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bgeh
post Jun 14 2009, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Jun 14 2009, 04:34 PM)
How do I know, no I don't know. I'm simply questioning the odds of it happening, when given infinite amount of time.
And you're fantasizing la. Explain how a human being would simply "cease to exist". You think a bunch of molecules would just disappear without a trace like there's some kind of universe fabric with self-correction mechanism somewhere?
I'm not disagreeing with your ideas, just that there has to be some more "reasonable" explanations for them.
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No, the grandfather paradox would mean that the bunch of molecules will never end up turning into your present self. Sure they'll exist, but will you?
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post Jun 14 2009, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Jun 14 2009, 08:19 PM)
Well TS just said I simply ceased to exists without elaborating further.

Taking your point of view, say if I'm talking to you face to face right now while someone goes back in time and killed my previous self, the current universe that contains me would have to be unravelled and rebuild in a new fashion without me and everything that I have done or changed. The question is what physics law governs that to happen? You said "never". However I am "already" here so something has to make the change. I'm questioning what forces of nature governs or controls this self-correcting mechanism. For all the molecules that's going to be restructured, where are all those energies going to come from?

The grandfather paradox scenario is I go back in time and killed or change something (killing my grandfather) that prevents my creation in the future so I couldn't have gone back in time in the first place thus creating a paradox.
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I know what the grandfather paradox is. Let's not get into the paradox firstly. Suppose you indeed go back in time and alter time in such a way that your grandfather never meets your grandmother, i.e. it needs not be murder. You will by definition cease to exist. The combination of DNA molecules that is your genetic code wouldn't exist. So yes, you cease to exist. It is that ceasing to exist part that leads to the paradox.

There aren't any laws of physics I know of, regarding about what you're talking about. But giving it more thought, there isn't any need for 'energy' to change any action, because from the point in time you were killed, you 'ceased' to exist, and thus there doesn't need to be any unravelling of your actions in the time after that event, because you never participated in the thing in the first place.

Of course this is all highly speculative, and has nothing to do with the physics of time at all.
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post Jun 14 2009, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(BlueWind @ Jun 14 2009, 10:35 PM)
I was thinking, is that even possible? I mean, if there is really a time machine, it has to be travelling at the speed of light. We human can only sustain maximum 9 gravity force and imagine if we are travelling at the speed of light, can we even stand the gravitational force?
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BlueWind: speed =! force, and neither is it proportional. you're confusing acceleration and velocity

e.g. astronauts travel at some really high speed in the ISS (20,000 km/h or something relative to the surface of the Earth) but they're virtually weightless in the ISS

 

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