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 ~**Proton CPS club V4.98**~, First page updated again!

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zenwarlord
post Jul 9 2009, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(4_tune @ Jul 9 2009, 10:52 PM)
hi bro, where to find the the silicone spray u mentioned? and how did u apply it?
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Brother's have it and some spare part shop also sell it. Either u spray directly on the wiper or spray on cloth and wipe it. And the balance of silicon u can spray on all ur door & boot rubber.


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post Jul 10 2009, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(mrbRightside @ Jul 10 2009, 10:30 AM)
hi everybody!!
my loan just approved..waiting for my cps.. icon_rolleyes.gif
cant wait ....

oh btw im noob here..hehee...
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welcome

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post Jul 13 2009, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 13 2009, 09:20 AM)
HiCam for CPS already available from matspeed.. Both intake and exhaust... icon_rolleyes.gif
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wait what summore?

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post Jul 14 2009, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 14 2009, 07:02 AM)
Maybe the high cam has higher lift than standard. But still, higher lift means that to get the most of it, the switching point must be higher than 3.8k rpm and there's also an issue with the 'limiting' ECU.
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that's why we need piggyback.


Added on July 14, 2009, 11:14 am
QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 14 2009, 10:03 AM)
The have both for intake and exhaust.. Already saw the picture in gen2club forum.. Maybe anyone know dori2 car shop, can ask them... About advantage of highcam maybe zen can explain.. Me know nothing... Just know it can give more power tongue.gif

What differ between management and standalone? Have to install them both..? Me wanna install AFR and ACP first before grep the highcam... biggrin.gif Now saving to naik rumah first and will born baby... Than change high performance brakepad... First wanna buy advance trestor, but some said it need to heat up first.. Not practical if drive in the morning on cameron highland... Now confuse to choose.. Bendix metal king, rapid stop, imp.. Hemm hmm.gif
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The high cam it's all about the lifting duration of intake & exhaust. Only the highcam is not enough to draw power from the engine. Port & Polish, rebore TB, exhaust system, fuel pressure, piggyback or standalone, injectors need to be mod as well.

ECU management = piggyback
Standalone = aftermarket ECU
*** only install 1 of them.

Therefore, if planning to go for piggyback, please get Haltech Interceptor as this is the only 1 can work perfectly with Siemen ECU.




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post Jul 14 2009, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 14 2009, 11:16 AM)
U are forgetting UNICHIP. No need high cam can get 140++whp. whistling.gif  laugh.gif
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eh dun la, u start that story of mathematically HP gain by using chart, no wonder the dyno machine can't sell well......
later he come in and start to be joker again biggrin.gif .


Added on July 14, 2009, 1:23 pm
QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 14 2009, 01:02 PM)
Rebore TB already done... Exhaust need straight flow one? S-Flow muffler cannot? Fuel pressure mean AFR kan? (stage 1,stage 2) Injector = fuel rail?
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Straight flow is the best for MT "if" u able to withstand the cabin noise lol. Adjustable Fuel Pressure (AFR) is the one that i've mentioned. Fuel rail and injectors are different. Fuel rail is the carriage of fuel to injector, while injector is the part to inject the fuel to combustion chamber.



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post Jul 15 2009, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Jul 15 2009, 06:00 AM)
some said its due to our power steering bushes that are giving this small issue as well. this is just hearsay but seems logical because the veering left does come back after the alignment has been done. since day one my steering is not straight. it has always been a little to the left. i need to tilt steering to the right to keep the car straight. It seems the rubber holding the power steering rack is not fully holding the rack in place thus there is a small degree of difference. i might change the steering bush to super pro ones when I go down to australia next trip to get a set + all the anti roll bar bushes.. haha.. now cannot go australia becoz of the H1N1 is very rampant 'down under.' cheers.
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source for some RPW parts instead, but i'm not sure what's is common between proton n mit's mivec.


Added on July 15, 2009, 12:07 pm
QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 15 2009, 08:12 AM)
Means that i can change fuel injector without changing fuel rail..? Can install any fuel injector or there is a brand that fit campro?

Campro fuel rail is plastic..?
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I'm not sure about campro fuel rail as I dont own any compro now, perhaps someone can confirm this?

I don't think there is any aftermarket fuel injector that suitable for campro/cps, hopes there will be some 1.8 campro cps release by proton in future and the bigger cc injector can be use.

If u want to use the standard fuel injector with BOT, it can, but only thing u can't go with high boost and i'm doubtful whether can withstand as low as 0.6bar boost as well. For standard injector it uses approx 80% of it capacity with normal fuel pump and fuel regulator, that's y if use high lph fuel pump it will eventually force the injector to run 100% and that will shorten the life span. The worst thing is, ur engine still running lean at low boost.
***Please note this is just asumption, proper study of standard fuel injector, fuel pump lph & fuel regulator is required.


Added on July 15, 2009, 12:08 pm
QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 15 2009, 10:05 AM)
Zen also pointed out that my engine got slight drop of power around 3.5k rpm (from my dyno chart).


Added on July 15, 2009, 10:06 am

Zen also pointed out that my engine got slight drop of power around 3.5k rpm (from my dyno chart).
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have u done any dyno after installing LCP?


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post Jul 15 2009, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 15 2009, 01:17 PM)
Not BOT lah zen sweat.gif Highcam only.... Hope aluminum fuel rail+AFR+ACP already enough... Exhaust system will remain as cannot tahan loud noise... P&P later..
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ohh like that then AFR+ACP can already, no need to mod fuel rail. Btw, more in more out how to use back standard exhaust? need to mod your exhaust system la bro.



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post Jul 15 2009, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 15 2009, 07:29 PM)
Not yet. No budget. Maybe all CPS members can sponsor me, RM5/members.  laugh.gif
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yea i agree with u....but i already sponsor some to u already lol

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post Jul 15 2009, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 15 2009, 07:42 PM)
Already mod lah biggrin.gif ... Just muffler use s-flow, after market one...
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got remove cat con? if yes should be ok already.

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post Jul 15 2009, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 15 2009, 08:15 PM)
Me use 4-2-1 extractor (o2 sensor at 1), trust straight flow bullet and s-flow muffler... So next mod will be brake pad, ACP and AFR/FPR...

p/s: Now in proses apply loan for house.... rclxub.gif After that get baby maybe on february, than can start mod again.... brows.gif
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if you did not use high cam, dun install ACP it's kinda waste of $. Since u've rebore TB, go for P&P, AFR & LCP.



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post Jul 16 2009, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 16 2009, 08:21 AM)
U suggesting that i buy ACP together with cam? LCP already have tongue.gif So AFR is the target... brows.gif Need the oil meter or not eh..?
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Yup, highcam + ACP. for AFR u need to have meter else it will be very difficult to tune.

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post Jul 20 2009, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 20 2009, 10:00 AM)
Feel itchy to upgrade my braking system. Between Steel Braided Hose (RM255) and Cross drilled disc (RM400), which one offer better improvement? From what I've read, the former should be upgraded 1st.
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upgrade to twin port caliper.

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post Jul 20 2009, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(zairee2580 @ Jul 20 2009, 04:27 PM)
Sifoo... what is twin port / 4 port caliper?
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our standard is single pot, twin pot means there is 2 piston and 4 pot means 4 piston.


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post Jul 21 2009, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 21 2009, 08:07 AM)
Is there any recommendation for a good brake pads?

ps: The reason I put disc upgrade in the option is because one of my friend willing to buy my OEM disc to replace his skewed disc. So I've been thinking this is a good chance to upgrade.
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Trestor Advantage RM160/pair for front.


Added on July 21, 2009, 11:24 am
QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Jul 21 2009, 11:00 AM)
sad to say sad.gif
R3 will never develop performance parts for CPS engine
one of R3 man said its hard to develop the parts due to valve lift system in CPS...
btw..s2000 rally car displayed at OU is awesome.. drool.gif
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That means they don't have the capability to mod car. Ever wonder why Vtec & Mivec has been widely modded and converted into monster?




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post Jul 21 2009, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 21 2009, 11:40 AM)
Trestor Advantage has to heat up at certain degree to perform well  ehh zen? Me wanna get it at first, but a guy who claim climb up an down genting for work said it hard to bite in the morning... But overall testimonial its one of the best brake pad... Me wanna try bendit metal king first,,, But IMP also has good reputation...

Is it a need to use performance brake pad for rear..? Same said just front, for rear use normal brake pad.. Same goes for performance rotor.. Just install slotted cross drill for front... The reason is gen2/waja is 'tarik depan' (FF)... But me wonder it will effect EBD... hmm.gif
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yup and in fact all performance brake pad didn't "bite" when it's cold. Metal king is creating alot of dust and finish off ur rotor pretty fast if u don't mind.


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post Jul 21 2009, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 21 2009, 04:57 PM)
I also think that ABS and EBD will not be affected, unless you change the calliper. As my car still under warranty, I will upgrade the brake pad 1st.
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can consider Ferodo as well.

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post Jul 22 2009, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 22 2009, 08:33 AM)
Oh pulak... Then stick to trestor... Any opinion for IMP? Hate brake pad dust.. Make my rim look ugly...
Ok thanks... Then it true that only need to use performance brake pad and rotor for front...?
Go2.. upgrade it, then give review... rclxms.gif
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IMP is have no idea.


Added on July 22, 2009, 12:21 pm
QUOTE(pearjar @ Jul 22 2009, 12:07 PM)
Ferodo Zero?
Tomorrow is salary day... brows.gif
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Yes, Ferodo Zero.



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post Jul 23 2009, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 22 2009, 11:48 PM)
ur certainly rite i never percaya all the crap they say about micro compressor,ignition booster etc. if i wana mod i wana get to the bottom of it nex month gona mod my clutch to use 1.8 clutch housing + disc  flex.gif  hope i can boost my pickup,as headers and mufflers are already done.
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if u opened up those crap device, it will scared u to death....paying for RM200~RM300 end up getting 3 or 4 capacitors which cost not more then RM2. The best part it doesnt have PCB at all. doh.gif


Added on July 23, 2009, 10:33 am
QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Jul 23 2009, 10:02 AM)
blooody bastarrdd vmad.gif  vmad.gif ...some1 scratch my front right  bumper...the fender osso got minor dent n scratch...puksss betol lahhh!!!!...last night park outside myb some1 passing my car...then collide with my front bumper...can c red paint staind...farrrkerr!!!! mad.gif just thts my car twilight blue...if not...ppl can c the scratch....dah langgar blah..!!!bastardd
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happen to me few years back....i got my bumper totally damage, bumper braket , fender dented, head light broken and wiper tank broken. If I caught that *******, his/her 2 ball's will be hang on my rear view mirror.



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post Jul 24 2009, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 24 2009, 11:18 AM)
as i know that ur cps system function optimally with 10w 30 oil if the oil 2 thick is hard for lub pressure to actuate the plunger in the hydraulic bucket tappets.
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I'm not so sure about CPS, but if the plunger was operated based on oil pressure, then the 10w50 gives better pressure compare to 10w30. By installing a oil pressure meter u able to see 10w30 drops pretty much when it's hot compare to 10w50.

I'm using 10w40 on my Mivec and 10w30 sometimes give me problem with the mivec engaging point.

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post Jul 24 2009, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 24 2009, 03:26 PM)
dats why CPS has a oil cooler to keep the oil in optimal temp,i guess mivec has no oil cooler ,the oil galleries in the cps bucket tappet is quite small so i guess thicker viscosity will affect the cps operation. Trust me bro i have many customers who serviced at branches and then come n complaint that the engine feels sluggish after service. I know many SC dont keep stock of 10w 30.
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Mivec don't need oil cooler, as the engine in optimum performance when it's hot and that's totally reverse if compare to CPS I guess. In other words, the hotter (of course in between operating temperature) the better for Mivec to engage.



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