Hmm....apples being simple carbs. Now that's new. It does contain sugar yes but maybe we should switch to the term Refined Carbs i.e. processed carbohydrates that make it easy to breakdown. Because essentially, that's what simple carbs really is.

When it comes to pre- and post-nutrition stuff, what I'm reading lately is telling me that bananas shouldn't be eaten on it's own for people who exercise a lot. That they need a proper supplement to replace the nutrients that they have lost or used up during the exercise. They call a banana "sugar that is dressed up!" lol!

I usually don't advise about pre- and post-nutrition stuff as it can get extremely touchy with people here. And considering that I have problems exercising regularly, they probably wouldn't want to listen to me anyways.

And yeah, I do work there. We change names now though.

Not if you don't control your eating you don't. And you won't get support either since a lot of people in the H&F forum don't believe in what you say either.

You're presumably young.

I see my arm very jinggly. Maybe should put up a video of it and let everyone scream "ewwwwwww!" LOL!

pizzaboy : Haiya you! Again, your panties are up in a rut. I said that some people said, not my opinion lah. Adoi! Although, you might want to rethink comparing athletes a bit. You guys need high carbs diet during competition time when you need a lot of energy but off-season, then diet may change, no? DOH!

Wahliaw! Yeah, looks easy.

I am planning to goto bakery goods shop and get some nuts for cooking. Getting almonds, walnuts, pecans and cashewnuts.

Hmm...no oven anymore. Going to dry fry the almonds on slow fire and see if that helps. Going to make a small batch of this in blender.

I don't think you may see 48 kg if you want a 6 pack lah. Not unless you're very very short.

I just read a comment from Jillian Michaels that says that crunchnes just don't work.

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Added on May 31, 2009, 7:21 pmNow we wait for all the ladies to panic. MUAHAHA!

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clarkfann : OK, you're going to have to take a serious step back and really look at yourself. You have lost so much weight that you're now a sweet pretty and beautiful young lady.

If you drop another 2 kg, you're going to look like a skeleton. You want that?!?

If you want your 6-pack, then you're going to see that scale move but your BF % will drop.

Also, don't forget. You have SPM to get through this year.

Take it easy, relax. And I think I would hide that scale from you for the next 2 weeks of school holidays. Take a break lah.

CF : At the same time know that we do care about your well-being and don't want to see you destroyed in your journey to be fit and healthy.

One healthy diet : dried seaweed. I took the small packet one. Low calorie and high in nutrients. Shake off any excess salt though.

g3rbera : Ok, are you snacking on anything? Chocolates, sweets, junk food. Must be something there. Come on, spill the beans!

Raikkonen : Crunches don't work well for love handles. Try burpees!

Eh, some of us actually take supper and no weight gain.

It's just that we don't take big meals lah. Mamak is big meal.

As for sugar, yeah, but it also works for hidden sugar. E.g. that chap fan that you eat that has tau-hu bak will have sugar inside it.

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Added on June 1, 2009, 11:47 pmCometo think about it, I've been taking supper for over 2-3 months now. It's usually just a piece of fruit.

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You do realised that a lot of specialists in Malaysia are advising against the taking of Herbalife because of the unknown Chinese medicinal herbs inside it that may interfere with their patients medication?

And are you sure it's fat and not just flabby muscles / sagging skin?

Plus, not everyone has the same body like you so some may find it harder than others.

The other nasty thing about Herbalife or any meal replacement program is that when you get off it (especially if you're on it for 2 meals a day), your gas strict juices will be worst. Annoying as hell.

g3rbera : What you should do is keep a food + exercise diary with your weight (I think I might have mentioned this before). I don't quite understand what you mean by putting on weight : 1 kg? 2kg? 5kg? I have a calendar that I mark down my weight very day. Once it's the next page (next month), I enter the figures into a graph just to see how fast is my weight loss/gain.

Although, what were your stats again? It's too many post to check. >.> Sorry lah.

Your diet : Read the earlier posts that is on this thread and what we talk about.

Breakfast bread : Breakthrough?

Low fat cheese : Check for carbo/sugar level as well. Must be lower than normal cheese. Also, you will probably have to do a lot of cheese comparison to find out which one is really really low-fat. Cheddar is still quite high in fat. You may have to check the labels for parmesen, ricotta, goat cheese, feta cheese. I'm not sure whether you would like it though. An egg has less fat and you can mix it with some veggies.

Fishball : White flour + sugar. I'm serious about the sugar.

Brown rice : Watch your portions. I'm limiting it to 1/4 of my plate so that's about 2 tablespoons only. But that's because my carbo tolerance level is low i.e. I eat a lot and I balloonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

Dinner : Milo is bad. Hydrogenated fat you know. It's hard to get rid off. Plus sugar. Eat a proper meal with veggie and protein (fish if necessary). I limit my Milo intake to only when I'm sick and I don't have appetite to eat anything else.

Errr....8-10 min running only? How hard do you push yourself?

I actually don't count my calories anymore which is pretty bad habit. I do occasionally check up on how much calories are per ingredient though.

I'm guessing my calorie intake is about 1600-1800 calories per day based on the fact that I eat home-cooked food, whether it's me cooking it or my Granny.

Also, bear in mind that I'm still obese so it only takes a little bit of effort for me to lose weight than you who are fit. When I get within 20kg of my target weight, things will probably start slowing down a lot.

I do have some rules that I follow though when it comes to dietary habits and I try to follow these rules when I go out. Doesn't always work like when I went on a 2week trip to UK for business + leisure. But once I came back home and back into the swing of dieting and cooking again, my weight went down. But it took a huge carbo cut just to bring it down.

How come you're asking?

I'm actually eating enough once you factor in my veggie and fruit portions. I also didn't go into the carb : protein : fat % for the simple reason that I didn't do calorie counting. When I get into a weight loss plateau, I'll do it then but not before. It can be equally stressful on me and I really don't want to overdo it too much atm. If it works for you, that's fine. It doesn't for me. I only do investigation when things aren't moving.

You also have to know that with obese people, I also cannot some of the exercises that you guys usually take for granted. So I do the simple long cardio workouts which are working atm.

Don't worry lah. I have my Granny nagging me a lot when I don't eat enough. BTW, a tablespoon is not our usual meal spoon that you see at coffee shops lah. Those are actually desert spoons. A tablespoon is bigger than that. 2 tablespoon is about 1/3 of a rice bowl from a Chinese restaurant lah. Hmm..maybe i should also say 2 heap tablespoon.

I don't cut out all complex carbo lah. I still eat it every dinner time with the beans + rice mix. Then morning occassionally muesli. And maybe once/twice a week, I will have a noodle either cook at home or eat outside.

You also have to understand that gals don't need to eat a lot either, compared to guys. If I don't eat enough, I would feel lethargic but surprisingly, I'm extremely wide awake. More alert. The only thing I have to be careful is the sugar rush when taking carbs.

You think I'm another Clarkfann is it?

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Added on June 2, 2009, 10:30 amI was digging through the old posts that you made in this thread.

You may need to upped your veggie and fruit intake. But more veggie than fruit as fruit has higher sugar content than veggie. Eat more veggies like green veggies, broccoli, cucumber, cauliflower etc. With the root vegetables (potatoe, parsnip, radish, carrot), don't take too much but some only as these contain carbo. The veggies have fibre that will make you full, they are complex carbs (provided it's not from a tin or salted) so it will keep you full for a long period of time, they are very low in calories compared to dairy products AND they help with your weightloss by providing nutrients to help.

Hmm.....go for a slow jog but push yourself each time. Or do HIIT. Just be careful not to injury yourself. Also, if you can find a small incline or hill to do your walk/run, that's good.

It may be hard to lose the 4 kg to reach your ideal weight. Although, what is your ideal weight for your height and age and gender? You have been awfully quiet about it. If you don't want to tell us, tell us what is your current BMI then.

This post has been edited by myremi: Jun 2 2009, 10:30 AM

Lesson : EAT MORE VEGGIE!!!

Actually, now that I see your diet, maybe don't skip the cheese too much but Milo is out. Swap it with cocoa + low-fat milk. Heat it in a microwave or in a pot and it'll taste nice although with milk, you have to keep constantly stirring the milk in the pot while it's heating up else it will burn at the bottom.

You may actually have to do a lot just to get down to 50-52 kg. Since you're already within the normal BMI range, it's pretty hard to go onto the lower end of the scale. Maybe you may want to change your goal a bit to toning up? That will help to get rid of flabbiness around your stomach and you don't worry about your weight so much. And who knows? Your weight may drop further.

And nothing wrong being top heavy. If you got it, flaunt it! Haha!

Hmm...for people within the normal range, you have to talk to one of the more fitter types. Like pizzaboy or Syd G.

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Well, you can either regret about that weight or you can push on and see what can change.

Usually it's the diet or the body is changing (measure yourself to find out).

For some folks, it's easy to lose weight and others not so. Too many factors to come to an answer. I was on a plateau for 1 month after killing off 10 kg. Now, scale is moving again because of my carb intake is lower, I eat more at home and not outside for functions, and I did more exercise.

And like I said earlier, you may have to check with someone else about the jogging + walking. It's not enough to tone up the stomach. You may need additional all-body-type of cardio which usually is the burpee.

Well, good for you then.

At least u're back to eating now.

g3rbera : ooppps, calm down.

Maybe I better sum up a bit of what you went through and let Syd G and kurtkob78 know the bigger picture. It looks like they are giving you advice based on your last posting and not the posting 3 weeks ago.

If something is wrong with the summary, just correct it.

Syd G and kurtkob78 :

A summary of g3rbera's activities :

-her diet, you're seen it. Lack of veggie and protein.
-she started 3 weeks ago with 40 min daily jog + run but she can only jog steadily for 8-10 min before she stops to walk.
-her BMI is in the middle of the normal range but she wants to go to the lower end of the scale. I think it was BMI 20 but she wants to drop from 57kg to 50-52 kg. Height is 158 cm.