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william68
post Jan 15 2010, 02:16 PM

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Can try Toyo R1R or Bridgestone RE-11 not 011, if you want great grip and performance and sacrifice low tread wear.
william68
post Jan 15 2010, 05:37 PM

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Then try BF Goodrich G Force sport.
Cheap and long treadwear.
195/50R15 around RM200 and treadwear of 340 if not mistaken.

The tire is quite quiet too.

R1R, AD07, AD08, RE11 has treadwear around 140 only.
Pilot Sport Cup is not mistaken should be 80 treadwear which is equivalent to Toyo R888, RA-R or other semi-slicks class tire.
william68
post Jan 15 2010, 06:43 PM

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Actually, it is advisable not to travel at high speed when there is deep puddles. Too many ppl underestimated water and end up having trouble in the wet.

william68
post Jan 18 2010, 09:43 AM

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Yokohama Parada is not bad but after wear off to around 50% it will act like Michelin PP2. Aqua planning efficiency drops.

Parada dry grips gets better after warm up but lose a lot of traction if it goes near the high temperature threshold.
william68
post Jan 18 2010, 07:00 PM

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Its is not inferior for PP2 but the efficiency of aqua planning resistance drop when the tread depth drop. This is normal for almost all asymmetric. Most of them are pressure optimized hence you see it need to have correct position for inside and outside.

The best water dissipation system is directional type which have enough water channel especially those in V arrangement. But this is just water dissipation and not about the tire compound yet.

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Higher grip tires tend to be on softer compound hence the treadwear time reduce. It can go as low as 120 to 140, any lower should be around semi-slick class which is 80 and below.
william68
post Jan 19 2010, 09:11 AM

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Got some friend tested on a v12 before in Sepang. They are great as long as you don't heat them up excessively.
william68
post Jan 19 2010, 09:42 AM

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Well, I understand your conclusion.
All this is very subjective to car type, allignment geometry, car weight, tire size and etc.

I am not comparing between v12 and PP2 but amount most of the tires that I used or driven before. My first tries on PP2 was on a Civic FD for a week then its traded and top up with a PZero Rosso due to the car is driven by other driver which need differen requirement.

BTW, a tire width that is too wide will also cause easy aqua planning especially when it wear near 50%.
william68
post Jan 20 2010, 12:03 PM

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Jeremy,
Where you stay ?

Mic,
Not sure if Civic is PP1 or 2. It could be PP1 but cannot confirm didn't have the tire for long.

Han RS2 if not mistaken has similar treadwear as Yoko AD07 but i couldn't be wrong.

One more thing to beware. Not all tires build with the same rubber. Some has high treadwear due to soft compound when new so you feel ample of grip then after 40% wear it will slowly in medium-hard compound. This is the grip start loosing and the tread is always there.
william68
post Jan 20 2010, 01:43 PM

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Well.
I don't say PP/PP2 its not good but it average for me.

Anyway, Michelin is not the best tires producer for all class.

Goodyear GSD3 might not up to your standard when you try to compare it against PP1 or 2 in wet and dry grip except aqua planning capabilities.

To check all the aqua planning then need to check on the tire water dissipation rate at given tire size and tread depth.

If you willing to spend a bit, can try BF Goodrich Profiler.
william68
post Jan 21 2010, 09:51 AM

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They are low profiles tires.
Low profiles tires normally start from 55 or 50 series and below.

When you reduce the tire profile you tend to have sharper steering response and reduce comfort. To an extend it will reduce the grip if you have the same tire width with different profile in the corners.

Also when a tire width is too wide it will increase the risk of aqua planning too.
william68
post Jan 22 2010, 09:18 AM

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Well if you wanna remove the 4WD look a like gap is via sport spring is the cheapest but not always good return as it will create more stress to the shock. If the OEM shocks can take it so things will be fine.

If you want to proper way change the lot of the spring and shocks.

For a CPS Waja, maybe you can try 15inch 195/55R15 which can save you money if you having hot driving mean tires change every 6-9months.
william68
post Jan 25 2010, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(yokatasan @ Jan 22 2010, 10:12 AM)
hey i got ques to ask here
is it possible that changing to ultra low profile tires without sacrifice comfortable of the car?
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It is possible to a certain extend but it will not be 100% similar to the OEM comfort.
And it come at some cost too.

This is categorized under suspension, chassis and wheel tuning.

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