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NicJolin
post Jun 20 2009, 04:19 PM

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We are still having evolution. Most probably the stage of human being would be getting a larger brain and a smaller 'the rest of the body'.

We're emphasizing on mental intelligence more than physical strength
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post Jun 20 2009, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 20 2009, 04:34 PM)
if it involves engineering, it's not evolution. smile.gif
mental intelligence? does that mean there's such thing as physical intelligence? spiritual intelligence?

regardless, seeing the way you put it "emphasizing on mental intelligence more than physical strength" - AFAIK humans have always placed emphasis on the mental capacity (there's a difference between intelligence and knowledge, so i prefer to use the word mental capacity) and the head sizes have not shown to be significantly distorted than before.

in fact compare then and now, we have progressed in technology but the not-so-clever people are still a large %.

the unfortunate thing about evolution is that it's not always for the better, at least that's the way i see it. humans kind seem to be degrading.
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Erm well maybe the word intelligence should be suffice and yes the % of educated people is still very low overall and the evolution of clever / educated people might be greatly different from those uneducated ones.

Evolution is not about improving ourselves into greater lifeforms at all, as a matter of fact, it is never so. Evolution is about adapting the environment of the organism, the current culture and lifestyle of humanity requires us to utilize our brains more and so we might adapt to it by having perhaps greater memory or so. So a human that lives in jungle and feed himself by hunting wild animals could undergo evolution into something with more developed muscles and bone structures, at least that's the theory I guess~
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post Jun 21 2009, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Jun 21 2009, 08:25 AM)
i dislike this concept.. bcoz we all know the 1st human was created is Adam and then Hawa (eve)
not some monkey apes type..
and we do not evolve to be a good super human stuff..no Xmen etc..
the truth is now human become smaller than our great2 ancestor..
and our lifespan oso become shorter than them.. (100y now mean nothing..they barely can walk etc)
like Nabi Nuh A.S ..he lived for 1000 years
Namrud lived for long2 time oso and claimed he's a god bcoz he lived for too long and got .. and there bigger oso
and many more stories about this can be found.
http://smma59.wordpress.com/2006/09/12/prophet-ibrahim-as/
http://www.geocities.com/buahoren/bahtera.html

pls read here for more info..

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I'm sorry to burst ur bubble but apparently have you realize this is named 'Science lab'?
No offense to ur religious views but how do you prove Adam and Eve is the first human ...'created'? By who? By how? Suddenly pops out from the midst of air?

And according toe the average lifespan of humanity as compared to centuries ago, we live longer than ever. People usually live at most 70 averagely last time and now we're reaching 80 and 90 because of the advancement of technology which gives us immunity to diseases and improves of diets which will then lowers the mortality rate of humans.

If this is call a 'concept', then what 'concept' does your claims belongs to? Seriously Darwin's theory of evolution is the only logical theory that can explain lifes form and the there's evidence as well. I'm lazy to search up to evidence, so do a search urself if you're interested.
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post Jun 21 2009, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(styrwr91 @ Jun 21 2009, 10:41 AM)
sorry to interupt, but science doesnt exclude religious view. and please, this is a discussion forum, we should allow others to express their point of view.
and this

jst proves how narrow minded you are.
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Yea of coz he's allowed to express their point. Then I'm not allow to reply to his point? doh.gif

I might be narrow minded because apparently the other theory of the origins of humanity is just plain illogical and doesn't make any sense at all. Perhaps you could enlighten me? laugh.gif
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post Jun 21 2009, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(styrwr91 @ Jun 21 2009, 10:56 AM)
hmm...you have your point, but then religious people have their own way of proving Adam and Eve as the first human, dont you think its  bit offensive to ask Salimbest83 like this?

its quite offensive you know, at least to me. but then, darwin's theory doesnt only have human evolutions, the main theory is evolution from fish to amphibians to reptile to bird to mammal and finally human.

this might broaden the discussion scope. Its evoluton, discus all of them, im optimistic about this discussion icon_idea.gif
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Well I think I owe salimbest83 an apology then. I apologized salimbest83.

Yeap the main theory emphasizes on all organism, on how they evolve from reptile to amphibians to mammals etc. Not to humans only.

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post Jun 21 2009, 06:43 PM

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I wonder what connection do they seek? What difference do they look for in proto-humans? A tail? Hunchback-ish backbone like orangutans? Walks using arms?

C'mon like what the other had said, if u want to look for significant changes like those, its going to take couple of millions of years there. Don't think we can trace it back that long yah?
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post Jun 21 2009, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ Jun 21 2009, 07:05 PM)
that is the problem.. you cannot take some theory and turn it into fact without hard evidence and proof....
anyone could say anything, just because it take even a billion year to see it changes you claimed it to be the facts...
how could nature could be so creative.... everything fall into its pieces so precise even it take a billion year .. by randomly, using the method of try and error...... that could be fatal to each species by the end all, species ended up exterminated

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So can you take religious claims for the origin of humans as fact?

QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Jun 21 2009, 07:12 PM)
im not a religious freak..
just i believe my religious and anything that come from it..
with all i have..

and i still belive that Adam were created by Allah as a human..
not an ape.
and we were his descendent also as human..
not an ape or some small creature that turn into human..
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post Jun 23 2009, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(slacker @ Jun 23 2009, 12:35 AM)
Guys, I have a video for sharing which is closely related to this topic. http://www.qualitypeoples.com/2009/04/the-...human-evolutis/

Are we really leaping out of evolution? I think we human really leap out from the "survival fo the fittest" game. Maybe it is not a good things afterall becoz we are stagnant in the bio-physical evo aspect. This 'branching' might spells the beginning of the end of homo perhaps?

IT'S TIME TO DECONSTRUCT THOSE VARIOUS INSTITUTIONS THAT SHAPE US WHO WE ARE TODAY!!!! THIS IS SPARTA!!!!
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Hey really interesting video and really nice speech from Juan Enriquez

Might be true for what he said, technology is going to shape us instead of the environment that do.

 

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