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TSakubaem
post Jun 9 2009, 02:54 PM, updated 17y ago

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This thread is created especially for those who want to share their tactics that they think very usefull and could help other managers to be success in Football Manager 2009. We could also discuss about how the tactics works and how to build a very good tactics.

Now i will share one of my own tactic that i build, inspired by Guardiola - real world tactic that have made the Barcelona team to be very successfull this season. I've just tested it with Man City, and here is the result when they play UEFA Cup qualifying round.

here some screen shot.

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and here is the tactic.
Barcelona 4-1-3-2

here are some of the tactical optional you guys can try and play with. These tactics I took from another FM forum. All of these tactics is refered to the document i've posted below.
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how to use the tactics above.
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First of all, i just want to tell you guys about tactical teorem in Football Manager 2009.

The tactical engine in Football Manager 2009 is the very best i've ever seen in this world. It can generate
a very Real World like tactics, that we always seen in TV or stadium. This engine is build according to
what we set on the sliders. Any tweak on the sliders could effect the whole game. So the most important
thing that we as a manager should know is:-
a) The right tactic to tackle a situation.
b) How to set the tactic correctly in the Football Manager 2009.

Most of us managers knows a simple tactical knowledge for example the famous 4-4-2 attacking or the
4-5-1 mourinho style, but do we all really know how to set it correctly in Football Manager 2009?

Alright everything that i've learned about the game, i have taken from many forum and experimented it in the game
combining with ideas that i always adopt from real world football. I've manage to try and use the benitez's 5x5 theory,
as well as Mourinho's 4-5-1 Nike defense. Most of it i got from THIS document. The document explain well
about how you will create your own tactics. I suggest you guys should read that document first to better understand
the term FCa, FCs, FCd .... until DCa, DCs, DCd. Then u can create your own tactics.

As for now, i will just explain in general about tactical in Football Manager 2009.

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-to be continue-

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post Jun 9 2009, 03:05 PM

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wow. 13? im not so sure. something is fishy, it is not only the tactics. that team should have been damn weak.

my biggest result was 5-0 i think. or 6-0. playing with Milan, n using the 4-1-2-1-2 the diamond. although i did change in the individual settings, to suit each position according to my own player positioning.

might try your tactic. although it takes the team a while till they get adjusted to a new tactic, n play in full potential.
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:26 PM

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the printscreen i'm showing is not about the score... the team i'm facing is very 16x weak after all... the thing i'm showing is the statistic...

if you look at it, my team perform well because of dominating the game... i manage to dominate the possesion by playing a simple short pass, just like Barcelona do... And the top players in Barcelona like messi, eto, henry and iniesta's playing type, i put it in to suit the likes of SWP, Marquinhos, Robinho and Elano...

Later i will tell you guys how to build your own tactic the way you prefer in Football Manager 2009.
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:44 PM

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wow! 13?? rclxms.gif cool. how bout other match?
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post Jun 9 2009, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(entahla @ Jun 9 2009, 03:44 PM)
wow! 13??  rclxms.gif  cool. how bout other match?
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lol, me myself get shock to get the result to be honest sweat.gif, mostly the game before i only manage to get 6-0 the most, but because this result really shock me, i think maybe i should paste it here to shock you guys as well icon_rolleyes.gif ...
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post Jun 9 2009, 09:50 PM

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im playing with portsmouth..
last season got no4 spot..
i used the 4-2-2-4 tactic... 2 - dm and 2 - winger..
i use narrow, short pass, normal speed.. really work well against big 4.

but starting this season this tactic no longer working.. rite now no.11(january oredi)..

dont know why my player cant perform even i used the same player last season and this season sweat.gif
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post Jun 10 2009, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(watever-u-like @ Jun 9 2009, 09:50 PM)
im playing with portsmouth..
last season got no4 spot..
i used the 4-2-2-4 tactic... 2 - dm and 2 - winger..
i use narrow, short pass, normal speed.. really work well against big 4.

but starting this season this tactic no longer working.. rite now no.11(january oredi)..

dont know why my player cant perform even i used the same player last season and this season sweat.gif
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usually people, will play narrow for more defensive approach. This type of tactic will tight that goal area where an attacking team get little space to shoot from there, and at the same time when the opposition lose possesion the team could do damage on counter attacking. Maybe thats why you get good result againts big 4. But if you play like this againts the team that you suppose to be winning like west brom, its hard for you to win because they will sit there and wait for you to attack.

How bout you share your tactic here, and maybe if not me or someone else can show you where is the problem in your tactical approach.

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post Jun 10 2009, 05:16 PM

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formation
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last season with the same tactic, i manage to finish in 4th, now im in 12th.. vmad.gif
feel wanna cheat and restart all over again, but oredi in 2011/2012 season.. sweat.gif
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post Jun 10 2009, 06:09 PM

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can u send the *.tac file... i also need to see your setting for each of your individual...
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post Jun 10 2009, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(akubaem @ Jun 10 2009, 06:09 PM)
can u send the *.tac file... i also need to see your setting for each of your individual...
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use mediafire --> here

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post Jun 12 2009, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(watever-u-like @ Jun 10 2009, 06:27 PM)
use mediafire --> here
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from what i can see here, your defensive line stay too far behind your midfielder & stikers, the gap there will be expose... Try to read my document that i posted above...

you should know that mentality is vital to create a good tactic.. you should also know the defination of FCs & MCs... the function of those player i will say in general is to link between stiker and midfield, and between midfield and defenders.. take for example in last time england pair owen & heskey, heskey is the FCs, he is the linkage player to get the ball from the midfield into forward. He's also the holding forward which hold the ball until the cavalry arrive. The MCs is usually the DM, but not a must... this we see most of the time in premierleague, example mascherano/alonso for liverpool, mikel/essien for chelsea, carrick/owen hargreve for man united, denilson/gallas for arsenal... this player defensively will be the first line of defense before the oppenent reach into your back 4.. in attacking this is the player that link and get the passing from the defender into midfield...

your passing setting in general is ok, but the setting is for a defensive minded tactic. Your, a defender will clear the ball more often, and will create a fast counter attack. this is good tactic againts a team that is better than yours..

but for attacking minded tactic, you should start to get a possession from the defense. Meaning the passing setting should be short for the defense, mixed for the midfield, and direct for the strikers. This is good tactic when your facing a lower team than yours...

All that i'm saying here already included in the document i've posted above, if you read them, you will understand most of what i'm saying.... after this i will post a couple of tactic, you should see how it set for the attacking, standard and defensive minded tactic.... try to play with it and try to create your own... have fun...

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post Jun 13 2009, 02:16 AM

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thanx. just downloaded the document, but maaan so many word..
i try to find a free time to read the document, and thanx 4 the review..

but sadly portsmouth sack me, so whatever.....
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post Jun 14 2009, 01:59 AM

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Hi guys, all are Football Manager 2009 players here??

I'm going to get a cd, install and play, or i can just download from internet??

And when will 2010 be released?? just wonder FM and CM, which one is better and why smile.gif
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post Jun 14 2009, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(watever-u-like @ Jun 13 2009, 02:16 AM)
thanx. just downloaded the document, but maaan so many word..
i try to find a free time to read the document, and thanx 4 the review..

but sadly portsmouth sack me, so whatever.....
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it is really helpful that document. im gonna print it in next days. lol. i made a 4-4-2. the classical one. but i have changed everything. defensive, attack, standard tactic.

Mentality, creativity, passing, crossing, etc. almost i made everything individually (per positoin). and didnt use anything as Global setting, (global mentality, global creativity, etc). so far friendly games (pre-season) are all wins.

Im playing with udinese. wanna play a real challenge. in two fixtures, ill play Milan. If i get positive outcome. gonna post the tactic. otherwise gonna keep it for myself. lol


Added on June 15, 2009, 12:05 am31.8.2008, San Siro

A.C. Milan Statistic Udinese
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16 Shots 6
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11 On Target 2
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5 Off Target 4
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1 Blocked Shots 1
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4 Clear Cut Chances 2
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47% Possession 53%
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2 Corners 2
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14 Free Kicks 23
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11 Throw-Ins 15
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9 Fouls 10
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14 Offsides 4
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80% Passes Completed 70%
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25% Crosses Completed 30%
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84% Tackles Won 88%
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63% Headers Won 43%
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0 Yellow Cards 0
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0 Red Cards 0
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(watever-u-like @ Jun 13 2009, 02:16 AM)
thanx. just downloaded the document, but maaan so many word..
i try to find a free time to read the document, and thanx 4 the review..

but sadly portsmouth sack me, so whatever.....
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hmm, just start and play with a new game man... We'll guide you through the tactical of your new team, but for the player, you should know which player to pick... wink.gif


QUOTE(zs3889 @ Jun 14 2009, 01:59 AM)
Hi guys, all are Football Manager 2009 players here??

I'm going to get a cd, install and play, or i can just download from internet??

And when will 2010 be released?? just wonder FM and CM, which one is better and why  smile.gif
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dude, you are out of topic...


QUOTE(night_wolf_in @ Jun 14 2009, 02:08 AM)
it is really helpful that document. im gonna print it in next days. lol. i made a 4-4-2. the classical one. but i have changed everything. defensive, attack, standard tactic.

Mentality, creativity, passing, crossing, etc. almost i made everything individually (per positoin). and didnt use anything as Global setting, (global mentality, global creativity, etc). so far friendly games (pre-season) are all wins.

Im playing with udinese. wanna play a real challenge. in two fixtures, ill play Milan. If i get positive outcome. gonna post the tactic. otherwise gonna keep it for myself. lol

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I'm glad you like it... the document help me alot in determining my own tactics... but be sure that you assess your opponent first before going on what type of tactical mentality to play... if you make a good decision, you should be surprise of what the outcome will be...

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post Jun 15 2009, 10:59 AM

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I have trouble installing my Football Manager 2009. Please advice. Thanks =)
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post Jun 15 2009, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(dpacemaker @ Jun 15 2009, 10:59 AM)
I have trouble installing my Football Manager 2009. Please advice. Thanks =)
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again out of topic, this thread talk about tactics... plz go to other Football Manager 2009 thread to ask about this...
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post Jun 15 2009, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(akubaem @ Jun 15 2009, 11:14 AM)
again out of topic, this thread talk about tactics... plz go to other Football Manager 2009 thread to ask about this...
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But the other thread is closed...
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post Jun 15 2009, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(dpacemaker @ Jun 15 2009, 11:50 AM)
But the other thread is closed...
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its not close, go and try it out...
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post Jun 15 2009, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(akubaem @ Jun 15 2009, 10:04 AM)
hmm, just start and play with a new game man... We'll guide you through the tactical of your new team, but for the player, you should know which player to pick...  wink.gif
dude, you are out of topic...
I'm glad you like it... the document help me alot in determining my own tactics... but be sure that you assess your  opponent first before going on what type of tactical mentality to play... if you make a good decision, you should be surprise of what the outcome will be...
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ya, picking the right players was the toughest thing to do. speically that im playing with a club, i dont really know their good players. So im struggling.

choosing tactics is difficult. but so far, i have better possision than any team i played against. Even when i played against Juve (current leader) n i managed a draw. although i lost against Inter. Sigh, n they gave me 5million to buy players with. lol.

gonna upload the tactics soon.

I think one of the most important things, are the Forward Runs, Mentality, and type of passing. cause at each situation, you would need your players to have different set.



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