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post Apr 13 2009, 04:15 PM

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50kcal ...tak cukup larh...at least 300kcal.....

get to the damn crosstrainer and give me 300....hehe
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post Apr 13 2009, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 13 2009, 02:24 PM)
Actually, hmm... wonder if we can "makeover" the nasi lemak to something healthy :

-brown rice
-roast chicken drumstick
-cucumber
-boiled peanuts
-boiled egg

But my head hurts thinking of how to prepare the sambal. Maybe just make the sambal as it is and just go with it. A small portion shouldn't contribute much to weight gain since the rice is not cook in coconut milk anymore no?
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I know a good nasi lemak with half the calories. It's called the same nasi lemak, half the portion tongue.gif

I think I love the taste of sambal in nasi lemak. or the smell of nostalgia. or the fact that me and The Husband once had nasi lemak everyday cause that was the only food that we could afford (rm 1/packet) back then. So no boiled peanuts or brown rice for me tongue.gif

I went to the gym during lunch hr to hit 4km in less than 30 mins (intervals - highest 12km/h, lowest 5.5km/h). now sweating buckets.
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post Apr 13 2009, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Apr 13 2009, 04:15 PM)
50kcal ...tak cukup larh...at least 300kcal.....

get to the damn crosstrainer and give me 300....hehe
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everyday add 300kCal? That will make 2100kCal
1 meal of dim sum got 2100kCal??!! icon_question.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ Apr 13 2009, 04:36 PM)
everyday add 300kCal? That will make 2100kCal
1 meal of dim sum got 2100kCal??!!  icon_question.gif
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I mean on the day you have dimsum.......I think one meal of dimsum will cost at least 300 kcal. One MCFillet will have 300-350Kcal.......

nowadays I feel the guilt of whacking fat stuff. there was a day, I went to eat 'lap' rice during lunch for department.

lap = chinese sausage, duck, etc.......


The same evening, I went for 75minutes cardio...........
work out until rclxub.gif

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post Apr 13 2009, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ Apr 13 2009, 03:40 PM)
I go out with gals to makan dim sum once a week. Like that I also lazy to calculate already, hahaha.

What oink oink? U mean what meat is that oink oink isit?
half fat half thin 1.

Me eat about 2 bowl tat day laugh.gif
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Dim sum + 2 bowls of more than 50% pork fat will make you not lose fat.

Dim sum has too much fat in it. Our body loves fat. Our brain loves fat. Our brain is MADE OF FAT. Sugar is another thing that our brain loves, although in the form of glucose.

The picture you posted earlier is known as the three-layered belly pork. The downside of this pig cut is that it's not the leanest part and that's quite a lot of fat you swallowed in those 2 bowls. The plus side is that it just tastes so darn good for being so darn bad (my favourite piece of the pork).

No wonder no drop in weight. Now you have to work harder this week.


Added on April 13, 2009, 5:50 pm
QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 13 2009, 04:21 PM)
I know a good nasi lemak with half the calories. It's called the same nasi lemak, half the portion tongue.gif

I think I love the taste of sambal in nasi lemak. or the smell of nostalgia. or the fact that me and The Husband once had nasi lemak everyday cause that was the only food that we could afford (rm 1/packet) back then. So no boiled peanuts or brown rice for me tongue.gif

I went to the gym during lunch hr to hit 4km in less than 30 mins (intervals - highest 12km/h, lowest 5.5km/h). now sweating buckets.
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Sigh. I haven't had a good plate of nasi lemak since I moved back to Sarawak. The sambal just isn't the same. Helps with weight control though. doh.gif doh.gif

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post Apr 13 2009, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Apr 13 2009, 05:28 PM)
The same evening, I went for 75minutes cardio...........
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haha, as far as i know, cardio above 60 minutes starts to burn protein. It's better to do slightly higher intensity and make it in 60 minutes.


QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 13 2009, 05:37 PM)
Dim sum + 2 bowls of more than 50% pork fat will make you not lose fat.

Dim sum has too much fat in it. Our body loves fat. Our brain loves fat. Our brain is MADE OF FAT. Sugar is another thing that our brain loves, although in the form of glucose.

The picture you posted earlier is known as the three-layered belly pork. The downside of this pig cut is that it's not the leanest part and that's quite a lot of fat you swallowed in those 2 bowls. The plus side is that it just tastes so darn good for being so darn bad (my favourite piece of the pork).

No wonder no drop in weight. Now you have to work harder this week.
haha, that oink oink i makan 10 days ago during Ching Ming. Erm.. actually not only that oink oink, I eat a lot of rice and drink ribena whole day (for 2 days).

Nevermind la, I eat so damn a lot still no gain in weight, should feel happy already. biggrin.gif

I continue to hu ha hu ha this week. Let's see how much lemak I can hu ha out.

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post Apr 13 2009, 06:13 PM

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hi all diet people...!! i am now serious on diet and exercise..hope i will get to lose weight till the goal.. smile.gif

need to track what i have eat everyday, always forgotten to update sad.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 08:13 PM

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hi dokidoki,

errr... we are serious? >.> don't think so. we tempt each other with bygone days of delicious fatty food...

I guess the best thing is to track everyday then. smile.gif there's a members journal area you know. tongue.gif

The most we do is try to motivate each other on.

Although, having said that, anyone seen Clarkfann around? Her bday came last week and she has been pretty silent since. Hope she's ok.
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post Apr 13 2009, 09:02 PM

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Went out for a tea today, i dont know what to ordered in Oldtown Kopitiam.. everything is like my favorite but none of them are really healthy =(

drank a cup of tea and ate a slice of plain toast.
I love siu yuk also @@, but hard to get good one, i know one in Jalan Chan Sow Ling

Lol, i didn't start my personal journal yet, no guts

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 13 2009, 08:13 PM)
hi dokidoki,

errr... we are serious? >.> don't think so. we tempt each other with bygone days of delicious fatty food...

I guess the best thing is to track everyday then. smile.gif there's a members journal area you know. tongue.gif

The most we do is try to motivate each other on.

Although, having said that, anyone seen Clarkfann around? Her bday came last week and she has been pretty silent since. Hope she's ok.
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my bday is May 8th tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 09:30 PM

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charge-n-go & tengster : Ok, I made an error in the word. It's not glycogen, it's glucagon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucagon
http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathp...s/glucagon.html

It's a hormone coming from the pancreas that releases fat from the body. For it to do that, there must be a balance of insulin and glucagon for it to happen. Too much insulin (from too high blood sugar so insulin builds up to try and bring the blood sugar levels down, but it can overcompensate causing blood sugar to go down very very low) will push the levels of glucagon down. So, to maintain healthy balance levels of insulin and glucagon, one needs to have a balance of protein, carbs and fat. Too much high GI carbs will cause too much insulin in the body so may need to have some low GI carbs food in the diet.

For athletes or people who train strenously, they have to be careful of this effect of high and low blood sugar after the training. THey will need a different pre- and post-nutrition just to handle the roller coaster effect of the different blood sugar levels. Hence, that's the reason why it's ok for them to take energy drinks and higher carb foods after

http://www.oztrack.com/gi.htm

For the athletes or ppl who exercise a lot, they may need to adjust their GI intake according to their body needs. Not quite a precise science.

Still reading the book.
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post Apr 13 2009, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ Apr 13 2009, 09:33 AM)
I have a body training journal here:

My Workout Journal
Last week I have no weight lost and waist measurement lost at all biggrin.gif

Need the advice from you. Thanks!
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nice journal!!
might try to follow you...
hahahahaha
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QUOTE(syarz @ Apr 13 2009, 09:32 PM)
nice journal!!
might try to follow you...
hahahahaha
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hehe if you dont exercise like him please dont eat like him
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 13 2009, 09:37 PM)
hehe if you dont exercise like him please dont eat like him
elses  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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perharps ill make a few changes...
8.00pm to 11.00pm is my futsal training...
even better cool2.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 13 2009, 09:30 PM)
For athletes or people who train strenously, they have to be careful of this effect of high and low blood sugar after the training. THey will need a different pre- and post-nutrition just to handle the roller coaster effect of the different blood sugar levels. Hence, that's the reason why it's ok for them to take energy drinks and higher carb foods after

For the athletes or ppl who exercise a lot, they may need to adjust their GI intake according to their body needs. Not quite a precise science.
does the book define what is train strenously mean? cardio 40minutes....does it mean train strenously?


Added on April 13, 2009, 10:19 pmSky-live - you can goto U-Lik for wantonmee...got good charsiew....

Clarkfann - we can almost celebrate together....

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QUOTE(tengster @ Apr 13 2009, 10:18 PM)
does the book define what is train strenously mean? cardio 40minutes....does it mean train strenously?
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Nope, the book doesn't mention it. It does mention that it's good to have aerobic and anaerobic activity to reduce insulin resistance. Increase in insulin resistance means the possibility of diabetes. The book itself revolves a lot around insulin and diabetes as well as other chronic health problems prevalent in modern day. However, he does occasionly peppers the books with information on children and the state of their health with the diet intake these days.

Oh, one thing that the book does say is that a human being starts loosing muscle mass from 35 yo onwards. To counteract this, one is to take up strength training. Even at 80s and 90s, it's still possible to do some strength training.

Still haven't read everything. Still reading on.
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Wiki-san, wanna ask some things about diet.

What u normally "sapu" at your wholemeal bread & anything healthy to apply with it or just plain wholemeal bread with low-fat milk in the morning ? Jams ? Kaya? Peanut Butter?

For drinks , those very sweets ones , will they increase our weights also? Is it means the more sugar in it, the higher the calories intake?

How do u guys calculate the kCalories intake?

Today i ate:

6.45am:
4pieces of whole meal bread with kaya on it.
1 cup of low-fat milk.

10.45am:
2 fishballs
2 packets of guava.

1.30pm:
1/2 plate of brown rice and 1 fish curry with long beans
Including some potatoes and and...... 2 "kompiang" [ don't know how to say it out but in my community they call it that]. Inside the "kompiang" got pork meat. rclxub.gif

7pm:
1/2 plate of brown rice and 1 fish curry with long beans and 2 donuts.

8pm:
1/2 cup cappuccino which is extremely sweet. After i drank half of it, really cannot stand the sweetness and just throw it away.

Thats all for today. Seeking advice to have a better healthy diet. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

tengster: please don't nuke me. tried my best. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 13 2009, 09:30 PM)
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Hey, this info is cool WIKI-san. Terima kaseh!


QUOTE(syarz @ Apr 13 2009, 09:32 PM)
nice journal!!
might try to follow you...
hahahahaha
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no need try, just do it biggrin.gif
we motivate each other!


QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 13 2009, 09:37 PM)
hehe if you dont exercise like him please dont eat like him
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do I eat like an oink oink? biggrin.gif


QUOTE(tengster @ Apr 13 2009, 10:18 PM)
Clarkfann - we can almost celebrate together....
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Wei, when is yours?
Mine is 7th May.


Added on April 13, 2009, 11:28 pmTalking about Glucagon. It is very important in anaerobic based exercise like lifting and martial arts.

Got 3 times, I didn't take good dinner, just a piece of biscuit and a few table spoon of glucose. I nearly fainted in the 2 hour Taekwondo training. I thought it was my stamina, but after that, I discovered I didn't take enough food before training.

This is because anaerobic needs a lot of carbo to provide fast energy via fast glycolysis. The result will be lactic acid. So, after weight training, it is good to have some aerobic exercise to increase the pulveric acid via slow glycolysis.

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QUOTE(richard3200 @ Apr 13 2009, 11:11 PM)
What u normally "sapu" at your wholemeal bread & anything healthy to apply with it or just plain wholemeal bread with low-fat milk in the morning ? Jams ? Kaya? Peanut Butter?
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Nothing. I just eat it plain. Never got into the habit of putting butter or jam or kaya. TBH, I can't quite take sweet stuff. My Mum controlled my sugar intake when I was young so now as an adult, I don't take sweet stuff as much.

Hmm...but I sometimes do put a cheesespread over it, either cream cheese or cottage cheese. Then makan like that. I read the product labels for carbo, sugar, fat and calorie.

With butter hmm.... I'm not sure if you can get it but an alternative is either soy butter or olive butter. But compare the calories and fat first.

QUOTE(richard3200 @ Apr 13 2009, 11:11 PM)
For drinks , those very sweets ones , will they increase our weights also? Is it means the more sugar  in it, the higher the calories intake?
Yep and you'll need to exercise more if you want to continue to drink them. Usually, for weight loss, it's put aside for the time being.

QUOTE(richard3200 @ Apr 13 2009, 11:11 PM)
How do u guys calculate the kCalories intake?
I don't. Too much hassle. I just :'
-control food portions
-know what food is ok and not ok

Then I just go with that.

kaya : is very rich with sugar + eggs. The eggs maybe not so much of a problem if you're exercising regularly. But the sugar is bad.

fishball : either it's too much fat or too much flour (processed wheat is simple carbo). Sometimes a bit of sugar in here as well as pork fat.

guava : eating this is fine but too much and you find that you can't shit as often as before. It's something about this fruit but as long as you don't eat it for every meal or 5 days once, should be alrite.

\fish curry with long beans : curry bought from shop or eat at home? jaga the sugar in the curry sauce as well as the coconut milk. it's possible to eat curry without coconut milk and sugar but it's not easy. My granny makes it from the paste, not from the powder.

kompiang : err....processed white flour is big on carbo. potatoes too (unless it's sweet potato). hmm...kompiang is also deep fried rite?

donuts : process white flour + sugar?

sugar in coffee : errr, may want to cut down.

May take it a step at a time. It's not easy to turn a new leave and I gave myself one week of slowly moving into the new diet. You will also find that you have some trouble initially fighting off cravings because when you slowly move away from refined carbo, your body will crave for it more. Headaches, aches and pain may also appear butonce you're over this period (usually a few days to a week), it's easier.
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