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post Jun 10 2009, 02:08 PM, updated 17y ago

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Does anybody know how to check whether Developer uses below par material quality to build a house/condo?

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post Jun 10 2009, 03:29 PM

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well, we can only check visible defects like cracked tiles, walls or so forth.
for water leakage, we can only check during a rainny day.

otherwise it's quite hard to check those defects beyond our eyes can see. unless u wana knock on the wall or tiles to hear any hollow sound which proves poor workmanship.



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post Jun 10 2009, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ah liew @ Jun 10 2009, 03:29 PM)
well, we can only check visible defects like cracked tiles, walls or so forth.
for water leakage, we can only check during a rainny day.

otherwise it's quite hard to check those defects beyond our eyes can see. unless u wana knock on the wall or tiles to hear any hollow sound which proves poor workmanship.
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noted that there are a lot of housing development using sand bricks rather then red bricks... any difference in terms of quality?
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post Jun 10 2009, 07:41 PM

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as i know sand bricks is the low quality 1



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post Jun 10 2009, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(vvn0vvn @ Jun 10 2009, 05:09 PM)
noted that there are a lot of housing development using sand bricks rather then red bricks... any difference in terms of quality?
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yes, in fact safety quality.
red bricks are more for fire protection but it cost higher than sand bricks, so it depends on the developer's budget.

i forgot to mention that there are different ways to check on housing & apartment work quality.
basically apartment has more to worry like pipping systems above you because u share the roof of the neighbour above u. in singapore is even worst because some HDB flats have integrated some gas pipping in the wall, a boy got killed during his sleep because of a leaking gas pipe.
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post Jun 11 2009, 12:26 AM

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OMG !!!
With the feedback from here, it seems Developer can get away walking freely to the Bank without any responsibility... even the house/condo quality is way below sub-par...
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post Jun 11 2009, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Jun 11 2009, 12:26 AM)
OMG !!!
With the feedback from here, it seems Developer can get away walking freely to the Bank without any responsibility... even the house/condo quality is way below sub-par...
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yeah, problem is there is no strict regulation imposed on the standard of quality... developer can sell you at sky high price yet using all the low quality material. I&P selling double storey houses approx half a million yet they are using sand bricks for construction grumble.gif in the end the house buyer is the one who is suffering...
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QUOTE(vvn0vvn @ Jun 10 2009, 06:09 PM)
noted that there are a lot of housing development using sand bricks rather then red bricks... any difference in terms of quality?
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If you let me choose I will rather stay in a processed sand brick house. Why? Because it got better noise filthering then the red bricks house.
Most of the developer will use "processed" sand brick to construct the structure. I even come across that sometimes when the sand brick is not enough, they substitute it with a few red brick..... which you could see a few red dots from far before the house is completed or painted.

but sometimes good quality material also no use... got one time i went view the koi tropica unit... the tiles they're using ain't bad at all... is just the skillmanship.... yieaks.... so ugly...!

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QUOTE(vvn0vvn @ Jun 11 2009, 09:35 AM)
yeah, problem is there is no strict regulation imposed on the standard of quality... developer can sell you at sky high price yet using all the low quality material. I&P selling double storey houses approx half a million yet they are using sand bricks for construction  grumble.gif  in the end the house buyer is the one who is suffering...
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Actually you can opt for properties with Conquas status which is very strict. as the standard is strict, obviously contractor will priced it higher, which in turn will cost developer more which in turn will cost you more.

If you are smart consumer, you should ask all the questions before you committed to a property. Ask them from A to Z, furthermore, all materials are stated in S&P, if it's different from S&P, you can sued developer.

As for your example of double storey house, it is no brainer that they use sand bricks as there's no requirement for them to use clay bricks for party wall as it'll cost much more & only act as partition. BTW i don't see any problem with using of sand bricks.

Developers are about business, so it's for sure they'll maximize profit.
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QUOTE(vvn0vvn @ Jun 11 2009, 09:35 AM)
yeah, problem is there is no strict regulation imposed on the standard of quality... developer can sell you at sky high price yet using all the low quality material. I&P selling double storey houses approx half a million yet they are using sand bricks for construction  grumble.gif  in the end the house buyer is the one who is suffering...
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It's a deal between the developer & contractor.
I bought my house during construction period & started the instalment.

Developer will issue letters regarding the progress of the house, whereby the letter will mention: roof, walls, road had completed or half completion & etc.
The letter shall state the material as well (red or sand brick)
But make sure to ask the developer about the material, location, neighbour info, quality of land before purchasing. It's very important. Unless u bought a 2nd hand or lelong house or apartment, thats a different scenario.

I was privileged to sneak in to the site area whereby it's confirmed the contractor had used red bricks on my house. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ah liew @ Jun 11 2009, 02:28 PM)
It's a deal between the developer & contractor.
I bought my house during construction period & started the instalment.

Developer will issue letters regarding the progress of the house, whereby the letter will mention: roof, walls, road had completed or half completion & etc.
The letter shall state the material as well (red or sand brick)
But make sure to ask the developer about the material, location, neighbour info, quality of land before purchasing. It's very important. Unless u bought a 2nd hand or lelong house or apartment, thats a different scenario.

I was privileged to sneak in to the site area whereby it's confirmed the contractor had used red bricks on my house.  tongue.gif
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Normally the developer will bull around which is highlighted in Blue to entice prospect to put down the booking fees...

Can any forumer name developer company that build quality property???


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post Jun 14 2009, 07:22 AM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Jun 10 2009, 02:08 PM)
Does anybody know how to check whether Developer uses below par material quality to build a house/condo?

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arthurlwf,

So what??

A) Even if the material is good, the house is built on not so solid ground and the developer had not put enough soil into it and let it settled, you still will have crack wall.

B) Will the house be flooded???

For (A), you need to be very extra careful if the land is ex-tin mine ground. For ex-palm oil plantation, you need to know whether the house is on the low side or high side of the land. If it is on the low side, they need to put soil into it and let it settles.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jun 14 2009, 07:22 AM)
arthurlwf,

So what?? 

A) Even if the material is good, the house is built on not so solid ground and the developer had not put enough soil into it and let it settled, you still will have crack wall.

B) Will the house be flooded???

For (A), you need to be very extra careful if the land is ex-tin mine ground.  For ex-palm oil plantation, you need to know whether the house is on the low side or high side of the land.  If it is on the low side, they need to put soil into it and let it settles. 

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blink.gif For (A), I'm not quite sure how to find this information as Developer may hide certain information to sell the property... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Jun 14 2009, 02:08 AM)
Normally the developer will bull around which is highlighted in Blue to entice prospect to put down the booking fees...

Can any forumer name developer company that build quality property???
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Reputable developer cannot slimpy bull about it because it's against the law & involves life in risk of apartments collapsing casses.

Asiatic & IOI are good developers.
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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Jun 14 2009, 11:05 AM)
blink.gif For (A), I'm not quite sure how to find this information as Developer may hide certain information to sell the property... hmm.gif
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arthurlwf,

A) Ask some old timer around that area about what kind of ground that the house sit in.

B) Do not buy new house. Buy a few years old house.

C) Check around whether house in that area has a history cracked wall or flooded.

Buying NEW house in new area has it associated risks.

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