Bro, there is no plot in ROTF. So don't bother asking

If you keep asking questions about the plot holes or inconsistencies, you'll just mess up your own brain Just accept that TF2 isn't up to everyone's expectations and have very low expectations for TF3. Or pray Michael Bay isn't in charge of TF3.

Thank you Michael Bay, you have destroyed the Transformers franchise Even the kiddies Transformers:Animated followed the original TF spirit, but you decided instead to put Sam Witwicky and big explosions above everything else.

autobots is powered by energon...at least the cartoon one does...n matrix is somewhat a living prophecies like Oracle in The Matrix...understand/connect-able only by the leader -- optimus prime...

but the movie seems to imply that energon=matrix=all spark??? yeah...bad writing...too many plot holes...

God sake this is not cartoon or animation. They film this movie for worldwide not only for the cartoon fans. So dont except the same storyline as cartoon. Take it as a new dimension or story. If still cant except it and miss the old times transformer, go back to ur store and look for the tapes.

Normal ppl will like the movie. Cartoon fans will have higher expectations because they expect a freaking million dollar investment to a 2 hour movie to give the same storyline like months of 45mins cartoon. I dont even pay high expectations on the likes of dinobots or unicorn etc. I dont think this is gonna happen. The movie has always been related to humans which is why i don't forsee dinobots or unicorn but instead it might be a Reventon decepticons in the future.

MB sux but u still watch TF2 dont u? No matter ur comments is bad or good, u ard put ur money into them. $ is all they want. I bet u're gonna spent it again on TF3 just to see whether it meet ur expectations do u?

This post has been edited by Vinci777: Jun 29 2009, 11:24 AM

let me guess what is transformer 3 story plot:

well since they got allspark which fall to earth million years ago, primes and matrix fall to earth at billion years ago, i guess they got some others ancient transformer which also fall down to earth xxx years ago.

at that time what can they transform? obviously is dinosaur!

lady and gentleman, pls sit back and watch our famous transformer dinobots!

No no... in TF1... a robot transformed from a handphone in sector 7 gone berserk , but its not a decepticons OR autobot. It's merely a newborn robot which behave and attack wildly (survival instincts, perhaps?) . Same goes for the mountain dew vending machine bot.

Same goes for the electrical appliance-bots. It'll attack anyone and anything in its sight,regardless of their faction/robots or humans.

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Added on June 29, 2009, 11:47 amNope. they're NOT equal to each other. Just like humans, robots also need MORE than one element to survive, not just energon (which provides energy, perhaps?).


energon = energy (fried chicken,rice,vege)
matrix/allspark = physical "form" of soul? Maybe human soul is invisible... but robot "soul" can be seen just like those CGI effects in TF2 ?




This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Jun 29 2009, 11:47 AM

Xbox 360 also.... im looking forward to see transformed PS3 but Bay let me down this time...

PS3 (autobots) vs Xbox 360 (decepticons)

This post has been edited by 20thCentury: Jun 29 2009, 11:48 AM

Yes. I hope the "past" can be expanded to fit in the dinobots.

Maybe in 17000bc or much earlier.... some protoforms landed on earth,scanned a few dinos, and roam around bullying the other dinos... When comet hits d earth and killed the rest of the original organic dinos, they also go down with it.. but of course with their non-organic shell/body.. they doesn't "disintegrate" so easily, simply might be buried somewhere underground, deactivated.


And TF3 might start the story of the "uncovering" of a shocking fossils of the dinobots? woohooo..

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Jun 29 2009, 11:53 AM

The dinobones in the muzium perhaps? Since the've shown the muzium like the ones in Night in the muzium, they might have dinos but its very unlikely unless there is fossils because they do revealed that transformers ard exist million years ago. However if they do, they wont appear long. They would just get whack as usual by Optimus.

So, dont expect too much ler. It will only gives u dissapointment

I thought Sam Will Become Rodimus Prime when He Find The Matrix......

The Twin is A Real Pain......Make The Autobots Unstylish....

Of course I still pay to watch it

The problem is not the storyline. I don't expect to have Unicron storyline or Return of Optimus story line. Just something that makes sense and flows nicely. ROTF doesn't. Even later animations like Robots in Disguise, Armada, Animated all have crappy stories, but they keep the spirit of the original to some extent.

The first movie was ok. If you notice it still deviated from the cartoon, but it was still good enough in terms of plot/action/flow to make it great. But the second movie fails in that they try to amp up the action but sacrifice any semblance of story.

Overall I did enjoy ROTF, but it left me feeling it could've been much more than that. I had no fault with the action CGs, they are very nice. But the whole thing just feels disjointed. You can clearly see the poor directing when a transformer is there in one scene and in the next, he disappears. There is no flow.

But hey, just as you said I'll still pay for TF3 no matter what. If only to see how much more they mess up the franchise

The only thing that I've watched in the recent years that kept the spirit of the original is Macross Frontier... now THAT's a tribute.

Having said that... being a transformerbiatch... still going to watch TF3 regardless.

hmmm ... lol..... got a question for this movie...
when the sun harvesters destroyed by optimus, then the matrix also gone...?? if think logically yes.... but now seems like the allpark and matrix destroy then no more chance to bring back the autobots and decepticon back to life again..?? there is two allspark fragments in this TF2 ... one being use to revive megatron and the other one use to activate jetfire..... so now totally gone after done that..?? where is it ?? so weird and not like the first one coz optimus picked up the left over fragment from megatron chest and this TF2 like total lost the spark and matrix....... lol

If they can find an all spark fragment in sam's hoodie, I'm sure they're going to find another fragment of matrix/all spark whatever elsewhere.

But come to think of it, Optimus didn't come out totally unscathe after battling the Fallen,Megatron and Starscream. One of the Jetfire engines was missing when he ejected the Jetfire parts off.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Jun 29 2009, 01:20 PM

icic yeah loh...lol ..... but i hope my comments is rite and im wondering what r the going to do in TF3...

anyway ...whatever it is .... i hope they dont really make the same mistake as TF2 in the coming TF3... but about the TF1, u can see mistake as well if u watch again and again..lol

and they should put more budget for this TF2, not only 200 million ....probably 250 million or 300 million or more sth like that because this probably would make the movie more awesome rather than those cracking joke coz the jokes parts its like over do it/overloaded/to much....lol

This post has been edited by madguy88: Jun 29 2009, 01:31 PM

the movie's good for me, but there's alot of plot holes. other than that, it was all good =D

LaBoof confirms next movie will have more robots and more characterisation for these robots, brace yourself for the.... EMOTICONS!!!

TF3 would most likely have Grimlock and Unicron inside based on scriptwriter hints.

But no Michael Bay please. I'd take James Cameron over that fart who mixes explosions with toilet jokes anytime.

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Jun 29 2009, 02:47 PM

I don't think Hasbro had much say in this movie... and actually, I think they should have. Maybe then there'd be no Wheelie or Pretender robo-chick, who were not only lame but won't make good toys.

No they don't have much say and I didn't meant that too! I'm saying the designs of the robots are theirs, certainly not the filming crew.

you're damn rite my bro! MB doenst know shit about cinematography, plot / flow. One minute you have one scene building up momentum for a climax with background music and all, then the next second, the scene switches to stupid romance/whatever puny humans are doing in the movie... damnit MB u need to go back to film school ffs.


We need more ROBOT screentime in the movie, not puny humans!!!

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Added on June 29, 2009, 3:24 pmI LOL at that!

yea i thought he would let go of the satellite and come down to earth.

This post has been edited by xavier7: Jun 29 2009, 03:24 PM