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post Jun 15 2009, 06:54 PM

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Makes me think about mind travel, only in the form of frequency but when things are destroyed in the past, it does not exist anymore unless time or physical entity is recorded and can recall back like a video.

Imagine the food we ate, absorbed and passed out process in reverse! If human can do that, life becomes meaning less. Even if we are unable to interfere but can prevent something from happening like the movie "Minority report", it won't do us any good unless to prevent from near extinction trying to find clues from history.

I don't see why there is a need for time travel in the first place, life is such because we don't know, if you know when and how you will die, you will try to alter it so you can choose to die in bed peacefully.

4th dimension is in dream and 5th is teleport, I guess time travel would be 6D.
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post Aug 28 2009, 02:31 PM

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deja vu has a scientific explanation, the brain stop processing at a fraction of a second and when resume, it recall the last thing we saw in memory. I saw this from TV program a long time ago before we have National Geographic Society video. (TransTel, BBC)

Everyone have such experience and if we can crossover to the future time zone, why can't we experience backward like seeing history? Think again, if we can go front & back, it means time is recorded at all level like a video camera but in a medium far greater than what we can imagine. If so, the future is already history and for that, I conclude that time travel is not possible otherwise continue to live is meaningless since we are destined.

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post Sep 4 2009, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(jinkinz @ Sep 4 2009, 11:33 AM)
lets says with two dot.
in one paper.
u bend the paper and those two dot meet together, thats part of the theory
wormhole , which eventually relate to time travel, of coz the paper replace with time frame.
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Your theory means our life is going in circle that when we reached the end of the dot we go back to the day where Universe is born, then what medium is holding time? It just go round & round? If so why bother about Armageddon or end of the world, why try to save the Earth and recycle since it will restart when the end comes.
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post Sep 8 2009, 10:15 AM

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Even if TIME is recorded, what good does it do?

Since it is so fascinating to talk about theory when we are in the well, think about what would you do after that when you jump out the well looking at the whole picture.
Jump here and there to rectify or alter the past for an ideal future, if doesn't turn out to be the way you prefer, go back and do it differently, I think it is stupid, I choose not to be born instead.

This whole idea is just for the sake of argument for those who think linear.

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post Sep 9 2009, 10:16 AM

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Time dilation is gravitational effect on device only, time is created as a standard to measure but everything has its own time such as some animal can move and react faster, plant grow at much slower pace and when parts of them are eaten by animals, the others begin to develop defence mechanism by generate poison & thorn.

Put aside possibilities, if just one human can achieve time travel, that person can leap in and out across time zone would make him GOD. Make everyone worship the living god and how far into the future or the beginning? By then you will wonder what medium is holding time and want to transform out of human body to become a divine power.

MATRIX movie; If there is a beginning, there is an end. When we know how we are going to end, everything else is meaningless, we continue to live because we don’t know the limit.

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post Sep 9 2009, 06:27 PM

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So, convince me in simple English that the future is already made in advanced time because to travel through time is like playing back & forth video recordings.

How to even conceive this idea without explaining the medium that act like the video recording device? Yet time is abstract? Sounded more like science fiction here.

Time dilation is only the speed of time, if you accelerate plant time, you can see them grow right before your eyes never suggest that it can reverse time.
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post Sep 10 2009, 10:45 AM

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The future or the past, it is a destination. The future must already be made for you to reach. If you suggest that it is only one way means you are not traveling but DELAYING time in simple English.

You are only thinking of the mode of transport to achieve "light speed", worm hole and black hole but none of these suggest it move between time and the implication that time can be traveled as a destination ultimately means it is RECORDED in a medium.

We are already time traveling, the airplane can fly us to time zone one day later from Malaysia and people from the other half can travel one day forward. So the mode of transportation is what everyone talking about as if the future is made or the past is still there. Every breath you take, every single molecule has to be recorded in time so that when you found a way to go back, they are there.

Delay time as if travelling forward is not Time Travel, it only mean to preserve a primitive body to see the future and you are likely to live in a container nothing more than just exhibit to advance human environment.

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post Sep 10 2009, 01:20 PM

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All I stated is doubt while everyone rush to provide theories. Science geek always dwell on methods but here, before you can even talk about time travel, my question is What is time? Human time, plant time or is it universe time?

The only rational thing is delay time rather than travel across time. I describe what time means to refresh your mind of the definition of time itself before you can say travel between it or do you expect every opinion to offer the method of transport?

Say the destination is the year 2020, fine out how to go there or go back one hour ago and expect every molecule is at where it was, something must have recorded time, fine out what this medium is and then you can think about how to travel in time.

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post Sep 28 2009, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Thinkingfox @ Jun 14 2009, 02:58 PM)
How it is possible to go back to the past? Even if you can go faster than the speed of light, you would probably be able to delay time.
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Some may take science like a religion and here to defend defend and defend so called proven theory, if proven why is it a theory? Similar to the debate of religion and the existence of god using light as the element that thought can travel in time just because of the speed like spirit do. While thinking of the mode of transport, the implication suggests that time can be manipulated as wish and that makes life a joke and purposeless. Imagine going back to the birth of Universe or the end of it, would you go back to where you came from and continue to live?

Preserving a life form of today will make it a primitive specimen in the future, human ethic only permit medical purpose of such technique where a lifetime is a lifetime, who are you to live in the future just because you think you were born in the wrong era? To me, the possibility means the end of the physical world and maybe you are in the spirit world, if there is such a dimension, what are you doing there?

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post Sep 18 2010, 02:27 PM

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Why would you bring new technology back to mess with the past? Why would alien help build a tomb but the people never express their gratitude by carving aliens in stone?

Time travel backwards seems against the Universe which is expanding and leaving things behind then a medium you can interact with in the time zone like every molecule duplicate itself and remain there.

If we found the way to do that, the purpose of our existence or Universe's will be known and could be the ultimate end, it is like can't wait to meet god. Simple, wait until we die is only one lifetime away and how many years have you got left to know the answer?

One day if human is able to travel across the Universe where there is nothing more to discover, then only tackle the time issue.
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post Nov 5 2010, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(befitozi @ Nov 4 2010, 02:14 PM)
Hmm, i never thought of it this way. Perhaps if we can create a machine to view a certain event, certainly much more feasible than a machine to take us physically there. This could find good use in forensics biggrin.gif
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The machine is called video camera with added functions. tongue.gif

Attempting to answer this question with science is not as interesting as exploring why must there be life in the first place and why only human are unique who creates than live like animals. What is the purpose to go backward or forward? Looking for the beginning or the end?
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post Nov 7 2010, 04:12 AM

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I see, this topic isn't about science of time travel but the urge of fantasy mind that want to travel through time. Like chasing ghost or define spirit kind of thing, at least come up with better story to narrate through the process than try to ration with it.
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post Nov 8 2010, 10:23 AM

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Imagine the urine from the toilet went back to your genital and came out from your mouth, also the feces that turn back into food and backward all the way to the farm, body parts of animals and the grass they eat, the vegetable grow backward to form the past that you visit all the way to the beginning of life.

Then fast forward the same and see where the urine and feces become part of someone's body and turn into some thing else and so on, if there is a beginning, there is an end and when you come back to present time, what do you think will change? I don't think you want to live.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Nov 14 2010, 04:27 AM)
There is theory, however. That even if you killed whoever conceived you, you will still exist.

The theory suggests that time does not really move in a straight line like an arrow. It moves likes a river, in different sets of streams. At times, the river can split into different directions, resulting in different timelines, or else known as the explaination for parallel universes. This theory is probably oming from an everyday human experiences. Have you remebered how certain minutes actually "felt" as if it is longer than other days? Theory suggests that the river sometimes forms a small vortex, trapping any matter into a temporary time stop, hence you hear things like, "That is the longest ONE minute I ever have".

Theories, anyways. But it sure gave a way out for time paradoxes.
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You mean such vortex only slows the clock but not human or animal? When we need more time to do something, it is faster but when waiting anxiously for it to pass, it seems slow, how does scientist conceive the theory?
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I still don't get this vortex time theory, I only remember time keeping device have only adjusted less than a second because the minute & second is not perfect measurement. If it fluctuates in such that we can feel, how to be certain that the Voyager or Apollo mission won't be affected by it? Imagine the satellite went off align by one minute.

Unless it only affect cosmic and device but not living organism because we have feelings, what kind of science is that?
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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Dec 17 2010, 02:18 PM)
regret to tell u that your pov was totally wrong. i'm the man from future. 2079. However there are nothing i can do to change the past, simply because of it became our history. it was merely a trip to visit my grandfather that pass away long before i was born.
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Are you a part of the zeitgeist program that reformed the world? How your super computer managed?
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post Dec 19 2010, 12:12 AM

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I think there must be a new rules that says: this forum is for current people not the future age between 8 to 150.
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post Jan 11 2011, 05:20 PM

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The same as "terminator", it just loop. I don't understand why SPEED of light is the key to time, if so, what is the medium that hold time? Example: video tape, DVD, hard disk... without it, where are the history to go back to?
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jan 11 2011, 05:51 PM)
it was proven on an experiment that the faster the object, the slower the time inside the object.
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Slow is what happen not recorded, if faster than the speed of light means can scroll back time? everything is just still, its like the heart beat once in 100 years slow of that moment. Where is the recording?
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It only indicate speed of time but not going back and forth to specific time frame and expect every single molecule is at its location before it transform/ mutate...
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