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Vv.SoViEt.vV
post Jul 21 2009, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Jul 21 2009, 10:52 PM)
Its refering to Madza 3 la cos we're in Mazda3 thread la doh.gif  doh.gif
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okok.. but no one will use M3 for Mazda 3 lahhhhh. laugh.gif
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post Jul 22 2009, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(shakiraa @ Jul 21 2009, 10:33 PM)
no offence, i tested all 3 cars before, Mazda 3 is really "underpower" if compare to FD2 or Lancer 2.0.

anyway, it's a good car for those that dont mind about power/pick up. it will loose to FD2 and Lancer for sure, even the 308 THP will beat it flat.
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If i were to choose these 3 cars, it will definitely be the Mazda 3. The built and ride quality is definitely the best. I believe most of us buy a car for everyday use and not to race and see who can outrun who....for me, Mazda 3 is the closest to continental ride among the 3.
Civic really has the elegant look and spacious but the ride quality is really not as good as Mazda 3..coupled with the countless complaint about its CKD Melaka quality....I will have no problem even if its a CBU Thailand.

Lancer looks sporty and nice to me but is the most uncomfortable car in its class...and the cabin noise is really really unbearable. I almost thought i was driving a motor boat!! Is not surprising when I knock on the door, it sounds so thin and soft...the insulation is so so bad.

There is always a compromise.....when you want good handling car, you sacrifice on comfort...when you want good acceleration, you compromise on fuel consumption..Car companies can tune up or tune down their car but they will have to weight on the fuel consumption.....Especially Mazda where they have big market concentration in Europe and as we all know Europe have the strictest environmental rules. Cars with lower emission will enjoy higher rebate in taxes....Mazda cars in Malaysia and Europe actually came from the same factory in Japan.
Of course over here you can always tuned up your car yourself if you want but you can't upgrade on your car material quality.

This post has been edited by iceman08: Jul 22 2009, 10:17 AM
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post Jul 22 2009, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Vv.SoViEt.vV @ Jul 21 2009, 11:21 PM)
okok.. but no one will use M3 for Mazda 3 lahhhhh.  laugh.gif
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I refer Mazda 3 to M3
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post Jul 23 2009, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jul 22 2009, 10:06 AM)
If i were to choose these 3 cars, it will definitely be the Mazda 3. The built and ride quality is definitely the best. I believe most of us buy a car for everyday use and not to race and see who can outrun who....for me, Mazda 3 is the closest to continental ride among the 3.
Civic really has the elegant look and spacious but the ride quality is really not as good as Mazda 3..coupled with the countless complaint about its CKD Melaka quality....I will have no problem even if its a CBU Thailand.

Lancer looks sporty and nice to me but is the most uncomfortable car in its class...and the cabin noise is really really unbearable. I almost thought i was driving a motor boat!! Is not surprising when I knock on the door, it sounds so thin and soft...the insulation is so so bad. 

There is always a compromise.....when you want good handling car, you sacrifice on comfort...when you want good acceleration, you compromise on fuel consumption..Car companies can tune up or tune down their car but they will have to weight on the fuel consumption.....Especially Mazda where they have big market concentration in Europe and as we all know Europe have the strictest environmental rules. Cars with lower emission will enjoy higher rebate in taxes....Mazda cars in Malaysia and Europe actually came from the same factory in Japan.
Of course over here you can always tuned up your car yourself if you want but you can't upgrade on your car material quality.
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Couldn't agree more with Iceman... rclxms.gif

I was in a dilemma choosing the big 2 --> CKD Civic 2.0 or CBU Lancer GT? (2010 Mazda3 was not launched that time - Around March this year)

Then I chose Civic rather than Lancer because the Lancer's interior is a lil' shabby even though it's a CBU from Japan.. (no offense to Lancer owners, but it's really a good buy..)

Due to the Civic 2.0 late delivery, I was quite pissed by Honda Malaysia and canceled the booking and tried to look for other alternatives. The day I decided to cancel the booking from Honda, the next day was the Mazda 3 launch event in Berjaya Time Square. Maybe it's meant to be.. LOL tongue.gif

Then I went to test drive the Mazda 3 2.0 and saw the real car.. Man.. It really looks better than the pictures that I've got from the net... (usually it's the other way round).. blink.gif After the test drive session... didn't think twice.. booked straight away.. really happy with the build quality, gadgets, the BI-Xenon headlights, LED tail lights and etc etc... Since the paper stated the BHP is slightly lesser than Civic and Lancer, but I couldn't tell the difference of the engine performance though.. but heck.. like Iceman said.. the car it's not meant for racing.. and I say, it's the comfort and the good feel of being inside of the car is the most important. Who will be in the car more? The owner right? Not the outside people that judge the car...

But still have to wait until next month to confirm the exact delivery date like some of you here that booked the car few days after launched... but it's worth the wait... Who can beat me? Waiting for a car to deliver from March... share your pain with me if you are worst than me... hahaha

This post has been edited by cheeleong: Jul 23 2009, 10:05 AM
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post Jul 23 2009, 10:54 AM

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i've been wait 1year for car delivery b4...
year 2001 when proton waja launch...lol
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post Jul 23 2009, 11:06 AM

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Actually the power differences between them are really minute and is hard to actually feel it...If you want to feel the power, is the torque and not hp that matter the most...and since max hp are usually measured at more than 6000rpm, let me ask everyone here...how often we hit 6000rpm?? Unless you are racing with someone....of course. Some never even rev past 5000rpm for their entire car life...


Added on July 23, 2009, 11:09 am
QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jul 23 2009, 10:54 AM)
i've been wait 1year for car delivery b4...
year 2001 when proton waja launch...lol
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1 year?? I thought those days (1990's) with the Proton Saga/Wira where we need to wait for 6 months and get scolded by the salesman are over..never thought Waja needs 1 year.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Jul 23 2009, 12:50 PM

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i saw somewhere that it stated mazda 3 drag coefficient lowest in it's class. become the most aerodynamic in it's class...which means....could be faster..

well anyone provide lancer vs civic vs mazda 3 for a drag race?

hehe

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post Jul 23 2009, 01:59 PM

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Well... The sales man must be cursing in his heart..

I DID floor the accelerator and the RPM reaches 7k RPM for the Mazda 3 2.0.. In fact, you can really blow the engine if you keep over revving it because the gear won't change if you set it to "Manual"...

The torque was there... I always felt the push and the car was not loaded of course.. Just me and the sales man...

Torque :
Mazda3 2.0 --> 182 Nm / 4500 RPM
Civic 2.0 --> 188 Nm / 4500 RPM
Lancer GT --> 199 Nm / 4250 RPM

Kerb Weight :
Mazda3 2.0 --> 1300kg
Civic 2.0 --> 1315kg
Lancer GT --> 1385kg

As you can see from the specifications listed above taken from each respective manufacturer's websites... I reckon 3 of them are very close in a quarter mile drag race.. but so far nobody races 3 of them together.. as for civic vs lancer video in youtube.. it's hard to judge though... sometimes civic wins, sometimes lancer wins.. driver's problem? kekeke...

Mazda3 with the lowest weight with lowest torque and Lancer GT the heaviest with highest torque.. Fair and Square...
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QUOTE(kokben @ Jul 23 2009, 12:50 PM)
i saw somewhere that it stated mazda 3 drag coefficient lowest in it's class. become the most aerodynamic in it's class...which means....could be faster..

well anyone provide lancer vs civic vs mazda 3 for a drag race?

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All new Mazda seems to come out with very good low coefficient...Mazda 6 has it at 0.27 even lower than a Lexus IS at 0.28...Camry 0.29, Accord 0.31......1st gen Mazda 3 seems to have an upper hand against new Civic on a drag race..yet to see the new 3.


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QUOTE(cheeleong @ Jul 23 2009, 01:59 PM)
The torque was there... I always felt the push and the car was not loaded of course.. Just me and the sales man...

Torque :
Mazda3 2.0 --> 182 Nm / 4500 RPM
Civic 2.0 --> 188 Nm / 4500 RPM
Lancer GT --> 199 Nm / 4250 RPM

Kerb Weight :
Mazda3 2.0 --> 1300kg
Civic 2.0 --> 1315kg
Lancer GT --> 1385kg

As you can see from the specifications listed above taken from each respective manufacturer's websites... I reckon 3 of them are very close in a quarter mile drag race.. but so far nobody races 3 of them together.. as for civic vs lancer video in youtube.. it's hard to judge though... sometimes civic wins, sometimes lancer wins.. driver's problem? kekeke...

Mazda3 with the lowest weight with lowest torque and Lancer GT the heaviest with highest torque.. Fair and Square...
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Actually Mazda 3 max torque at 4000rpm not 4500rpm...another practical and ideal everyday driving....


Added on July 23, 2009, 2:59 pm
QUOTE(cheeleong @ Jul 23 2009, 01:59 PM)
Well... The sales man must be cursing in his heart..

I DID floor the accelerator and the RPM reaches 7k RPM for the Mazda 3 2.0.. In fact, you can really blow the engine if you keep over revving it because the gear won't change if you set it to "Manual"...


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I don't think he will be unhappy, not his car anyway....but one lesson to learn here, never buy a demo car... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif I personally saw someone testing a Lancer and I can hear both the engine and tires were screaming..

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QUOTE(iceman08 @ July 23, 2009, 2:53 pm)
Actually Mazda 3 max torque at 4000rpm not 4500rpm...another practical and ideal everyday driving....
Well according to mazda3.com.sg it stated 4500rpm...
Malaysian site stated 4000rpm... weird...

QUOTE(iceman08 @ July 23, 2009, 2:59 pm)
I don't think he will be unhappy, not his car anyway....but one lesson to learn here, never buy a demo car... shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif I personally saw someone testing a Lancer and I can hear both the engine and tires were screaming..
Haha... I did encounter some sales man mentioned to me like this "The bugger test the car like mad but in the end no booking.." bla bla bla and the story continues.

Nowadays people are desperate in "cheaper" car... they'll grab whatever they can when it comes cheap... My sales man told me that their Mazda6 test car sold within days!!

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successfully buy my car num. plate WSV xyyy for rm210 onli .... it takes me less then 20mins to get it

luckily din get con by mazda SA .... however any1 can confirm this?i read jpj website tht the num can b kept max 3 mths b4 register ... but some1 in this forum said 1 mth??? if 1 mth i die lo,mazda oso havent get me my car shocking.gif
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post Jul 23 2009, 09:59 PM

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Its 3 mths, no worry. Btw what no.?
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post Jul 24 2009, 11:15 AM

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Yup it's 3 months. Not to worry. When did your agent mention your car arrival date?
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my car shud be arriving in aug ... she said most probably mid to end of aug cry.gif

another 1 month to wait
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QUOTE(santaclaus @ Jul 23 2009, 08:52 PM)
successfully buy my car num. plate WSV xyyy for rm210 onli .... it takes me less then 20mins to get it

luckily din get con by mazda SA .... however any1 can confirm this?i read jpj website tht the num can b kept max 3 mths b4 register ... but some1 in this forum said 1 mth??? if 1 mth i die lo,mazda oso havent get me my car shocking.gif
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so cheap? i tot it should be RM310 ?
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QUOTE(santaclaus @ Jul 25 2009, 12:24 PM)
my car shud be arriving in aug ... she said most probably mid to end of aug  cry.gif

another 1 month to wait
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yours is also 1.6?? do u upgrade ur seat to leather?
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post Jul 26 2009, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Jul 25 2009, 12:45 PM)
so cheap? i tot it should be RM310 ?
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i think 210 is u buy urself..

310 probably 100 of it is runner fee
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Me too waiting for the car. SA said the same thing probably will be arriving in mid-end aug.

Yes. RM210 is buying urself. another 100 ringgit is for the runner fees.
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guys...what's the interest rate now..still 3.25 for 5 years and 3.4 for 7 & 9 years?
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3.25 for below 5 years and 3.5 for above.
so sick with this interest...

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