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Edwin89
post Apr 21 2011, 07:17 PM

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Hey bros, I'm going to change sport rims for my Honda City 06. But I'm not sure that 16" or 17" is better. I've survey from some tire shop,they told me 16" and 17" tire/rims price is almost the same,so they suggest me 17". Is it true?

Btw,which tire is better? I'm using Michelin PP2 185/55R15. I need it quite,last and the price is reasonable. LOL. Michelin? Toyo? Hankook? Yokohama? Bridgestone??? Any suggestion for me please...

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Edwin89
post Apr 22 2011, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Apr 22 2011, 08:59 AM)

1st of all are you ready to put RM350~RM400/tire and around RM1500 to RM1600 for 1 set tire change... don keep on telling me 16" and 17" tires only cost you below RM300... those tires are not as good as your PP2 that you are using currently except Hankook V12 and Kumho KU31, they are close but i do not think they are still under RM300 now because recent price hike on all the tires...

if not skip 16" and 17" all tire shop will keep on asking you to upgrade... it is a lame excuse... your FC will be poorer and also u will feel sluggish on acceleration if your rims is much heavier than the stock...

since you use to Michelin PP2... and you want it to be quiet (not quite), lasting and reasonable... y not trying the new PS3 at that size... should cost you less than RM250/pc kua... it is better than PP2 is every aspect, better grip in wet and dry, more lasting and a lil more comfort... although is noise department might be a lil more noisier but i found it is compensate by all the advantages...
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Thanks Michael. Do you know how much is Michelin PS3 and Kumho KU31 in 205/45R16? How is Hankook V8? They quote me V8 RM300 for 205/45R16 and RM360 for V12 205/40R17. What different between rotated tire and directional tire? I'm really noob on this,so need some advice from professional like you. Hahaha laugh.gif
Edwin89
post Apr 24 2011, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Apr 23 2011, 08:29 AM)
not sure leh... Klang u can go to Jalan Kapar... Ban Hooi or Hin Leong...

185/55 R15... that tire i throw away after 50% wear... the grip in wet is sucks, down slope i brake slowly also it activated my ABS... after change to Michelin PP2, Hankook V12, now Michelin PS3 no such problem... even my PP2 wears until the thread indicator it's grip in wet is definitely better than NCT5...
if you wanna have comfort... C Drive 2 is for you... never trusted Conti tires after 1 set, give me problem only... CC5 is a new tire but it is also an entree level tire, so it does not attracts me... i'm more prefer towards premium comfort or performance tires... as it the performance of both is better than entree level...
skip Bridgestone MY-01 or the turanza series, Conti CC1/CC5/SC1, Yokohama A Drive, Michelin XM1/Certis, Goodyear NCT5/Exellence/Assurance and some others... those grip is ok ok although it's description is written with nice flowerish things but the grip isn't that good...

Yokohama C Drive 2 have this size meh??? hmmm might consider it also if it has... i also need a soft tire for my conti...

my prefer tire for 185/55 R15 Michelin PS3, this size is a lil odd also so many ppl change to other 195/50 R15 (alternative for 185/55 R15, closest size to it) or even 195/55 R15 (more comfort, a lil larger than ori size)..
for 195/50 R15 or 195/55 R15 u can try few others like Yokohama C Drive 2, Michelin Primacy LC, Hankook Blackbird V2, Continental Premium Contact 2(premium comfort range)... then the performance range (performance tires normally a lil noisy and not as comfort as the premium comfort) u can choose Michelin PS3, Federal 595 Evo, Toyo T1R or DRB, Hankook V12, Kumho ESPT (KU-31)... happy surveying...
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Do you you know how much is Toyo T1R for 205/50R16? Heard my friends said Toyo is quite good,but expensive right? If you were me Yokohama C Drive 2,Hankook V12 and Kumho KU31 which one you'll choose and what's the price for that? Thank for your help

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post Apr 25 2011, 06:05 PM

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[quote=michael9413,Apr 24 2011, 04:33 PM]
that tire... not good in wet as i heard of... and noisy... Michelin PS3 will be better than it...
it has soft sidewall, so it is comfort but not good for high speed corner... the dry traction is ok, but wet is not as good as PS3 and Hankook V12 too... further more it is more expensive than V12, so i'll take V12 anytime for the value... PS3 should be around it's price too... so i couldn't convince myself to try it when i wanna change my tires last time...

Hankook V12 do not have 205/50 R16... for me I can try both C Drive 2 or KU31... if you prefer comfort i think u better not upgrade to 16" as the tires is not as comfort as you get in 15"... for 15" u can try to put 195/55 R15 to get more comfort... and the tires is cheaper by around RM100/pc too... Hankook V12 205/45 R15 RM300++ but 195/55 R15 around RM220... PS3 195/55 R15 is around RM260 but 205/50 R16 is more than RM400...

if you are not willing to pay more than RM300/tire pls stay put at 15" as the price increase the good tires at 16" will increase also... current 16" tires is more than RM300 already last time you still find Hankook V12, V8rs or Kumho KU-31 is lower than it... but now it seems the price increase has push them above RM300 already...

further more you concern about the rim bent, lower profile tires will get cause that too... not only lightweight rims... then you FC, acceleration will be affect too...because of 16" u need more torque to turn the more heavy wheels, then u press ur accelerator harder, so ur FC will turn poorer too...

it is individual choice... i put my stand at 15" coz i'm not willing to pay more than RM300/tire, i do not want to affect my FC too much, i do not want my FC increase by much too (although PS3 will increase your FC already)... lastly i do not wan the bent rim problem to0 coz the lower profile the tire is the more bumpy will be too...
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u cannot fit 205/50 R16 into your City coz it is more than 3% of your OE (stock) size... maximum u can only fit 205/45 R16...


Michelin is a bit expensive for me sad.gif . Maybe I'll go for Hankook. I checked in Hankook website,even 195/50R16 also don't have right? I don't where I can find the Kumho dealer in Penang leh. hmm.gif Anyway, thanks for your advice Michael.

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