charge-n-go : Actually, perhaps we may have to change the concept of cardio a bit.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/997723

Check out the links on this forum. What they concluded is that it's not that the fat is burnt during the anaerobic phase but during the recovery period after the anaerobic phase.

In one of the articles, I think it's mentioned 1 min but it was difficult to wallow through it to find out where. Too much emotion and drama in the article but that's most of the way the Americans like to write English. I need to rewrite somewhere without all the dramatical "I-told-you-so" phrases.

When I see ATP and all, my head pening a bit. You guys are pushing me to understand cardio faster than my mind can process it lah.

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Added on April 15, 2009, 1:30 pmShe's rite about that.

charge-n-go : perhaps should talk more to Syd G. She may understand better than us about cardio.

This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 15 2009, 01:30 PM

I'm very rusty and when you read emotionally charged articles from fitness experts, it drains a lot of brainpower trying to rethink what they wrote so that it's simpler to understand.

charge-n-go : u are very complicated. When I suggested Syd G, I was thinking that she probably had simpler indicators for cardio.

Hmm...when you threw in the martial weights training recruitment, that threw out the discussion off a little bit.

Maybe we should define the boundaries. What do you want?
-Weight Loss?
-Martial Arts?
-If both, what are the conditions?

Because then the cardio discussion will change based on what your goals are.

You're making me think too much about Energy Balances and bringing in Mass Transfer and Heat Transfer now. It's harder to apply those rules to a human body, YOU KNOW? And now having to dig up medical terms too.

Bit busy the past few nights so haven't had time to chew on all of this. My only concept atm is that the body needs energy to move (exercise or normal movement) and that it's taking it from blood sugar. That blood sugar is in various forms though, depending on what the body is doing and what nutrients/fuel is available. Losing weight is the side-effect of this energy consumption. Building/losing muscles is a side-effect of this energy consumption. Building stamina is something I haven't quite figure out yet because haven't seen how it fits into the entire thing. Just need to min-max this energy consumption to get to what we want. Min-max : changing the body/environment to get maximum benefits/goal achievement with minimum losses/goals incomplete.

The bit that is interesting is how it all fits together. And there's something about blood sugar that plays a major role in all chronic diseases that is also interesting.

So, 2 key lessons about cardio :

Lesson 1

Include some anaerobic exercise in between aerobic for fat loss. Evidence : HIIT. It's the transition from one cardio type to another that make the body "shake up" and lose fat. The after-effect is important, not the anaerobic exercise by itself and also not the aerobic exercise by itself but the effect of having both together.

Lesson 2

Total body workout is better rather than just focus on certain body parts.

That correct then? For good cardio workout?

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Added on April 15, 2009, 3:47 pmThat show will make them do a HIIT that is intense to them but not intense to someone fit like the others here.

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Added on April 15, 2009, 3:50 pmConfession : Last nite supper was a small plate of bee hoon and a small tuna-mayo sandwich.

DIE TODAY.

Friday nite : Welcome nite function
Sat nite : Gala nite function

DOUBLE DIE.

This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 15 2009, 03:50 PM

Yep. Problem atm is that still breathless from the coughing. Ever had a cough that makes you sweat after 3 coughs?

Distracted by WoW new patch.

It's not as simple as that. If I ate that much, I'll get fat again.

Provided the meals are planned well. If it's not planned well, eating more frequently may cause more harm than good.

Hee heee.... you are inspired this morning

Hmm....ok sounds good. Can I take a range? >.> 3-4 kg for me.

Errr...question : how to avoid weighing myself when BF counter is using it? >.>

Also, I might be reporting late on the last week : travelling during that period.

Methinks Syd G looking for partners to help lah. Nothing wrong.

Actually Syd, maybe I upped my goal to 5 kg. 3-4 kg is my current target and seems easy to achieve lah.

Doctors who don't understand physical fitness well and they usually start ppl off with cardio as it's easy for ppl to go for a walk and then move on to other fitness regime later on.

Hey Syd G, how about making a separate post for that 1 month commitment. Fatties Unite! Hahah! Easier than wallowing through all the pages here.

tengster : cannot put the weight target lower. else it's considered unhealthy weight loss. but maybe can change BF% but I dunno how to set the goal in comparison to the weight loss. healthy weight loss is 0.5 kg- 1 kg per week. I'm just adding one more kg on top of the 4 kg per month which is my rate atm.

if u can help explain how to set BF% goals, that'll be great since sky.live also wanna do it.

my 5 kg not easy lah. end of the 30 days, i'm in UK lah and eating out out out. need to jagaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

btw, i'm in kl during the labour day weekend. wanna meet up guys? for morale boosting over something healthy....

Yeah, UK is challenging but see how lah. Probably have to do a lot of walking.

Speaking of which, need to get a new pair of shoes while in KL that week. To use during the trip for a lot of walking.

Hmm....ok dokie.

So, 30 days start tomorrow?

I propose we move the Fatso Challenge to another separate thread. We might confuse ppl because this is a "Ask about Weight Losses" thread.

We may get more ppl in. LOL!

1) Use measurements + BF. Come on lah.....What is 30 days lah?
7) Ok lah. We excuse u since you very zen martial artist lah.

Isn't bedroom olympics HIIT?

Eh, every week you wanna correct for what? No need sso precise one.