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 AMD/ATI Radeon™ HD 4000 Series Discussion v6, The time moves on..Prepare HD5000 Series

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post Apr 18 2009, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(ooiwbng @ Apr 18 2009, 01:30 AM)
i dun think 550w psu has enuf juice? eventhough its a ayam brand nor branded 1 its doesnt haf enuf juice..in order to get 4890 up and running stablely u nid at least 600w ++..but dun understand lerh ur post...ur rig using 550w to run 4890? its cukup2 nia dun OC liao
a true power 550w could run an overclocked HD4870x2 just fine.

so how would it not be able to run an OCed HD4890?
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post May 14 2009, 12:29 AM

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sad.gif my AC Accelero S1 mounting points don't fit my HD4770.
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post May 14 2009, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 14 2009, 02:25 AM)
how far the mismatch of the mounting hole?


far enough to be obvious.

anyway, this one looks like the HD4770 3rd party cooler.

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalog/prod...256&language=en

but seriously la, the HD4770 is already so cooling, I don't see the need for 3rd party cooler. biggrin.gif
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post May 14 2009, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 14 2009, 09:47 AM)
for the price of 4770, if u add a 3rd party cooler,
why not just get a better card for the cost?
like what? HD4850?

no point la. HD4770 itself also perform well already, much lower cost.

and you can still OC it, and even so the temps are very good even with ref heatsink!

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post May 15 2009, 12:43 AM

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i always stress test with furmark to see how far the heatsink can take.
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post May 15 2009, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ May 15 2009, 11:58 AM)
To be honest, ATI Tools is more than enough for artifact scanning and you gotta love the artifact detection ability it has. Set it to scan for artifacts and you can crank up your overclocking slider. Want a stress test? Might as well play a game for long hours, see what happens. It always works for me  laugh.gif .


long hour gaming doesn't push the heat level that high and fast like furmark.

stability test - yeah i'll use games.
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post May 16 2009, 08:30 PM

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when i sell off my HD4770 is when 9.5 released tongue.gif can't test CF already but can still test single card.

HD4890 still rawks.
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post May 16 2009, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(power.avenger @ May 16 2009, 08:28 PM)
can anyone help me...

i have a budget about 1000 to buy a new gc...so then i decided to buy a 4890..but my fren suggest me to buy 4770 CF..

4890 : rm900++
4770 CF : rm800++

he said dat 4770 CF perform lot better than a single 4890fyi
either way also you get similar performance.

from my tests, HD4890 still lead in many cases.

I believe the HD4770 CF will lead if you have x16/x16 crossfire speed like X38 / X48 / X58 chipset but your board is on x8 / x8 which is like my P45. smile.gif
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QUOTE(power.avenger @ May 16 2009, 09:11 PM)
really? i tot it was x16/x16 according to dis : msi 790FX-GD70

or i just misunderstood? rclxub.gif

btw, some good info to share

4770 CF

howdayatthink? blink.gif
QUOTE(pikacu @ May 16 2009, 10:03 PM)
790FX chipset is 16x/16x when crossfire smile.gif
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sorry guys, my mistake to some extent........... but to say 16x/16 when crossfire isn't exactly correct too.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboa...si-790fx-gd70/3

apparently the x8 is only when all 4 is used. smile.gif not entirely wrong though.

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There's native ATI CrossFire-X support, naturally, but all four running together are limited to PCI-Express 2.0 x8 bandwidth, but just a standard pair cards still runs at the full x16 using the top slot and the third one down.


so yeah, CF 2 units - x16 / x16. CF 4 units x8 / x8.
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post May 19 2009, 12:04 AM

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chinook's Q&A is now at http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1034734


Added on May 19, 2009, 12:05 am
QUOTE(HL Milk @ May 18 2009, 06:57 PM)
I always got no luck with Catalyst Overdrive for my 4850, or should I say nightmare OC with it. I need to restart the PC even with 5Mhz of memory or core OC. Whereas Rivatuner give me stable OC from my testing at those speed or higher. But I would rather save the OC, not much performance difference, by softmod, that is my point of view.
yeah which is why i stopped doing GC OCing. too little gain for so much time spent.

however, i must say that i found that cards like HD4830 did show quite some improvement with a little OCing.

i didn't OC the HD4770 btw.


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post May 19 2009, 01:19 AM

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similar, actually HD4830 is more like the 9800GT.
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ May 25 2009, 03:17 PM)
hi bro, i just want to ask.. now im using Sapphire 4890 and my psu is corsair tx650w... if i want to crossfire with other 4890, can my psu handle it??
i don't think it's a problem. my 550w i can CF the HD4890 + HD4830 (i didn't try with HD4850 yet) and it's all fine. so you're on 650w so that's plenty of headroom.


Added on May 25, 2009, 6:21 pm
QUOTE(midnightproject @ May 25 2009, 12:07 AM)
wanna ask.4830 n 3870.which one get better perfomance..
i'm very noob about Ati gc  sweat.gif
HD4830 straight.


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post May 26 2009, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ May 25 2009, 07:26 PM)
gold, whats your system load wattage in OC mode for proc+both gpu?
which setup? tongue.gif my readings taken from PSU wor.

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post May 29 2009, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ May 29 2009, 12:39 AM)
ey guys, im planning to play my games on 1920 x1080..

should i get:

a) 4870 gddr5 512mb
b) 4850 gddr3 1024mb?

i know that ram size matters in higher resolution.. but what about performance wise? susah la like this
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ultimately still the HD4870 512mb will be faster than HD4850 1GB. just that the HD4850 1GB works a little faster than HD4850 512MB on higher res.......... but generally at higher res, the HD4850 core / mem speed and mem bandwidth will already bog it down compared to HD4870.


Added on May 29, 2009, 1:34 ambtw a point to note, comparing within same brand, HD4850 1GB is still a few hundred RM cheaper than HD4870 512MB. do you think the HD4850 1GB will still be faster? i don't think so.

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post May 29 2009, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(rosihan @ May 29 2009, 02:33 PM)
if cf 4850
izzit better than 4870?
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in case you guys missed it........

user posted image

HD4770 and HD4830 is pretty close to HD4850, look at the HD4830 and HD4770 crossfire setup - matches the HD4890! smile.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 08:42 AM)
4870 512mb will be ok.. unless >20reso
that's generalization - many games actually work fine with HD4870 on >20" reso. heck if you go by inches, it's not accurate either cos 22" also 1680x1050. some 21.5 are 1920x1080.

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post May 29 2009, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 04:05 PM)
it's not inch btw.. 2560 reso..
25reso typo..
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k. like that then most cards also cannot la.

logical thinking is this.

if you spend a lot on monitor, meaning the reso is high.

then the graphic setup will also have to scale the same way in cost to achieve decent framerate. smile.gif


QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 29 2009, 04:05 PM)
i use both 4870 512 & 1GB.
the performance different is noticeable wen AA is crank up.
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yup - more RAM on higher ranked GPU sure got some advantage wan la. smile.gif
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post May 30 2009, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 29 2009, 04:10 PM)
if gamer dun mind AA, there is little if not no different between 1GB & 512 version.
but again, if user dun mind crank up AA much, better just go for gtx260.
usually 2x AA is fine, some games 4x AA also ok wan.

QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 29 2009, 04:10 PM)
4870 usually dun perform dat well once resolution goes above 1900 * 1200
like what i mentioned earlier, if one spends that much on monitor, the spending on GC should scale along to cope with it.

QUOTE(itanium @ May 29 2009, 07:28 PM)
Dilemma.....if buy 4770 x 2 units...mobo have to change too..sigh...wat cheap socket 775 P45 mobo with 2 x pci-e ar?
RM 310 like that. smile.gif Jetway.

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post Jun 8 2009, 12:29 AM

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POST = Power On Self Test.

yes, I have a HD4890 with me and when you on, it'll go sort of like full speed. then once the rest of the system kick in, it goes normal.
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post Jun 10 2009, 04:49 PM

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k. i is moves it back. LOL. i lz to explain how or why it happened.
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post Jun 10 2009, 05:04 PM

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HD4770 la. out already mah............

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