They didnt transform all machines into decepticons le. They become wild robots that doest side Autobots nor Decepticons.

This post has been edited by Vinci777: Jun 29 2009, 05:54 PM

He said that from TF1 movie... its understood many of the world's technology were reverse engineered from NBE1-1 aka Megatron. THis means most electrical and electronics appliances big or small.. will have some NBE-1 "signature" or characteristic:- which is ... violent. So when allspark "activates" them into bots... the very first characteristic they show would be... megatronic aka .... kill kill kill!

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Added on June 29, 2009, 5:55 pmNo.. that was my opinion. others may have more logical opinions. I think megatron's manisfestation of most electronic or electrical tools we use today wont be that "deep".

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Jun 29 2009, 05:56 PM

i know not all whatever... just like to put all there... coz the msg is from optimus when he first meet sam on earth ....

Ya. I have the same opinion as urs. So the wild robots i mean will just kill all on sight like u mentioned due to the NBE-1 source/parts/dna.

I did watch G1 last time,but i barely remember them.

I think when megatron or prime got hold of the all spark, they will able to use the power to rebuild their civilization. Since the robots from all spark are wild, Prime or Megatron will have to train them to side either one. If it falls into Megatron, it will definitely be a decepticon.

Its only my POV dou.

but G1 I never watch all of them ..just few episode only...i think showing TV1 or TV2 when i was in kindergarten kua~~

Well talking about being a 'bot or 'con. The movie potrays decepticons face as insect-like (especially their mouth), and autobots, much less so. I wonder if a con defect and becomes the autobot, will he will becomes "more handsome" over time? Wonder how many years it take.

Maybe as soon as the autobot insignia is official wired/welded onto the ex-con (pun intended).... a certain "restructuring" happens to the overall face of that bot , a few sparks here and there... finally he looks better now .

"Welcome to the autobots!"

"Thank you optimus, can you borrow me a mirror? "

Hawt is Hawt. The pXXsycon is also HAWT

Moral of the story: Treat your home appliances with luv.

no i dont remember Optimus saying that to sam its actually agent simmons who told em about the Megatron imprint being in all of earth's technology. Allspark can be used to empower both sides or even the third race,predacons. Its a cube of knowledge, a source of raw power its short circuited Megatron and we have seen that in small amounts it can re activate sparks in dead or motionless bots.

I also want to state that the reason why Optimus cannot be saved with the allspark shard is because his spark is different as he is from the primus lineage,and his powers are"yeap you guessed it, its leadership" so tahts why only the matrix of leadership can restore his spark.

planning to watch 1 more time this friday, but looks like the cinema almost full....

personally,i wouldnt replace him with anyone else.
i just wish he made the movies more about the transformers than the witwickys

ofcourse the budget would sky rocket,as there would be much more CGI in place of humans,but since it's the subject matter anyway,the budget's expected to explode


maybe that's why ratchet wanted to ciao from earth XD

everyone complained?
i thought everyone was happy about it

until the character designs (megatron in particular) came out,and in came the rabid fanboys

(speaking of megatron,didnt know(at the time) that Bay forced a slight redesign to Mega's face after the furious fanboy response )

when was that mentioned in the first movie?
or was it mentioned in the comic adaptation/novel?
or are you giving your opinion on the matter?

makes sense,though.

heh..agreed.
didnt feel a thing when he got stabbed.

more like "that's it?...ok" kind of feeling

some things we just cant explain:
every transformer,be it autobot or decepticon will have a logo on their body.

and the logo isnt a small tattoo,it's a huge insignia.

anyone can see the logo,yet for some reason no one seems to know where the decepticons are.

lol..some things you just have to let go

they implanted a mutating virus when they hacked the US military network.
if they could do that,then they already knew the weaknesses of the system.
the only way you can implant a virus into a system is if you know the holes and weaknesses of said system.
there's no way you can implement a virus of any kind if you cant find loopholes in the system you target.

whatever the case,this whole "the transformers have already been here before" doesnt work out right.
it pretty much just destroys the first movie's story. (which in all honesty,wasnt that solid to begin with)

eh?
he wasnt sent there BY the fallen?
i was under the impression that he switched while he was on earth(or something like that)

but the fact that there were transformers on earth already destroys the need for the first movie.lol
(by that i mean they didnt need sam at all,since the first few transformers who were already on earth should already have found out the location of the cube)

with no special abilities,blackout:
has to physically hack the network

with networking being his specialty,soundwave:
has to physically hack the network

does that sound familiar to anyone?

oh shytz , the more I read , the more dissappointed I am .

I havent read the comic b4 , thus dun have whatever prior knowledge about this movie .

The more I read , it gets more confusing..... hahaha

btw guys , U all can spot some details huh , I was half figuring and half watching during the entire movie until I cant focus . LOL .

Yeah... my company's IT Department.

This is mentioned when agent seymour was explaining to the secdef,epps,lennox,mikaela,and also sam along with others in front of Megatron icy self.

In the novel, The Veiled Threat,its been said that they can also mask their insignia,that what they did when the autobots went to puerto rico for a mission.

What i meant by the comment quoted by you is that, if the decepticons were here since lets say the 1800 for example,lets say all modern tech and secret military tech started from that period and the decepticons were keeping track of all of it then it means theres no need for the decepticon to hack the military in the first movie.

IMHO,the transformers being here makes sense if their presence here is meant to curb decepticons looking for the harvester machine. Like guardians or maybe they came to visit just to keep an eye on this civilization just like the movie The Earth Stood Still,where the aliens stayed and kept contact with their planet.

He did say,he was on the mission to stop the fallen if im not mistaken, watched it just now again. I'm beginning to think my above theory is more plausible or maybe sector 7 info wasnt on the security mainframe for quite some time until the first movie,they did keep Megatron and the cube in a safe place for 75 years even the Pentagon except for the president and a few others knew of the sector's existence,sort of like MIB.

This post has been edited by nimrod323: Jun 29 2009, 07:32 PM

yep... budget would sky rocket. thats the limitation he had before..
but now both making mega bucks.. i think every person that watched tf1 n 2 deserves to see a movie with the robots taking center stage.. even if it costs $400 million. heck the movie will still probly be profitable but less profit margin. if its damn good, it might make more than the previous even.
they should just go all out now theyve got the extra cash

hmm if Paramount allows it that is haha,the no 1 rule of business is to minimize cost and maximize profits = huge profit margin. Again movies are a gamble,even the biggest budgeted movies fall, we cannot simply assume the third installment with a bigger budget would garner the profit that the studios aspire to achieve, they wouldnt wanna just resort for less profit margin,but hey i'd still watch it regardless.

so much of that Bay's promising. now look what he just done.
never trust these words= "i promised you this fanboys", or might else the film would be suck as hell. look what most director have done to the film like AVP, Transformers, Terminator and a whole lot film because of that word.

watch it once only. pening kepala tengok banyak aksi transformers nih.

it seems everyone like T2:ROTF including me. but when i checked imdb.com, they only give it average/poor rating mat saleh really have different taste huh.
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ps: erm, did the twins robot die?

This post has been edited by ck_blink: Jun 29 2009, 09:14 PM

Cause it's a mediocre movie.Im not Mat Salleh.

No one knows what happen to the twins,that shows how good is the movie.