say...bapa borek, anak rintik...bapa korek, anak rampas.....

please don't blame the religion, but blame the person/practitioner.

All religion told the follower to do good things, it just the person it self who do the bad things.

well i agree with you...its not the religion...but the people/person/practitioner/preachers....they are the abuser...
religions are there for a reason, to guide u to the rite path. but these fanatics...and worst fanatics are found here in Malaysia...
have misused this and have reap tonz of profit under the religion's name.

but with these people hiding behind the name of their religion and god, what can others do. spreading the word of their malpractice also can indirectly turn to become a racial war...again with fanatics driving the up the wrong reasons. Then with our beloved government, no point for me to continue here....

yeee.. so geli

this scam centre are already close or not?

I think i'll make it simple for my Malay Muslim friends that still "atas pagar"

1) I love truth
2) Islam is true
3) I love Islam

So don't be afraid to ask for proof when people claim certain things. Of course they will question your faith or some crap but like I said, I love TRUTH. It applies to all

So please don't get back talked by these scammers. Hold your ground and deny these fakers

or

Become a faker yourself and scam people money. Just don't forget to treat all the LYN members when u get rich

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This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Dec 2 2010, 11:16 AM

Some people are misunderstanding the concept of 'faith healing' and 'alternative medicine'. Believing in Allah s.w.t. is as simple as praying to Him religiously. Believe that Allah swt will help you get through this ordeal. It might work as everything is in God's hand.

But modern/alternative medicine interferes that a little. People come and believe in the doctor/bomoh, not Allah swt! There's a difference to that. The placebo effect might still take effect and cure some simple illness but chronic ones are somewhat impossible.

Those are merely my point of view but next would be the hard evidence.

The so called alternative medicine usually involves traditional medicine and bomoh. No physical interaction is done other than touching the patient themselves. But in this case, it is clear he cut open a person. There is no miracle in this world that a scar wouldn't develop afterward. Heck in the 'open hear surgery', he took out a part and shove it back in and hopes it connects back? That is plain illogical. I'm not going to deny faith healing but faith healing DOES NOT break the law of this world. No such thing as a miracle of a scar disappearing after being cut open or an organ miraculously reconnects after being shoved back in. Plus where in the world is the ribs? He doesn't have a rib or something? This kind of 'miracle' does not exist during the Prophet's time nor will it now. It will never exist.