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post Apr 13 2009, 11:37 PM

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richard3200 : actually, since you're still growing and still young enough to have a good metabolic rate, you may want to start it out slow. Just follow the simple guideline below :
-reduce fried food until it's out of your diet
-reduce sugar by half each time
-reduce rice until finally 2 tablespoon
-eat more vegetables
-eat more fruits

Don't worry about the other stuff. It will come to you in time and as you slowly get used to watching what to eat and all. It may take 1-2 weeks to get used to not only the food but watching the food.


Added on April 13, 2009, 11:39 pm
QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 13 2009, 11:31 PM)
oh I may just hv to call you wikisan now tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 13 2009, 08:13 PM)
hi dokidoki,

errr... we are serious? >.> don't think so. we tempt each other with bygone days of delicious fatty food...

I guess the best thing is to track everyday then. smile.gif there's a members journal area you know. tongue.gif

The most we do is try to motivate each other on.

Although, having said that, anyone seen Clarkfann around? Her bday came last week and she has been pretty silent since. Hope she's ok.
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i got a journal here...but lazy to update..now i update this myfitness pal also lazy tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 13 2009, 11:28 PM)
Nothing. I just eat it plain. Never got into the habit of putting butter or jam or kaya. TBH, I can't quite take sweet stuff. My Mum controlled my sugar intake when I was young so now as an adult, I don't take sweet stuff as much.

Hmm...but I sometimes do put a cheesespread over it, either cream cheese or cottage cheese. Then makan like that. I read the product labels for carbo, sugar, fat and calorie.

With butter hmm.... I'm not sure if you can get it but an alternative is either soy butter or olive butter. But compare the calories and fat first.
Yep and you'll need to exercise more if you want to continue to drink them. Usually, for weight loss, it's put aside for the time being.
I don't. Too much hassle. I just :'
-control food portions
-know what food is ok and not ok

Then I just go with that.

kaya : is very rich with sugar + eggs. The eggs maybe not so much of a problem if you're exercising regularly. But the sugar is bad.

fishball : either it's too much fat or too much flour (processed wheat is simple carbo). Sometimes a bit of sugar in here as well as pork fat.

guava : eating this is fine but too much and you find that you can't shit as often as before. It's something about this fruit but as long as you don't eat it for every meal or 5 days once, should be alrite.

\fish curry with long beans : curry bought from shop or eat at home? jaga the sugar in the curry sauce as well as the coconut milk. it's possible to eat curry without coconut milk and sugar but it's not easy. My granny makes it from the paste, not from the powder.

kompiang : err....processed white flour is big on carbo. potatoes too (unless it's sweet potato). hmm...kompiang is also deep fried rite?

donuts : process white flour + sugar?

sugar in coffee : errr, may want to cut down.

May take it a step at a time. It's not easy to turn a new leave and I gave myself one week of slowly moving into the new diet. You will also find that you have some trouble initially fighting off cravings because when you slowly move away from refined carbo, your body will crave for it more. Headaches, aches and pain may also appear butonce you're over this period (usually a few days to a week), it's easier.
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shocking.gif ... From small till now, i still put kaya spread on it. Normally comes with peanut butter or strawberry jam.

Wiki-san, what do u mean by 5 days once? Means 5 days only can eat 1 time? blink.gif . My school canteen is really terrible. They got 4 stalls . 2 malays , 1 chinese and 1 indian. I normally only visit the chinese and indians ones and i dont think those malays stalls will sell anything better than these 2 stalls . BUT they all have the FIXED variable, that they don't sell any vegetables . I am thinking for those vegetarian how they gonna survive in the school for 5 years unless they eat bread and fruits daily. For now, i only saw 2 fruits that this chinese stall is selling which are the watermelons and guava.

For the fish curry, is self-cooked . My mum will cook daily unless it is on the weekends and my mum don't put any MSG or coconut milks in the curry. She, herself, is quite health conscious . She uses organic salt, olive oil, and brown rice for cooking.

The kompiang is not deeply fried . They are cooked using the heat in 1 kind of special oven. For the donuts and kompiang, yea white flour.

I think till now this is the best i can do.


Added on April 13, 2009, 11:50 pm
QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 13 2009, 11:37 PM)
richard3200 : actually, since you're still growing and still young enough to have a good metabolic rate, you may want to start it out slow. Just follow the simple guideline below :
-reduce fried food until it's out of your diet
-reduce sugar by half each time
-reduce rice until finally 2 tablespoon
-eat more vegetables
-eat more fruits

Don't worry about the other stuff. It will come to you in time and as you slowly get used to watching what to eat and all. It may take 1-2 weeks to get used to not only the food but watching the food.


Added on April 13, 2009, 11:39 pm

oh don't u start now  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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ohmy.gif 2 tablespoon of rice.... I gonna die in hunger with that. Eating more vegetables and fruits is not a problem with me. I forgot to add-on, i ate* mangoes at 7pm and 10pm just now. lol

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post Apr 13 2009, 11:57 PM

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I forgot that you're still in high-school.

For recess, you could bring a snack from home. Different choices of food or even a sandwich. Speak to your Mum. I'm sure she can give you ideas. It doesn't have to include vegetables. It can be anything. The snack is only to tie you until your lunch meal so snacks shouldn't be too big. Plus, if you bring something from home, you will lose weight pretty fast because u're not taking oily food.

Guava : Too much guava is not a good idea. I was giving an example (but badly explained sorry) that if you ate guava once a day for a 5 day period, you're gong to have constipation problems. Guava has something inside it that hardens the stool.

Vegetarians : you're rite. They probably bring food everyday or they learn how to control their break hunger. I stop eating at recess starting Form 1. But can still put on weight because not exercising enough.

Your curry : sounds ok. Sinc eyou said your Mum is health conscious, should be ok.

Kompiang : Well, don't eat it too often should be fine.

I think if you bring a small packed meal during recess, you can easily see the weightloss drop, especially with the walking that you're doing.

Postnote : LOL! You type fast. Well, if you can't limit to 2 tablespoon of rice, take it slowly. Just reduce what you can for rice intake.

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post Apr 14 2009, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 13 2009, 11:57 PM)
I forgot that you're still in high-school.

For recess, you could bring a snack from home. Different choices of food or even a sandwich. Speak to your Mum. I'm sure she can give you ideas. It doesn't have to include vegetables. It can be anything. The snack is only to tie you until your lunch meal so snacks shouldn't be too big. Plus, if you bring something from home, you will lose weight pretty fast because u're not taking oily food.

Guava : Too much guava is not a good idea. I was giving an example (but badly explained sorry) that if you ate guava once a day for a 5 day period, you're gong to have constipation problems. Guava has something inside it that hardens the stool.

Vegetarians : you're rite. They probably bring food everyday or they learn how to control their break hunger. I stop eating at recess starting Form 1. But can still put on weight because not exercising enough.

Your curry : sounds ok. Sinc eyou said your Mum is health conscious, should be ok.

Kompiang : Well, don't eat it too often should be fine.

I think if you bring a small packed meal during recess, you can easily see the weightloss drop, especially with the walking that you're doing.

Postnote : LOL! You type fast. Well, if you can't limit to 2 tablespoon of rice, take it slowly. Just reduce what you can for rice intake.
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Is quite hard for me to bring small packed meal from home. I think is like only 0.5% of the community in my school who brings packed meal from home [ i even doubt there is 0.5% , most probably i can count them using my fingers and toes] . Maybe trying to stop eating during recess is still the best way. Anyway this is my last year in high school.

Sidenote: I am addicted to online games since i was standard 6 and sticking my butt on the chair during the holidays that's why my weight is rising every year and my typing skills too. LOL. But my addiction to online games is no more. Quitted all of them and concentrating in studies for my last year of high school.
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post Apr 14 2009, 12:38 AM

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You know what? the word kompiang strikes me, i just came back from a late class reached home, the first thing i saw on the table - kompiang, so my dominant right hand naturally try to grab it but my left hand somehow slapped my right hand to stop it. (angel vs demon situation)

If you know what kompiang is made of you must know you should avoid at all cost, it's FLOURRRRR, + Larkkk + More pig's fattest possible part inside.

Yes, i have a few vegetarian friend, they always bring their own food, it taste so good that sometimes if he has extra we will steal it and eat xD.

If you are given a chance, join in food preparation process you should have a clear picture what is the good and the bad. Note: my house's cooking has 'zero' sugar. Maybe it's just me, food with sugar taste AWFUL, happens to visit Taiwan years ago and those heavily advertised food by Jacky Woo aint my taste at all, all taste so sweet.


Added on April 14, 2009, 12:41 amFor the bread spread, you might opt for cheese, slice for lazy one. Bake them = omg

Butter + kaya = well kaya = sugar + sugar + more sugar, witness the process of making it, almost faint. I only take butter, anti margerine, you can mix with peanut butter too, quite fattening too.

I ate mostly without spread nowadays, putting eggs, meats and vegetable on it, makes it looks nice and certainly taste nice.
Note sure about tuna, wanted to try someday. Goose liver, those bought from Europe were finished, not sure bout the label and calories, since it is internal organs should have high fats.

My mom homemade a pineapple jam too, certainly jam without some addictive dont taste as good as those you bought in the supermarket, not sure what she didn't put, but i like the texture of the jam and not so sweet like commercial one

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post Apr 14 2009, 09:03 AM

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richard3200 : you sound shy bringing a food container to school. smile.gif It's a girlie thing, no? smile.gif You'll be surprise when you go out and work, the number of guys who bring packed lunches from home smile.gif. Anyway, it's something that you have to decide for yourself. You know our stand, it's up to you now to decide what you want to do - your health or your pride (what makes you shy to bring food container to school).

I'm going to stop here. If I tell you more stuff, you may get too confuse. And from your posts, I get the feeling that you are getting there. Give yourself 2 weeks to get used to the change in food eating :

-reduce deep fried food until it's out of your diet. eat maybe once a week?
-reduce sugar by half each time
-reduce rice until finally 2 tablespoon, but if not, just reduce by half
-eat more vegetables
-eat more fruits

Talk to your Mum. She may help you out.


Added on April 14, 2009, 9:11 am
QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 14 2009, 12:38 AM)
My mom homemade a pineapple jam too, certainly jam without some addictive dont taste as good as those you bought in the supermarket, not sure what she didn't put, but i like the texture of the jam and not so sweet like commercial one
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OO Recipe please share share. smile.gif Wanna try making it.


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post Apr 14 2009, 09:33 AM

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8.00am
Wake up, dynamic stretch 5 min, 10x Squat, 10x Push up, 10x Sit up, some random exercise 5 min, mandi kerbau, HL Choco milk 300ml, fly motorbike to work.

9.00am
Neslo + Oatmeal
1 slice Gardenia Green

11.15am
2 table spoon Glucose (before gym)

11.30am
10 min bicycle, level 3 95rpm; 10 min rowing; 10 min walk-staircase, level 1; dynamic + static stretch 5 min; Today only burnt 250kCal, elliptical under maintenance $#(*$(#*

1.00pm
3x gardenia + 2x sayur + 1x beansprout + 1x fry egg.

2.30pm
fry lobak kuih + laici pudding + papaya

4.00pm
Neslo + 1x love letter chocolate roll

6.30pm
Marry Brown mash potato ® + coselaw ® + 1/2 packet fries + 1/2 packet nuggets + 500ml HL choco milk.

8.00pm - 10.00pm
Taekwondo Training.

11.00pm
Back from Taekwondo. Tak tahan, drank another 100ml of HL chocolate milk.


Just wondering what's wrong with my diet.
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post Apr 14 2009, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ Apr 14 2009, 09:33 AM)
Just wondering what's wrong with my diet.
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You mean your problem about not losing the last few kg ?
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i do eat kaya early in the morning.... for my insulin spike? hehehe
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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 14 2009, 09:43 AM)
You mean your problem about not losing the last few kg ?
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hahaha, you commented in my blog that, my diet is scary.
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Your food choices are scary. It's just lucky that you have a good exercise regime to load everything all off.

It's no different from what we said before.

-Deep fried stuff are bad
-Go for food that are made fresh material e.g. vegetables and meat
-Desserts : Go for fruits.
-Do away with salads that come with dressing.
-Your diet is loaded up with a lot of carbs and sugar, most of them hidden. If you want to drop the last few kg, may have to reduce them more.
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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 14 2009, 10:28 AM)
Your food choices are scary. It's just lucky that you have a good exercise regime to load everything all off.

It's no different from what we said before.

-Deep fried stuff are bad
-Go for food that are made fresh material e.g. vegetables and meat
-Desserts : Go for fruits.
-Do away with salads that come with dressing.
-Your diet is loaded up with a lot of carbs and sugar, most of them hidden. If you want to drop the last few kg, may have to reduce them more.
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Gotcha! No wonder 3 weeks ago when I am trying to finish up the fruit coupon (as teabreak and dinner), I am able to reduce 2kg with the same amount of exercise.

thanks WIKI-san.
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It's about an energy balance.

Energy to exercise = Energy from Food + Energy from Body Fat

If you want to lose weight, u have to make sure that your body is getting energy from the body fat more than energy from food. Rather than just cut down on food quantities, you can do it by changing the type of foods that you're eating.

It's kinda a simplistic overview and more than a few people can get confuse.
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I underestimated the food kCal a lot. There are hidden sugar/carbo that I never considered.

I gotta study those GI thing already. Eating fruit make my body sux, as in I don't have enough energy to do continuous anaerobic exercise. Easily exhausted and pening.
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fruit contain fructose. Fructose is not favoured in muscle. The are converted into glycogen and stored in liver. To have energy for anaerobic exercise, you have to have glycogen in your muscle, which can broken from rice/oat (starchy grains).
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If fruits are bad, use veggies I guess. Or plan your food intake better and not so near your activity times. You sure do eat a lot, even for the small meals.

You may have to stop going to general diet sites and goto the ones that are more focus on athletes. Not bodybuilders or weightlifters or powerlifters. Just athletes.

I get the feeling that you might want to switch to drink supplements and a post-workout nutrition plan. Just to control your cravings which I suspect is coming from blood sugar levels rising up and down very fast from the activities that you're doing.

Hmm...am I giving too much advice to u?
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Apr 14 2009, 11:18 AM)
fruit contain fructose. Fructose is not favoured in muscle. The are converted into glycogen and stored in liver. To have energy for anaerobic exercise, you have to have glycogen in your muscle, which can broken from rice/oat (starchy grains).
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thanks mate

QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 14 2009, 11:19 AM)
Hmm...am I giving too much advice to u?
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My diet knowledge is way too simple. kCal burnt > kCal intake. But like that also I calculate wrong. haiyaa....
So, the more you advise, the more I rclxm9.gif
really appreciate your help WIKI-san. smile.gif


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gym time now.. js taken 2x love letter biscuit and 3 table spoon of glucose. Let's see if I can pump 600kCal later. brows.gif

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why love letter biscuit? convinience?
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I always over prepared my food, dont know how to estimate for single person serving. This is what i am having

* 2 spoon full cream milk powder
* 1 x egg fried with olive oil
* few slice of pork and chicken
* 1x carrot
* half of cucumber
* few slice of butter lettuce and cabbage
* 4 slices of Tesco Wholemeal Bread


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