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post Oct 18 2009, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(zero_hour @ Oct 18 2009, 09:43 PM)
owhh,tq bro..emm,is 21" too small for dvd or ps3?? coz allienware also 21"  hmm.gif ...
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If money is not a factor, then go for the U2410. I believe it's the updated version of Dell's wildly successful 2408WFP.

Another good choice would be the Dell 2209WA. Only drawback is it doesn't have HD resolution. But both should be above average monitors seeing as they use IPS panels.
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post Oct 18 2009, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(zero_hour @ Oct 18 2009, 10:58 PM)
hmm the ultrasharp too expnsive for me,bujet around rm500 -rm600,can top up a bit but no more then rm800  wink.gif
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At that price, go for Dell's 2209W. It falls nicely in your budget range and is full HD to boot. I've read good stuff about that monitor and am seriously considering getting it myself.

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post Oct 18 2009, 11:15 PM

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Most reliable prices can be had here
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post Oct 19 2009, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(300078 @ Oct 19 2009, 09:40 AM)
So now i planning to get another Dell monitor but i notice this Alienware 21.5" frm dell.... the price is a lot expensive than the 24"... the contrast lvl and the response time is better too.... but do u guys think tat it is a value buy? Or should i just go and buy the 24" better.
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If you are willing to fork out 1k for the monitor, why not consider the 2209WA? The e-IPS panel looks seriously amazing, provided you can stomach not having a HDMI connection and a 1680 x 1050 resolution.

@zero_hour;
It's so cheap that a missing HDMI connection doesn't matter much. Another plus, apart from the price, would be it's higher brightness level than all other ST models. Currently running on a screen with a 250nit brightness level myself, and IMHO it's too dark even at the highest setting.
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post Oct 19 2009, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Oct 19 2009, 12:02 PM)
Difference RM400 for 1 extra HDMI, 4 USB, Height Adjustable Stand and Audio Connectivity (will this work when we are using soundcard?) And "Alianware" for view.
For tight income costumer like me.. no worth leh. But of course all depend own personal taste.
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Don't overlook the better brightness level, contrast ratio (useless I know) and response time too. But I do agree that you will be paying a premium price for the Alienware name brand that just doesn't justify its overall performance.

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post Oct 22 2009, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(5564321 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:17 AM)
Just get one DVI cable lo..it won't burn your wallet smile.gif
Its true that Dell don't charge for delivery? I rmb that Dell does charge the fee for laptop and desktop.
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All delivery and tax charges are included in Dell's online price.

And yes, the 2209WA uses an e-IPS panel.
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post Oct 22 2009, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Oct 22 2009, 11:48 PM)
really?i just can find this review for monitor..i also want to buy st2310 at first,but changed my target to LG w2361v when i read this review..
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There is a pretty comprehensive and detailed LCD thread over at AnandTech.
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post Oct 23 2009, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Oct 23 2009, 02:31 AM)
what about s2309w compared to st2310?i good a deal should i go for it?
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Er, is Dell Malaysia even selling the S2309?
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post Oct 23 2009, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(LKW3 @ Oct 23 2009, 11:22 AM)
Hi... Sincere thanks for your feedback... smile.gif

Another question, is U2410 with LED back-lit? Or, CCFL as read somewhere in this thread?
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It's CCFL. The only to LED backlit LCDs being shipped by Dell currently are the G2410 and G2210.
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post Oct 23 2009, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(Argiope @ Oct 23 2009, 03:31 PM)
Can i conclude that if i have external speakers, i won't be needing this HDMI?
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Even if they do have HDMI, the sound quality of integrated monitor speakers is nothing to write home about. DVI is good enough for most people out there.
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post Oct 28 2009, 09:31 AM

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Dell ST2410 or G2410.

Viewsonic VX2433WM.
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post Oct 28 2009, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(yuka @ Oct 28 2009, 10:48 PM)
30" still too expensive for me  sweat.gif . Thinking of going to VK266H but i hate the design  unsure.gif . Maybe i'll go with U2410, what do you guys think?  hmm.gif
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An IPS panel eh? Should be pretty brilliant; though the best judge of that would be your own eyes.
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post Oct 29 2009, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(hpares @ Oct 29 2009, 08:20 PM)
Noob here. Kindly differentiate between these 2.
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You mean between TN and IPS panels?

Well, TN is your basic mainstream LCD panel. Cheap to produce, excellent response times, decent enough colors and somewhat limited viewing angles.

IPS panels on the other hand is one step higher. It has brilliant color reproduction which makes it perfect for graphic designers and better wide viewing angles than a TN panel. Though I've heard that it doesn't have the best response times, I've yet to notice any ghosting from the Dell S2209WA which has an e-IPS panel.
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post Oct 30 2009, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(hpares @ Oct 29 2009, 10:50 PM)
In order words IPS produce better pic quality than TN? any other nice model recommendation for IPS LCD?
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Dell S2209WA is the cheapest e-IPS panel I have seen. Though it only has a max resolution of 1680x1050. But for that price, it's a killer.
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post Oct 30 2009, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Oct 30 2009, 02:04 AM)
i dont get it i just dont get it why do you guys talk about IPS all the time? I mean cmon. CNET tigerdirect 3dgameman and even other good review site always tell TN panels are best for Games and movies as its response time is good IPS only differece is viewing angle is good  but do you watch it at 179 degree?? its already mentioned its for professionals whats the most professional thing you have done tell me? its about how you look on the lcd not even 15 ppl watching together on do you care about also
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You make solid points.

But I would counter by saying that not everyone is a FPS or racing junkie. And response times are subjective to the people in question. Some may notice ghosting whilst others might be blissfully unaware of it as it happens before their very eyes. My hypothesis is, if you cant see it, you wouldn't be bothered by it. Also, some of us, me for example, really enjoy getting the most out of our money. And if that means a top of the line IPS panel to enjoy full HD entertainment such as Blu-Ray playback or even RPG and adventure games with breathtaking graphics, then so be it.

Ghosting is only pretty much limited to FPS and racing games where the frames rendered tend to come thick and fast. Plus, IMO, if you can locate any ghosting in newer TN panels, then the only better option would be a CRT, and that will be a huge downgrade, wont it?

As for the color reproduction part, when you compare a TN and IPS panel side by side, you will notice quite a difference. And seeing as most LCDs out there are TN anyway, that will make you enjoy your IPS panel all the more. So, it isn't only for professionals. It also caters to the demanding consumer. Just my many cents. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hpares @ Oct 30 2009, 08:57 PM)
Isit dell S2209W and S2209WA same? I see the price in dell side only 580++. And I  was wondering isit Dell ST2410 24” Full HD good? Price in website is 779, but  i was wondering wat about shop? Isit same?
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Well, the S2209W has better screen resolution. But the S2209WA has better colors, viewing angles and all the other bonuses attributed to IPS panels.

Also, I'm not quite sure if you can find a Dell monitor for sale anywhere else other than their website. Sans refurbished or second hand models that is.

@Above;
You may want to consider the Dell S2209W yourself. 21.5" with good quality for its price, which is slightly above 500.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 30 2009, 11:27 PM)
BenQ G2220HD @ RM 47x
But dont put much hope on it (not to say it is completely useless/sucks), coz u'll have to remember, if you pay peanut, you'll get monkeys.  wink.gif
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Good metaphor. But I'd rather go for the Dell in this case, seeing as it really has good picture quality. That and Dell always honors their warranties promptly.
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QUOTE(king99 @ Nov 1 2009, 05:57 PM)
Hmm, is there any diffrence between 2ms and 5ms respond time ?

Is it worth the $$$ to get a 2ms compared to 5ms ?

Deciding on the Dell ST2410 24 or the Acer® P244W.

Which one should I get ?
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Though based on personal experience, I find that the stated specs do not always translate into the final product. I've seen screens with supposedly low response times, i.e. 2ms, show signs of ghosting. And on the flip-side, I've failed to notice said ghosting on screens that are rated for 6ms response time.
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QUOTE(nash9701 @ Nov 2 2009, 11:58 PM)
asus 2434PW and AOC 2434PW....which one better? is Dell only can buy online? no other shop sell Dell LCD meh?

Acer    H233H A+D 40000:1 5ms
ASUS  2434PW A+D 60000:1 2ms
AOC    2434PW A+D 60000:1 2ms
BENQ  G2410HD A+D 40000:1 2ms
LG      W2361V-PF A+D 50000:1 2ms
SAMSUNG  2333SW AD | 1920X1080 | 5MS | 20000:1

this i come across with my small budget, so anyone have any ideas which one preferable??
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You'll be hard pressed to locate a brand new Dell LCD selling anywhere else other than their website. Refurbished models are another story altogether.
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QUOTE(Baby.Tanker @ Nov 4 2009, 11:48 PM)
is thr any 24" LED monitor in the market yet?
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Dell G2410 and and a Samsung whose model number I cannot recall (all I know is that it starts with a X).

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