Yes, I realised that now and have apologized. Please see the post above yours.

This post has been edited by The Hardest Thing In The World: Jul 6 2009, 11:48 AM

Exactly. Optimus has to be killed to get rid of him so more screen time can be give to LaBoof, just to list one example. Don't talk to me about his death being a necessity to tell the story of the Primes and the Matrix of Leadership. He could've been revived much earlier instead of the last 10-15 minutes of the show. Instead we get rubbish like LaBoof, tag-along room mate, Porn star and Sector 7 fellow mucking about talking about symbols and then more mucking about in the desert. Horrible.

Once again you're saying as if this movie HAS to happen in such a way, have you ever conside that the story could've been told in another way? Like I've always stated, more robots, less human. This is Transformers after all.

Once again, you chose the corner that best fit your argument and not what people is actually complaining about. There may be a lot of words in your posts but most of them are not necessary. Like the Narnia and Spiderman stuff you posted.

This post has been edited by The Hardest Thing In The World: Jul 6 2009, 02:42 PM

"My question is would you have wanted it any other way when it comes to a movie you trully admire?"

Nimrod, this is where you fail. You just can't see it that others didn't enjoy this one more than the first one. Again the other words in your post are redundant.
And I said less human not completely devoid of it. Get that straight too.

No, I suggest you read it all again and try to understand what I'm saying, nimrod.

No, no, no. Can you read?

"Err thats the thing this premises has been filled with human interaction from the start and has significant amounts of it in previous works for over 20+ years, Spike,Buster, Sparkplug, Daniel have been an integral part of the first movie..."(The rest has been snipped for not adding further to substance)

What has this got to do with what I'm saying?

"And I said less human not completely devoid of it. Get that straight too."

Are you serious? How hard is it for you to understand that I want to see more of the robots and less of the humans. How many times must I re-phrase this. I accept that a setting on Earth has to feature humans but they shouldn't take up most of the screen time, leaving Ironhide with one or two lines, just glimpses of those new Decepticons, etc. I seem to repeating because you aren't getting it.

The first one has a better balance over all and that is why you hear most enjoying it. Get it? This quite tiring you know?

Wow, please can anyone else here tell me that I'm not the only person here who sees nimrod's way of debating a bit flawed. Just read his response to Stupidity Police's post about "it's not all about being true". What?! How old are you nimrod?

This post has been edited by The Hardest Thing In The World: Jul 6 2009, 03:41 PM

No, no, no. How was that an attack? It is just as similar to an earlier post about you getting yourself into a comfortable corner and argue from there, regardless whether it is relevant or no. In other words a bit flawed. And Stupidity Police or any of the other members here are not my gang. I have nothing to do with them, we don't conspire, just like to point it out. In fact this entire post of yours here makes you childish. Getting angry over someone on the internet isn't worth it, take a cup of tea and chill.

Yes kudos to the CGI team. This has to be said.

Dude really, i know saying stuff on the internet and later claiming it to be something irrelevant and not responsible for it is really a norm but please do you want me to dissect and analyze word by word of what you said earlier?

No, you don't assume I'm like that, sir. What a snob!

And how is it when i can clearly see what you are doing and answer it make me childish? how does it make one childish when he or she point the obvious? You were mooting a general consensus by asking members here whether they can see how i post the way you do, which in a sense inviting members to join the bandwagon or consensus that you conjured up that entails my debating skills to be a little flawed just be referring to the way i answer others, how sure are you this is not an open invitation to a flaming war? I'm not even the least bit angry with you nor did i use any derogatory terms that refers to you that may indicate that im angry, seriously how could you again speculate that i'm angry over you(whos some random person on the internet that i could care less about) and again fortify that speculation by saying its not worth to be angry over someone over the internet?

How is asking for an opinion an invitation to an attack? How is it an attack in the first place? Why can't you take the criticism, if any, and reflect on it? Did already you know that there will be quite a few that will agree with me? How is it that you naturally assume there will be people jumping on the bandwagon? You tried very hard here to project an image of someone who is highly intelligent(as with the snobbish way you assume things above) yet you want to be in kids gloves?

This post has been edited by The Hardest Thing In The World: Jul 6 2009, 04:47 PM

It's not that hard to grasp, come on. I think many others here know why I called you a snob. It's clearly quoted. You yourself know it too, it's just that you're trying to wriggle your way out of it and trying to make a victim of yourself.

I won't bother with this snobbish nonsense.

This post has been edited by The Hardest Thing In The World: Jul 6 2009, 05:33 PM

Once again, I'm not bringing in the majority just driving home a point, if it's obvious to everyone else, why not you too? Why do you keep thinking I'm bringing in the majority to the fray and even if I'm doing it(which I'm certainly not), why do you think you need kid gloves or any other special treatment? Why play the victim? Is this not a public forum? Do you think the others are blind? Do you really think they need me to herd them in?

Yes. It's a good idea you wriggle away for now, this has gone off topic too much. And about calling names, pots, kettles, black. You did it too, don't play the victim.

In point form for easy reading( ):

1) You are still accusing me of herding the crowd. Which is wrong of you.

2) There's nothing wrong with throwing in the towel and it doesn't mean I'm finally right, it can be otherwise. Sometimes it is better to just let it go less it gets too tedious for everyone.

3) When I say this has gone off topic too much I was talking about us, not just you, to be fair. I didn't realise I have to make it that obvious.

4) Now don't make a joke of yourself, being here the longest time? Serious? What does that mean? On a internet forum?

5) Yes, take a cuppa and chill. You need it.

Edit:

6) Oh by the way, this just in: I told you not to assume that I'm the sort that go back on what I said. If that is not me trying to discredit your points(in your own words, I'm not sure if this the proper way of saying it, my English ain't that good), then I don't know what is.

7) And you know why I called you a snob. In fact, I'll try to illustrate:

Ali is having an argument with someone on the internet. Ali was reading and replying to this particular person's post and he thinks, "Here we go, this guy is going through the same route again". Ali has been a member for some time and he thinks he knows all this 'routes'(as he like to call it) a poster goes through with. He thinks very little of such posters. He decided to open his reply as such, "Yeah, yeah it is a common thing for someone on the internet to go this route....". What does that make of him, making such bold assumptions and sweeping someone aside as if he is insignificant? I'll let you ponder on this. Maybe Ali is not exactly you but I want you to tell me what you think of Ali, be honest.

8) You do meander on incoherently.

This post has been edited by The Hardest Thing In The World: Jul 6 2009, 07:27 PM

I have no problem with "the Bayformers", I admit I was quite upset with Megatron when I first saw its design but the movie(first one) completely changed my view. He was so bad ass, he IS Megatron!(love how he flicked the human away while saying, "Disgusting" or something to that effect). Actually I like all the robots in the first movie, Blackout and Brawl(confusingly, he calls himself Devastator in the movie) for instance, really stand out. There were a few good designs in the second one too.

This post has been edited by The Hardest Thing In The World: Jul 9 2009, 02:29 PM