Just pretty curious how it is working for the Malaysian military and how the pay is like?

Anybody with experience care to share?

the pays is much more than other public sector field...the allowance also much more...

but u'll live like hell (maybe 4 me...) huhuhu...

Care to elaborate a little?

im curious as well why live like hell...

Interesting stuff. Would like to know wats in the military field. What position? Technician? Army? Technology?

nsc you wanna join Malaysian military ?

Yes. Wanna join as sniper team.

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Added on June 16, 2009, 4:02 pmEh, this topic was suppose to be a serious topic! Anyone?

This post has been edited by nScRoX: Jun 16 2009, 04:02 PM

i heard from my friends, if you finish your degree at University Pertahanan M'sia or if you are ATMA student, u will come out with the rank of captain or if at university you join in the ROTU (reserved officer bla bla unit) you will come out as 'leftenan muda'...well am not sure either...but if you join the force after you finish your studies...your starting salary should be around RM2+++...

my fren daddy is sniper working for goverment...
his job is going out yam cha with friend...
our country is too peace
we dont need a sniper........
just imagine the region u serve in quite 'rural' place
u will become full time yam cha kaki until u retire

m'sia criminal not use to hostage situation to get away from authority...m'sia criminal just rob the bank and runaway as fast they could and pray for luck.... no hostage situation, no sniper are needed...

i thought if u join military..there's no way u can choose what u wanna be..they'll choose it for u...best of luck to TS..eheh

its serve, not work

u x bekerja dalam tentera, u berKhidmat.

there are many position in back end support also , not all carry guns and drive tanks.

this salary 2+++ in what
degree?

Do we have any department which works like CIA or anything?

of course they do...
for selected people only...

Huhuhu or u can opt to become NS trainer after u finished serving the military. If u're a high ranking officer, u get to scold and yell at trainees (which, of course applies to the trainers).

It's quite nice, salary is high and most of the time u just need to yell and scold. So, it's good for those who have loud voice.

lol something useful to work as then?

not just for shouting at ppl.

for degree qualification..u r not working at the front line of coz... work as an officer...not as a private maggot...

i think there is some engineering/technical post oso in army. actually i have been eyeing/considering it for a while
TUDM/TLDM can be considered army too meh? Anyway,from what i read in their brochures, the pay is quite good. A grad could get around 2.7k inclusive all the benefits. I forgot which one, but it's either TLDM/TUDM. And if im not mistaken u get to be called Kapten, if u have a degree. No need to shout/yell and still get called captain is still cool what

But it would be much better if someone who actually works there could tell how it's like.

there are engineering corp in the army as well as in the air force and navy. but it is better to join the air force or navy if you want to work as engineers. the culture is better and you get to work with better stuff. 1 of my friend is in the army engineering corp and she said it's mostly civil engineering. there are kor jurutera letrik but i'm not sure bout that corp. for air force, after commission as an officer with a degree as a captain, you have to go for a 9 months engineer course. of course there are other positions like pegawai radar etc. the best base to work is subang air base since it's the HQ. For navy, not really sure but i guess u can work on their rajawali helicopters or maintain ships. however, for all 3 services, if you are an officer, you don't need to dirty your hands. your staff will be doing the work not you. you just supervise and sign contracts. and do planning. that's why you actually learn nothing. but it's not good to shout and yell at your staff. you still need to take care of them even though they have to obey you. malaysia military culture is like that. you can't go against your superiors for fear of repercussions.you may get a hit,punch or slap from problem officers. there are even more punishment that are harsh.
1 is having to report to the military police guard post every hour. it is very tiring. another is marching for hours on end.1 that i particularly don't like is change parade. you need to go back to your barracks to change uniforms every 5 minutes. it had to be experienced to be believed.

maybe you need your staff's help in the future.it's good to have a good relationship with your staff but not too much until they step on your head. many of those other ranks staff have told me they don't like officers. officers don't know anything and they walk and act as if they have something big to prove. i really hope that the malaysian military culture improves. i'm happy to know that there are good officers even though there are many bad ones. i just don't like power subjugating power. like you are bullied by officers with higher ranks and you repeating that on new young officers or when you surpass the officer who bullied you. that way, the cycle never ends. i even wished i can join foreign militaries like USAF and US Army. i heard we can join the french or british army but only can join their infantry. can retire after 5 years and get pension which is quite high. PMC (private military contractors) are out of the question. Spy agencies are also out of the question.

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Added on September 11, 2009, 8:57 pmThere are a lot of corp in the army. like infantry, services corp (takes care of salary stc), medical corp, religion corp, logistics corp, engineer corp, tanks corp, etc. army has the most interesting departments or corp in the military compared to the air force or navy. too bad air force and navy feel more modern and higher standard.

you have to be a commando to be a sniper. and the selection and training is not easy.

as an officer, u can choose your corp but in the end, they choose for you. engineer qualification but they throw you in infantry. management degree but they throw you in engineer corp.
in the air force or navy, they give you places that suit your qualifications.

that corp is special... i would love to join it but too bad i want to be a pilot. however, throw any james bond idea from your head.

who said officers don't need to work in the front lines? you can sit in your office growing your fat butt if you reach lieutenant colonel. the lowest rank which is lieutenants to captains still need to join in operasi even though you have privileges. you shouldn't insult privates. it's tough already being at the bottom of the food chain. they don't need to be insulted with that kind of remark. why don't you go and join as a private and see how it's like?

This post has been edited by deathninjax: Sep 11 2009, 09:01 PM

hmm, interesting topic... btw just to share senior army officer log a lot of complain regarding ATMA now UPNM graduate... after graduation they hold a rank as a capt and know nothing....

heard from my father, they are goin to evaluate back the rank that need to be given to UPNM graduate.

btw, life in army is tough, the boss is always right no matter what. on the other hand if u are good u can fly all around the world. my father has been almost every country of the world. this is the time where u want to earn some money or saving. Regular pay just so and so but had alot of benefit ie driver, car, house (really big) , annual leave for 60 days,

If I'm not mistaken, only the politically useful are allowed to climb the ranks.

I don't think we're treating our common soldiers well enough, by the way.

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Added on September 12, 2009, 5:02 amAduhai. +_+'

This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Sep 12 2009, 05:02 AM

know nothing but act like they own the world. in the past, they bully juniors like some kind of dog. their attitude is sickening and ragging is very severe.

they are closing those army, air force and navy colleges. so i think they will scale back to 1 pip lieutenant for UPNM.
need to let them experience from the bottom first. not so fast let them have privileges and boss people around like people owe them something just because they went through hard (maybe not) training. Other rank soldiers went through worse and are still living in lower conditions compared to officers. they didn't complain and still have to endure the arrogance of officers.

if you can fly around the world, that means you are the high rank officers that are usually not attainable by non bumis. to have your own driver and car, you need to be at least a colonel which is not easily obtainable as well. big house depends on your relationship with the camp commandant. anyway, the house is not yours and have to be returned after you retire or posted somewhere else. so please get your facts straight. not everyone can even rise to lieutenant colonel. major yes. but after that, see for yourself.

Maybe his sniping job means sniping people in counter strike or call of duty

interesting to join pegawai graduan tldm. when is the intake for 2010?

normal university graduate can apply?

if u able to survive to air force im sure u have a good career
my fren was a captain for MAS ok he is only around mid 30s
he got scar on his face due to fight and constantly been bashed up by those seniors and the malaysian air force is as pushy as any air force in the world

dude u dun need university to apply u can take spm to apply but their training regime is very tight but good training for u peeps out there

The intake for graduate officer scheme is in August/September every year....Last yr's intake was conducted in Kem Desa Pahlawan....those who joined ROTU in university hv more advantage....

i talked with one of my patient earlier on today...
hes an army captain, working for an malaysian army for more than 20 years.
anyway, out of my curiosity ( the patient of mine was actually provoking me real hard to check the website regarding the availability of the job application in the army) i came across with this thing :
http://maf.mod.gov.my/kerjaya/gaji01.htm

its quite intriguing..the salary and future prospect of this "job".
i must admit, army "job" has never crosses my mind before.
me and my bro just had a little discussion about these, and both of us decided to think about this seriously.
based on the qualifications, both of us would end up being a captain, should we enroll ourself with our engineer and medical doctor degrees, respectively.

so why am i here writing all these craps?
~im just hoping that anybody could give us some extra info about this future prospect of being a "military man".. chip us in with anything that you got.your patronage is very very much appreciated.
thanks

I would be very much appreciate if you can ask the Kapt, if i can join up and be placed in Nuclear, Biology, and Chemical Defence unit in Rejimen Askar Jurutera Diraja. If not then, I also think of being an Ammunition Technical Officer in Kor Ordnans Diraja. I think Science graduate officer had better chance being an ammunition technical officer.

I am a nuclear science graduate and had my PALAPES training previously before. I won't like it if my B. Sc. have no specific value in the armed forces and they simply dumped me in the infantry unit like Royal Rangers or Border Regiment ..but anyway, being in the Royal Artillery Regiment also quite nice . very interested to join in the army.

Last 2 year's graduate officer intake for the army required education graduate, n last year's takes only religious study graduate not sure how this year's intake gonna be, just hope they are taking science graduate this year..

i heard if got univ degree can terus go korporal or major rank rite?

This guy, play too much cs and watch too much movies.

Why dont you go work as Batman.

With a degree you can straight away join into kapten rank. A step lower than major.

It definitely be a good thing to join into army as you get respected by people you come across.

wahhh.... Captain ahh... imagine.. Capten Cheese.... "wokkay i want u take this tank go attack someone"

captain can kerahkan army tak?

If got degree, join in as graduate officer, n thn u'll get captain straight away...after few years after going through some courses then, u'll rise up to major

Corporal is non-commisioned officer...not officer....

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Added on February 14, 2010, 12:08 pmBeing an officer means u have to command someone, you have to plan, and give out order to your men to do the job...depends on your corp r regiment...for example if u r in the infantry unit like Rej.Askar Melayu, Rejimen Renjer or Rejimen Sempadan, you'll have a company of soldiers to command, which ur company will be divided into 3 platoon, each one commanded by a lieutenant. If you r in armour corp, u'll lead a tank troop with 3-4 tanks. in artillery, u'll be the one who conduct and coordinate the fire of your gun position based on the grid location given by the forward observer offcer. If u r in royal engineer, u'll lead n supervise your men building bridge, destroy minefield, defuse bombs, destroy building/strucures, digging trenches, conduct Nuclear, biology n chemical warfare defence and decontamination.

There are also non combat role in the army for officers like medical/dentistry/veterinary officer,electrical and mechanical engineer officer, logistic officer, ammunition technical officer, education officer, signal officer....

If u think u have the gut, join in the Rejimen Gerak Khas (not the Gelak Khas police movie played in the TV), or known as Komando

This post has been edited by AhGuan: Feb 17 2010, 01:07 AM

hey,why not? u already have a degree and u will end up your carrier in military field as a captain,but before that u have to attend some courses

before officially appointed as an officer..and obviously,u have to undergo some basic training on handling the firearm and combat tactics

but that is only for about 3 months (correct me if i'm wrong).


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AhGuan, u are ROTU ar? from which university?i am ROTU also..

neOcOn,

The training for graduate officer intake is 9 month.

yup, I was frm ROTU UKM, alrdy commissioned last year. so, which service and which university u're from??

if age 26 still can join the military??

still can but have to be fast, the max age is 27 for graduate officer intake. What qualification do u have??

hmm, u juz join malaysian army for those trainings...once u're done with it, resign.

Then, u work as a freelance assassin

Well, I think of joining up as Engineer officer..preferably as a demolition expert. well, being an Ammunition Technical officer also great..they are those from royal ordnance corp who's the expertise is defusing bombs and maintining the ammunitions and explosives...hmm...any1 knw when's the intake of the next graduate officer?? prefferable pegawai tugas ikhtiss with engineering or science degree.....

it cross my mind to join TLDM right after my NS. But then it seems being a minor race in military life seems hard....

Is it engineering officer nvr do engineering works?? quite curious about Royal Engineer Regiments.....I was in ROTU before, and studied nuclear science last time. But recently, didn't see any advertisement of graduate officer intake requiring science graduate . Very interested to join up the Nuclear, Biology and Chemical Defence unit, or Royal Ordnance corp as Ammunition Technical Officer

Sorry for necromancing this old thread but it was certainly an interesting thread .

I wanna ask can a finance major apply for military as Graduation officer which will become captain soon while having a full time job ??

LTZ

This post has been edited by OvenBaked: Jun 14 2015, 09:40 PM

if u lucky u get to meet soldiers from other country



This post has been edited by AxeFire: Sep 11 2015, 10:48 PM

Yes we have Intelligence department