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post Jun 20 2009, 12:26 AM, updated 17y ago

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A search on String Theory in youtube will tells u a lot.

So now, they are saying there iz 11th dimension as proven by String theory.

Which means there are actually beings so near to us but exist in the 5th dimension til 11th dimension, which is not accesible to us. Imagine sleeping on your bed, next to you is 'something' or 'someone' but it exist in the 6th dimension. If you somehow possess ability to access the 6th dimension, you can actually see this 'something' sleeping next to you and that'll really freaks you out rait?

What if, the old people saying "God is watching over you" actually means God is another living being in this universe that exist in another dimension. They can access (walk in and out) from our dimension (1-3 dimension) into their dimension (4-11 dimension) therefore they can see and hear what we are doing.

Also there were stuff about the Law of Attraction which we human being manifest our thoughts into the universe, is this somehow related to the String theory?



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post Jun 20 2009, 01:11 AM

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as explained and stressed over and over again by carl saagan, he has been fusing science and god since the first day. heres a simple explanation in layman's term.


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post Jun 20 2009, 09:43 AM

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Yes many stuff that can't be explained by science like love, God, UFOs, paranormal activities, miracles, dejavu, Leprachauns and others can be explained by String Theory.
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post Jun 20 2009, 02:54 PM

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String Theory is one of the many theories created trying to unify general relativity and quantum mechanics, 2 set of physics law that govern the universe. Universe don't run on 2 set of laws, and the laws of general relativity and quantum mechanics clashes.

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We do not really know if these extra dimension do actually exist because we can't see them. They could be fabrication of String Theory itself. If say you were given a dozen balls with different characteristic and 3 container to put them into(following a set of rules), then you realize there's a few balls that don't go into 3 of these container, you would put them into other container and mark these container as 'xyz character balls'.

4th dimension, aka time is easily accepted by us because we have something to measure time long before it became the 4th dimension. If you've read the time travel thread you'll notice that value of time only works on earth because they're value we created to reflect and make sense of the unknown in time. What time looks like exactly? Nobody actually knows.

As for God's existence in between the 5th and 11th dimension. I have my own thought but I am not going to comment. Religious people will get offended by my comments laugh.gif
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the string theory can only be applicable if Time is NOT a linear line.

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post Jun 22 2009, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(St.Fu @ Jun 20 2009, 01:11 AM)
as explained and stressed over and over again by carl saagan, he has been fusing science and god since the first day. heres a simple explanation in layman's term.


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Mr. Saagan has provided a very good analogy of our inability to comprehend the fourth dimension. I can't imagine a terrasect with lines of equal lengths and at right angles to each other.

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post Jun 22 2009, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(St.Fu @ Jun 20 2009, 01:11 AM)
as explained and stressed over and over again by carl saagan, he has been fusing science and god since the first day. heres a simple explanation in layman's term.


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This is a really good video.Further reinforce what my maths lecturer say,you cant draw anything after 3 dimensions.
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post Jun 22 2009, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(St.Fu @ Jun 20 2009, 01:11 AM)
as explained and stressed over and over again by carl saagan, he has been fusing science and god since the first day. heres a simple explanation in layman's term.


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hey nice video there !

QUOTE(SeaGates @ Jun 20 2009, 02:54 PM)
String Theory is one of the many theories created trying to unify general relativity and quantum mechanics, 2 set of physics law that govern the universe. Universe don't run on 2 set of laws, and the laws of general relativity and quantum mechanics clashes.

IMO,

We do not really know if these extra dimension do actually exist because we can't see them. They could be fabrication of String Theory itself. If say you were given a dozen balls with different characteristic and 3 container to put them into(following a set of rules), then you realize there's a few balls that don't go into 3 of these container, you would put them into other container and mark these container as 'xyz character balls'.

4th dimension, aka time is easily accepted by us because we have something to measure time long before it became the 4th dimension. If you've read the time travel thread you'll notice that value of time only works on earth because they're value we created to reflect and make sense of the unknown in time. What time looks like exactly? Nobody actually knows.

As for God's existence in between the 5th and 11th dimension. I have my own thought but I am not going to comment. Religious people will get offended by my comments laugh.gif
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please do speak out.. this is a science thread... religious comments can go somewhere else... come share ur idea wink.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jun 22 2009, 03:32 PM)
hey nice video there !
please do speak out.. this is a science thread... religious comments can go somewhere else...  come share ur idea wink.gif
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I don't believe God exist, even in the invisible extra dimensions.

God is created long ago to explain the unexplained. Religion was the first step in trying to explain 'Gods' power. Science is a evolution from religion to explain 'Gods' power. More like an improvement rather than exist to clash with religion.

The extra dimensions in String Theory are created to explain the unexplained, that's why some theory has 26 dimension and so on. We do not know the definite answer. String theory isn't the only theory trying to explain the theory of everything(where the 4 fundamental force of the universe can be united) but it's among the most popular one. We might still be wrong at the end of days. Centuries of people believed earth is the center of the universe, we believed gravity was as how newton described it.

A theory for everything is a very good prospect because it opens up an entire new field of science where general relativity + quantum mechanics are unified.


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post Jun 22 2009, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(SeaGates @ Jun 22 2009, 03:59 PM)
I don't believe God exist, even in the invisible extra dimensions.

God is created long ago to explain the unexplained. Religion was the first step in trying to explain 'Gods' power. Science is a evolution from religion to explain 'Gods' power. More like an improvement rather than exist to clash with religion.

The extra dimensions in String Theory are created to explain the unexplained, that's why some theory has 26 dimension and so on. We do not know the definite answer. String theory isn't the only theory trying to explain the theory of everything(where the 4 fundamental force of the universe can be united) but it's among the most popular one. We might still be wrong at the end of days. Centuries of people believed earth is the center of the universe, we believed gravity was as how newton described it.

A theory for everything is a very good prospect because it opens up an entire new field of science where general relativity + quantum mechanics are unified.
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Yah I do not believe God exist either... the only 'god' I believe is those supernatural force that resides in another dimension... force as in.. energy... these god particles or energy move freely between dimensions.
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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jun 22 2009, 04:25 PM)
Yah I do not believe God exist either... the only 'god' I believe is those supernatural force that resides in another dimension... force as in.. energy... these god particles or energy move freely between dimensions.
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i do not agree with you that god does not exist.
he exist in our heads and he is the primary driving force for human evolution.
there is a place in your head where you are driven to believe in a higher power and that the higher power will help you.

it exist somewhere in your hypothalamus and it enforces the human will and endurance to believe in the impossible.

so without god. human kind will be no where near string theory.
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post Jun 23 2009, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(selenium @ Jun 22 2009, 04:55 PM)
i do not agree with you that god does not exist.
he exist in our heads and he is the primary driving force for human evolution.
there is a place in your head where you are driven to believe in a higher power and that the higher power will help you.

it exist somewhere in your hypothalamus and it enforces the human will and endurance to believe in the impossible.

so without god. human kind will be no where near string theory.
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i believe 'god' do exist, but only in the form of energy.... not human-like figure of god in religion

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post Jun 23 2009, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jun 23 2009, 11:33 AM)
i believe 'god' do exist, but only in the form of energy.... not human-like figure of god in religion
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that one already told in some other religion... god is not something that we can imagine as we are not capable of imagining it...

it was told that the universe it restricted in the boundary of time while its not so for god... therefore... its impossible for us to correctly imagine...

Muslim was told that god is in a form of 'Dzat'... and there is no similarities of anything in this world...


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is string theory related to matter vs antimatter?
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QUOTE(wongcw @ Jun 23 2009, 01:07 PM)
is string theory related to matter vs antimatter?
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not sure. Apparently they use the same machine describe in the second video.
aiks confuse, they trying to collect the antimatter where else string theory mention in the second video said it will fly/move to other dimension.

So meaning able to collect half only? lol..
antimatter, bigger vibrating energy...
small vibrating energy go thru other dimension..-> string theory.

I've no prior understanding of this two theory as i just come across this thread.
My closest encounter is from the movie Angels & Demons. lol...you can ignore my explanation....hahahahha..but interesting stuff..

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QUOTE(selenium @ Jun 22 2009, 04:55 PM)
i do not agree with you that god does not exist.
he exist in our heads and he is the primary driving force for human evolution.
there is a place in your head where you are driven to believe in a higher power and that the higher power will help you.

it exist somewhere in your hypothalamus and it enforces the human will and endurance to believe in the impossible.

so without god. human kind will be no where near string theory.
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What do you mean he exists in our heads? Is there anything to prove your statement? How so can "he" be the primary driving force for human evolution? Where is the place that drives the believe in higher power as you mentioned?

I'm very skeptical about your statement.
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QUOTE(nonadoes @ Jun 23 2009, 02:33 PM)
not sure. Apparently they use the same machine describe in the second video.
aiks confuse, they trying to collect the antimatter where else string theory mention in the second video said it will fly/move to other dimension.

So meaning able to collect half only? lol..
antimatter, bigger vibrating energy...
small vibrating energy go thru other dimension..-> string theory.

I've no prior understanding of this two theory as i just come across this thread.
My closest encounter is from the movie Angels & Demons. lol...you can ignore my explanation....hahahahha..but interesting stuff..
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String theory theorize that everything in the universe are made out of tiny strings that vibrate differently. The difference in frequency produces different things like atom, electron, neutron, that's why it's one of the pursuing subject in finding the theory of everything.


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What do you mean he exists in our heads? Is there anything to prove your statement? How so can "he" be the primary driving force for human evolution? Where is the place that drives the believe in higher power as you mentioned?

I'm very skeptical about your statement.
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Uhh, let's not turn this into another religious debate. All I was saying is something else occupy the 5th-11th dimension, not God. sweat.gif

Discovery Science(Astro 554) has a a set of documentaries called 'The Elegant Universe' by Brian Greene. The documentaries explains General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, String Theory and everything related in easy to understand way. He also has a series of book related to this subject.

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Well, I'm not turning this into religious matter as I find that his statement was rather questionable without any supported relevant facts. smile.gif
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QUOTE(BlueWind @ Jun 23 2009, 09:24 PM)
Well, I'm not turning this into religious matter as I find that his statement was rather questionable without any supported relevant facts. smile.gif
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If an unintended fire starts, don't attempt to extinguish it with fuel biggrin.gif

Else it'll just end up like human evolution thread(before all the clean up)

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i have to admit when i first hear of this i was going "what the hell are these physicist smoking??"

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QUOTE(SeaGates @ Jun 23 2009, 10:19 PM)
If an unintended fire starts, don't attempt to extinguish it with fuel biggrin.gif

Else it'll just end up like human evolution thread(before all the clean up)
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okay...so, these tiny strings are some forms of energy vibrating in different phase, or dimension.. they are trapped in a particular enclosure which allow them to vibrate at certain magnitude and frequency? the reason? because let say initially we might hv different energy forms namely 1-20...mayb it just happened to be 1 met with 2..hi, and they react n restrain each other n become a particle..let say electron..while 1, met 4,5,6 n they react n form a bigger particle let say proton...did i get the idea wrong? so the many energy forms could couple each other in different combination and forming different sorts of particle that form matters...can i see it tat way?
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how about time flow in higher dimensions? is it faster? or slower?
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jun 25 2009, 03:00 PM)
how about time flow in higher dimensions? is it faster? or slower?
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Time is considered by many as a temporal dimension... Can't remember if Einstein actually postulated that space and time are actually entwined or intertwined (correct me if I'm wrong), hence our universe exist in 3 spatial dimensions, and one temporal dimension...

So if it does exist a higher planes of dimension, we as "natives" of our 3+1D universe would be impossible to see higher planes, much less knowing if time exist on a different pace.

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jun 25 2009, 03:00 PM)
how about time flow in higher dimensions? is it faster? or slower?
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We dont know as we can observe,feel or measure anything above 3D.
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why nobody talked about dog eyes? since they can see what we cant.
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QUOTE(mois @ Jul 2 2009, 02:20 PM)
why nobody talked about dog eyes? since they can see what we cant.
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because no proof.
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QUOTE(mois @ Jul 2 2009, 02:20 PM)
why nobody talked about dog eyes? since they can see what we cant.
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What exactly dog eyes can see that we can't?
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QUOTE(SeaGates @ Jul 4 2009, 08:13 PM)
What exactly dog eyes can see that we can't?
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I think he refer to things from other realm? Like angels or ghosts? laugh.gif The possibility is there, but how can we prove it? We can't see what they see, so we cannot verify that angel or ghost exist. Dogs can't talk, so they cannot tell us what they see. It's just speculation that dogs bark or howl because they see those thing.
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Jul 4 2009, 10:44 PM)
I think he refer to things from other realm? Like angels or ghosts?  laugh.gif The possibility is there, but how can we prove it? We can't see what they see, so we cannot verify that angel or ghost exist. Dogs can't talk, so they cannot tell us what they see. It's just speculation that dogs bark or howl because they see those thing.
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We can replicate dogs' vision.

No matter what species you are, eyes are receptors for LIGHT only. It's true that certain creature can see beyond the visible spectrum of the human eye, but does that mean ghost exists in within these spectrum?

Anyway how come we're talking about ghost now? laugh.gif
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String theory. I used to be a sucker for this one.


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String theory has got nothing to do with ghost. Unless u define ghost as "organism from another dimension"
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emm..why is it represented as a loop of string?is that how is actually looks like?
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It can be a loop of vibrating strings but also can be an open ended strings. For now, we do not know how does it actually look like that we can't even see at subatomic level.
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The hypothesis is (IMO):

Loop = gravity

Open ended BUT ends attached to membrane = everything else



 

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