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Astronomy Is space exploration that important ?, Billions were spent !!

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post Jun 20 2009, 08:18 PM

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to add more, why dont huamn explore the deep sea? there are many strange creature
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post Jun 20 2009, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(seijiseimura84 @ Jun 20 2009, 08:18 PM)
to add more, why dont huamn explore the deep sea? there are many strange creature
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Because dealing with low/no pressure, is way easier then dealing with high pressure.
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post Jun 21 2009, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(seijiseimura84 @ Jun 20 2009, 08:18 PM)
to add more, why dont huamn explore the deep sea? there are many strange creature
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there are deep sea exploration, but in space exploration, there is a possibilities that you can find a habitable planet and natural resources from asteroids.

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post Jun 21 2009, 02:54 AM

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Honestly, I don't think we need to spend billions to explore space to find whatever we can find. Use that money to make world a better place to live. Or feed the poor. Because, at the moment they decide to make Mars a new place to live, I think I won't be around lah that time. biggrin.gif Just my opinion.
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QUOTE(yoecr7 @ Jun 21 2009, 02:54 AM)
Honestly, I don't think we need to spend billions to explore space to find whatever we can find. Use that money to make world a better place to live. Or feed the poor. Because, at the moment they decide to make Mars a new place to live, I think I won't be around lah that time. biggrin.gif Just my opinion.
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we should have do everything in the same time, earth got tons of human, some of them doing nothing, some of them went fishing, some of them fighting each other and threatened each other with nuclear weapon, and also there are some of them who doing space exploration.

what they are trying to do is to solved the questions that came in their mind, and eventually it can also help us to understand more about the universe, after all we are on the earth, and earth is inside the universe, so there's nothing wrong for us to explore it and understand it
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post Jun 22 2009, 02:25 AM

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why do we explore space? because it is there smile.gif

curiosity has a way more greater influence on humans than on cats smile.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:54 AM

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bt they spent billions or mayb trillions on that..bt wad they found is nt quite equivalent to wad they spent..y dn they use de money to help de poor instead?

*Friendly discussion* smile.gif
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Considering our Sun will go dead in the future(a couple of billion years into the future). I think scientist should explore the possibility of space exploration.
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post Jun 22 2009, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(seijiseimura84 @ Jun 20 2009, 08:18 PM)
to add more, why dont huamn explore the deep sea? there are many strange creature
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Morning!

Deep Sea Exploration has begun when the French Pierre Simon de Laplace calculated the average depth of the Atlantic Ocean from tidal motions. (considered as modern scientific study on deep sea)

Since 1870, With the Challenger expedition sent out by the British government dated back in 1872. Went on for nearly four years, for global oceanographic investigations, in this process 715 new genera and 4417 new species of marine organisms were discovered.

Have yu heard of bathysphere? I came across this word in "Bioshock" game while playing it with my PS3. (Who says playing game will downgrade your knowledge??!! Huh! Huh! I will banish the fella with my Divine Rapier! MUAHAHAHA~~~)
The designer of this bathysphere (A spherical steel vessel) are Charles William Beebe and engineer Otis Barton. Anyway, on a side story, he didn't complete his Degree at Columbia University in New York and he also collaborated with Einstein too back in the years! (Sad case for a brilliant fella...Dammit! How come he can collaborate with Einstein on certain matter and not me?!)

Come to date, we have advanced robotic submersibles at our disposal. By integrating technologies, we have submersibles that have camera, television systems and special lighting systems to provide light for photography, mechanical manipulators (Like octopus's tentacles, try play MGS4: Guns of The Patriots-Laughing Octopus) that can collect samples from the sea floor, biological specimens, oddities such as wreckage debris, dead humans??!! digging pits, sinking exploration shafts, core-drilling operations and deep-sea mining for whatever ~!@#$%^&* nodules, composites (maganese, nickel, copper, cobalt...blah blah blah) there is in the sea.

Regards, Joey

p.s: As I mentioned earlier in my previous posting, SEA BED EXPLORATION is the down part and SPACE EXPLORATION is the upper part.
It's rewarding if yu explore?! into BOTH PARTS. MUAHAHAHA~~~

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post Jun 22 2009, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(CuteSanSan @ Jun 22 2009, 11:54 AM)
bt they spent billions or mayb trillions on that..bt wad they found is nt quite equivalent to wad they spent..y dn they use de money to help de poor instead?

*Friendly discussion* smile.gif
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consider that the us space budget is only a fraction of their defence budget, i have a better question on their fund management sweat.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 10:30 PM

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bt defence is important for their country..same like us..cnt compare budget of NASA n country's defence

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post Jun 22 2009, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(CuteSanSan @ Jun 22 2009, 10:30 PM)
bt defence is important for their country..same like us..cnt compare budget of NASA n country's defence
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in 2006, USA have a defence budget of USD985billion compared to USD1158billion for the ENTIRE WORLD. the second highest (UK) only have arond USD60billion. Of the countries that are not firm US allies, the highest defence budget is China with ~USD50billion. Compared with the average %GDP for defence of 2%, USA spends a total of more than 12% of its GDP for defence.

In comparison, NASA's annual budget average to around USD8billion per year. or less than 1% of the US defence budget.

so if you say its better to cut NASA spending to better citizen's life......

space exploration is expensive, but not as expensive as you think

as a result of NASA's space exploration programs, NASA has over 5000 patents on inventions including the following more useful ones:
invisible braces (for teeth), scratch proof lenses (for spectacles), memory foam (for pillow), ear thermometer, shoe insole (those special sports shoes that athletes wear), long distance communication (thank NASA for your handphones), adjustable smoke detectors, safety groove (those lines on the roads Y-junctions/zebra crossing), cordless tools (drills, etc), water filter, kidney dialysis machine, physical therapy, CAT scanner in hospital, MRI scanner in hospital, freeze-dry food preservation method, insulation foils, non-stick pans, race car suits, and many many more


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post Jun 22 2009, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Jun 22 2009, 10:56 PM)
in 2006, USA have a defence budget of USD985billion compared to USD1158billion for the ENTIRE WORLD. the second highest (UK) only have arond USD60billion. Of the countries that are not firm US allies, the highest defence budget is China with ~USD50billion. Compared with the average %GDP for defence of 2%, USA spends a total of more than 12% of its GDP for defence.

In comparison, NASA's annual budget average to around USD8billion per year. or less than 1% of the US defence budget.

so if you say its better to cut NASA spending to better citizen's life......

space exploration is expensive, but not as expensive as you think
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thnx for de statistics smile.gif btw v dn compare NASA wif defence purpose, v compare NASA n de amount of ppl v cn help wif tat huge sum of $$
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(CuteSanSan @ Jun 22 2009, 11:07 PM)
thnx for de statistics  smile.gif  btw v dn compare NASA wif defence purpose, v compare NASA n de amount of ppl v cn help wif tat huge sum of $$
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see my edited post.

point is, space exploration benefit the people of earth. if you want to fight poverty, increase education, etc. find something else to cut

plus, if you look at the numbers, USA outspends the rest of the world by a large large margin for defence. as the only remaining superpower does it really have that much to fear?

so dont say space exploration is depriving people of benefits. for a relatively small amount, it offers a lot of benefit (unlike some other US programs)

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post Jul 2 2009, 04:53 AM

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TS.

Ever looked up the sky and wondered?

People had, and went up to check what's up.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 2 2009, 04:53 AM)
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Ever looked up the sky and wondered?

People had, and went up to check what's up.
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i agreed, bt v s human, kip on exploring without taking care of our own Earth
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 2 2009, 04:53 AM)
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Ever looked up the sky and wondered?

People had, and went up to check what's up.
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They went up, sure. But they didn't get very far though. Furthest man has gone is Moon.

Voyager 1 is almost 15 light hours out, bout 3x distance from Pluto.

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QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Jul 2 2009, 09:13 PM)
They went up, sure. But they didn't get very far though. Furthest man has gone is Moon.

Voyager 1 is almost 15 light hours out, bout 3x distance from Pluto.
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are you sure pluto is 5 light hours away?


Added on July 3, 2009, 2:14 am
QUOTE(CuteSanSan @ Jul 2 2009, 08:14 PM)
i agreed, bt v s human, kip on exploring without taking care of our own Earth
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exploring is exploring, take care of earth is take care of earth. they are not mutually exclusive. nor are they dependent on one another....

This post has been edited by lin00b: Jul 3 2009, 02:14 AM
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post Jul 3 2009, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Jul 3 2009, 02:13 AM)
are you sure pluto is 5 light hours away?
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Come, enlighten us!
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post Jul 3 2009, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Jul 3 2009, 09:09 AM)
Come, enlighten us!
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this may enlighten you guys...
How many light-years away from Earth is Pluto?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...06145646AA0etgT

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