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 Starcraft 2 V2, Releasing on 27th of July 2010 :D

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post Jul 2 2009, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ Jul 2 2009, 10:22 AM)
I ask you forumers, where were you first introduced to Starcraft? I bet most of you will say from cybercafes, where the game used to be played on LAN.

In fact, without LAN, the game wouldn't have never even rooted into the Korean gaming scene. In fact, if the game had no LAN, it would turn out to be just another RTS game that nobody would give a shit about in 10 years time.

And I know I should not comment anything about warez, but let us be honest here; Starcraft became famous not through the people that bought the ori ones, but through people who play the pirated ones on LAN cybercafes and at homes and then buying the original ones. Those who didn't buy the original copies only spread the word about Starcraft to another, and another, so that more people would buy the original copies. It's viral advertisement through piracy. The same goes with Warcraft 3.

It seems that Blizzard forgot who brought them to the dance in the first place, which is understandable since Blizzard and Activision are Best Friends Forever now.

If you want issues about non-LAN, then how about this: the ability to play the game without any lag at all. Not all ISPs are fast, and all of you know how 'blazingly fast' our Streamyx connection speed is. If you're happy with playing the game at 500 ping, then it's fine for you, but not fine for a lot of us.
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Actually, my first introduction to multiplayer Starcraft was through Modem to modem connections... I think I only tried it in cafes MUCH later (Because, cafes at the time were bloody expensive)

Actually, Korea has one of the highest Internet penetration and coverage in the entire world. So, if anything, this move is made to benefit THEM.

I don't think its valid to argue that Starcraft 2 should be lenient with piracy just because the first one was. We are no longer in that same backward situation where it was very difficult to find original copies. Previously, yes, physical word of mouth was more important as Internet penetration at the time was very low, so getting the word out on your game was difficult, subsequently though, piracy was harder as well. Now, just about everyone is connected and "viral marketing" doesn't need to rely on actual physical actions anymore.

Again, let me say that Blizzard are not idiots when it comes to implementing connections over LAN. Even now when using Battle.net for Warcraft 3, if you are connected to someone on the same LAN, you are directly connected to them on not over the Internet... Stop with the "Only internet connection" rubbish.
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post Jul 2 2009, 11:38 AM

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But the thing I'm concern about is...

If there's less LAN that able to buy all ori copies for their PCs, The popularity would be decreased. eg. Battlefield 2, etc. Wouldn't it bad for their competitive scene? Just my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(syNcv9 @ Jul 2 2009, 11:38 AM)
But the thing I'm concern about is...

If there's less LAN that able to buy all ori copies for their PCs, The popularity would be decreased. eg. Battlefield 2, etc. Wouldn't it bad for their competitive scene? Just my 2 cents.
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Battlefield 2 tied CD-keys to accounts (Like Dawn of War 2 and the later Company of Heroes games), so unless everyone wanted to play a generic cafe account which had trivial stats or brought their own accounts, there was no point in playing in a cafe.

From what I can tell (Or hope) to do now is hope that CD-keys are still divorced from Battle.net accounts (Like with Warcraft 3). Which means you can access your account from any copy of Warcraft 3 as long as the CD-key is original.

Doubtful though considering what Blizzard seems to be doing with Battle.net at the moment (Currently they're tying CD-keys to accounts)

So yeah, cafes would obviously feel it the most when this comes to past and at the same time ppl will probably have to get their own copies just to play on Bnet in cafes.

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post Jul 2 2009, 12:06 PM

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Errr there are much more debate on this LAN issue on the official battle.net forum in the StarCraft II General Discussion section. Again and again its the debate of the poison or the cancer. Too tired to disscuss LAN or not I'll still buy just hope there is thats all.
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:46 PM

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Another important thing ppl should understand is....

"You should buy the original game to enjoy whatever is in the game"

Stop having the mindset that you can "play without paying".
This LAN issue is really not so serious if the person talking is planning on getting an ori game for themselves.
So what if they tie a CD key to an account? I'll just login my ori and enjoy LAN after that.

And frankly, our local scene is a bit different from the international scene where Koreans are the majority of "true ori supporters" for Blizzard games. You can't blame Blizzard for siding them since we are not "donating" as much cash sales.

So, go get yourselves an ori copy.
And let the guys at Blizzard deal with the tech behind the game, LAN or no LAN.
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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ Jul 2 2009, 09:57 AM)
Securom is only 'better', not 'pretty good', because DRM is never good.

The only reason you see Securom to be better is that customers nagged and complained endless to the point that they have to change their policies regarding DRM. If it werent for the public outcry, we'd have DVD installers capable of only 3 installs per PC. Yeah, have fun with that.
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For me,it's pretty good.

Securom is pretty much what i like.Install and forget.

Never touch the disc again.

The new Battlenet features are still very vague,i would say we wait and see how is it when the full feature comes out.


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QUOTE(PCHo @ Jul 2 2009, 12:46 PM)
Another important thing ppl should understand is....

"You should buy the original game to enjoy whatever is in the game"

Stop having the mindset that you can "play without paying".
This LAN issue is really not so serious if the person talking is planning on getting an ori game for themselves.
So what if they tie a CD key to an account? I'll just login my ori and enjoy LAN after that.

And frankly, our local scene is a bit different from the international scene where Koreans are the majority of "true ori supporters" for Blizzard games. You can't blame Blizzard for siding them since we are not "donating" as much cash sales.

So, go get yourselves an ori copy.
And let the guys at Blizzard deal with the tech behind the game, LAN or no LAN.
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Yes it's true.

People should just avoid buying pirated now.Even pirated games have their own "DRM" now which is the disc automatically dies after 2 installs.Awesome,isnt it?

I do agree with what PCHo says,games arent something that you can play without paying.Games these days are very complex and difficult to make.So,please support ori whenever you can.

If you like the game,buy it.If not,dont play at all.

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post Jul 3 2009, 08:27 AM

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Orange box is RM35 on steam?!?
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QUOTE(komputer @ Jul 3 2009, 08:27 AM)
Orange box is RM35 on steam?!?
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There used to be an offer for RM35.

Few weeks ago.Assasin Creed was also RM35.

Ori games arent so expensive these days.
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post Jul 3 2009, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(komputer @ Jul 3 2009, 08:27 AM)
Orange box is RM35 on steam?!?
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Please stay on topic this is not a HL thread.
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post Jul 3 2009, 10:57 AM

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Yes, I will buy the ori copy, you will buy ori copy. However, it's hard to popularized the game without people that playing LAN. Face it, they are the one that make the game popular even though they are stingy bstard. Well, just thing in my head.
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QUOTE(syNcv9 @ Jul 3 2009, 10:57 AM)
Yes, I will buy the ori copy, you will buy ori copy. However, it's hard to popularized the game without people that playing LAN. Face it, they are the one that make the game popular even though they are stingy bstard. Well, just thing in my head.
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Unfortunately...those that make the game popular are pirates....and they influence others may resort to piracy as well.

So, depending on the mindset on those that they influenced, it may be a good thing ( those being influenced will get ori copies) or a very bad thing (mass torrent ppl LULZ).

In the end, I'm fine with no LAN anyways...since I only have one rig in my house capable of running games and I'm always connected to the internet unless Streamyx decides otherwise
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jul 3 2009, 11:08 AM)
Unfortunately...those that make the game popular are pirates....and they influence others may resort to piracy as well.

So, depending on the mindset on those that they influenced, it may be a good thing ( those being influenced will get ori copies) or a very bad thing (mass torrent ppl LULZ).

In the end, I'm fine with no LAN anyways...since I only have one rig in my house capable of running games and I'm always connected to the internet unless Streamyx decides otherwise
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Mass torrenting is still ok, the worst case scenario are those bluddy chinks Ftard that pirate the game host it on their site make their own cheapo LAN server and collect money monthly from advertisers like the blizzard games are rightfully theirs. vmad.gif mad.gif

Thats what made blizzard make this move I think cos ori-blizzard games are already dirt cheap in china and they still get this in return. After reading whats happening in china I think blizzard have to make this move.
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QUOTE(syNcv9 @ Jul 3 2009, 10:57 AM)
Yes, I will buy the ori copy, you will buy ori copy. However, it's hard to popularized the game without people that playing LAN. Face it, they are the one that make the game popular even though they are stingy bstard. Well, just thing in my head.
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Then,it's time to educate those stingy baskets then.
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post Jul 3 2009, 03:16 PM

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I think everyone who love this game would ultimately buy the originals.

That's no doubt about that.

Up to date patches with support, able to play freely in battle.net are among the reasons for going for originals.

To me, SC2 is like a making of an "uber" game.

What so ever excuses some people would give to defend about the dismissal of the LAN function,

the LAN option had always been an excellent component for the development in SC legacy.

It would somehow be a dissapointment to see its absence the coming SC2.

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post Jul 8 2009, 01:00 AM

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Not much update recently, except the fact that the StarCraft II Beta icon has finally being implemented into the EU Battle.net.

StarCraft Legacy (a well known StarCraft fansite) , in association with Tractor Media has produced a breathtaking StarCraft cinematic which die-hard fans can easily relate to as the first contact between Terran & Protoss on Chau Sara:



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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jul 8 2009, 01:00 AM)
Not much update recently, except the fact that the StarCraft II Beta icon has finally being implemented into the EU Battle.net.

StarCraft Legacy (a well known StarCraft fansite) , in association with Tractor Media has produced a breathtaking StarCraft cinematic which die-hard fans can easily relate to as the first contact between Terran & Protoss on Chau Sara:


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Awesome mass recall (I didn't see the Arbiter till after the recall though. Tassadar's carrier can use Recall?? O___o)
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Jul 8 2009, 11:28 AM)
Awesome mass recall (I didn't see the Arbiter till after the recall though. Tassadar's carrier can use Recall?? O___o)
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You can see the Arbiter at 1:18. Tassadar requested the Judicator (most probably Aldaris) to initiate the recall. smile.gif
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Dind know protoss carrier have a main laser beam.

Didn know that there are zergs working in tractor media. laugh.gif

http://www.tractormedia.ro/artists_Armored...php?language=Ze

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