I tend to believe in the mirror rather than the scale. I think it's also pointless to talk to zombie-wannabe on weight management. It will go gila2.

love pedro's reply.



i've seen people that look hot even with 30% body fat.

you're 21.5% and that's really good already!

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Added on May 15, 2009, 12:31 amyou're slim already - it's very nice now.

i've seen skinny people and you know what? they can't wear so many clothings, they look like lampshades!

This post has been edited by goldfries: May 15 2009, 12:31 AM

@Clark
I show your picture to my sister, she said your body shape is very much adorable..

are we suppose to have meals before or after workout?
as i know, there are two options,

a) exercising with an empty stomach (before breakfast) burns excess fat in your body.

b) exercising after breakfast/meal would provide more energy to burn calories.

I usually go for a.. but i heard that it's not good because i would have a heavy breakfast after that, and my workout would not be so effective?

sasha_9090,
how intensive are ur exercises?

hi all.
just started working out after years of accumulating fat
aim to lose at least 20 kg.

i brisk walk to office and back = total about 20 mins, 5 times a week.
so far hit the gym = 5 times only.
been cutting back carbo.

the bad news.....i don't see any difference in my weight

in gym, i normally start with 15 mins walk on treadmill, 30 mins on either elliptical machine or bike.
is that enough?

i want to lift weight but i don't know how to begin.

please help

you won't see the difference so soon la.

in fact if you do weights, then you might notice a little bit of gain at the start.

you shouldn't be worried about the weight part, some people have ideal weight but if you consider their lean mass vs fat, it's horrible!

being slim / skinny doesn't mean healthy, some people slim but mostly fats and weak muscles.

I saw a running lady..thin as hell...macam running skeleton...oh My god....that was for last Sunday's Larian Bomba

Syd, did u see one? HAHa

hmm.. i jog on the treadmill for 30mins, cycle 20mins, sometimes do weights for 10mins..

15% BF will make u look hawt. You really have 'something' on ur belly. Actually your leg oso, looks quite... lembik. You still have big headroom for improvement.

cheer for u, 'lose oil lose oil'!

This post has been edited by charge-n-go: May 15 2009, 07:12 PM

Woman don't have to go to 15% bodyfat to look good. Even man is hard to reach 15% bodyfat. 21% bodyfat is already average for a woman. 21-25% bodyfat is equal to 15-19% bodyfat for man. All man knows it's hard to get to 15% bodyfat

This post has been edited by kurtkob78: May 15 2009, 07:26 PM

If we have the heart to go 15%, why not? Why must stay at 21%?

got another question, how to reduce bodyfat at the sametime maintain the muscle mass? My bodyfat is found to be around 20%, I dunno it is accurate or not but the errors won't go that much anyway. My bodytype is ectomorph, aka "small bones" gene, however I grow quite a lot in recent years. I do a lot of sit-up crunches as heavy as 40lbs on the situp crunch bench, the abs is quite tough now, but the muscle definitions are covered by layers of fat

the problem now is, I want the bodyfat to reduce to at least 17%, but not at the cost of muscle mass, which is the thing I afraid if I live a calorie deficit diet.

supplementary info:

height: 179cm
weight: 70.5kg
BMI: 22
Basal Metabolic rate: 1620 kcal
Fat mass: 14.5kg
Fat FreeMass: 56 kg
Total Body Water: 35.7kg



This post has been edited by dattebayo: May 16 2009, 10:58 AM

i am slim? but 21.5% body fat is high,wasnt it?
yea,but...i am too fleshy,juz trying so hard to be THIN.

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Added on May 16, 2009, 4:31 pmyes,thats "FATS" whats lembik?
yea,i agree with u
but really...my fats is stubbOrn as hell..even i took supplement to increase my stamina and metabolism

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Added on May 16, 2009, 4:33 pmwhat does she mean?adorable? = chubby?

This post has been edited by ClarkFann: May 16 2009, 04:33 PM

21% is pretty normal for a girl, while quite flabby for guy

i know,its normal for a girl,but i tryna to be unnormal,below 21% would look nicer

clarkfann : heh! I see you're still worried about your weight and looks.

i think people who was fat then lose weight will keep concern about weight eventho they r not fat anymore. i do feel it too sometimes but thank god i hv frens around me that keep me think straight. but right now i still have some weight to shed

i don't know about other people but clarkfann really looks thin to me now...no need to lose more weight already. Girls who are too thin = turn off

yep!yep!
thin guys also turn me off
anyone agree?