Maybe he can do it like AMG does, read all the code in HEX, then try to change something and see what happen. Anyway, I prefer piggyback since can be re-tune/play around.

Nope. Still thinking. The only major factor that holding me back is that I can't play around with its setting.    Been thinking of getting a 2nd hand safc2 since it cheap these day.
Since my friend selling it quite cheap. 

1) FC is Oklah not too bad and not super also. Mine is Rm50 = 350km-400++km (compare to wira?)
2) No idea about part cost since mine doesn't need parts changed yet. But wira spare part is really really cheap cannot compare with gen2 that has fewer spare part available. And of course ori spare part cost more isn't.
3)For my manual gen2 cps, service is not really cheap. Auto cost much more. Price much depends on the engine oil you choose. My 40K will be next week. I'll share my major service cost then.
4)My car sound proof is ok. comparable to japanese makes like vios.
5)Maybe you'll experience the nyek nyek sound from the back seat or wherever it came from. I complain to sc and they fix it for me.
6)I think gen2 clutch is quite tight (heavy?). It's obvious when it;s new. Mine loosen a bit now. For me gen2 clutch feels way better than myvi. If you're used to clutch i don't think it's a problem. Unless during jamlah.
7)motor control? Don't know what it is. You're maybe referring to drive-by-wire. Yes, it;s not really nice. I don't think it's stupid now that we have cps available on campro.  With cps engaged not many stock cars can match this campro cps engine.

If you're driving a wira right now like I was before I would say the gen2 cps is a much much better car for me.

AFC Neo only can tune A/F right?

That's why i always stick here.. 

Zen, do i really need to make small hole to my CAI bottom part? Afraid rain water will come inside engine.. There is small amount of water trap inside it at bottom part.. Same said, put small hole then the water will come out.. Some said no need since me still using drop in, no way water can come inside engine...

yup uncle zen, the beauty and the unleashed 'beast'.....

Have pic of r3 snorkel? AFAIK, it use with campro plastic 'CAI' which is oval.. CPS use round one..
This (Borrow bro shazmn pic, He sell large snorkel).
Already install that way... So, i need to make small hole at CAI hose bottom?

p/s: Which beast are u..?

if u look at it.. i think u will notice that the extractors are inside the car... 

the CF part with proton logo is actually the air filter i think...

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Added on November 6, 2009, 9:50 pmby the way, people... anyone there knows which is the most northern part of Malaysia? i mean the spot in perlis right? anyone got info? coz i'm going to penang this end mth.. might shoot all the way to perlis for a trial... hehehe

This is it guys... From left to right, me, sphiroth (noted how low his car  ) and jcstasoga..

Hello guys!
I am driving a Neo CPS. 1.6 MT. Tranquility Black. 6months old. odo meter still below 10k km. 

Really interested with anything to do with our CPS engine. Hoping to gain more knowledge from all sifu here. 

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Added on November 13, 2009, 9:17 amI am very much interested with exhaust mod. i would like to know which is the best system for CPS as there is an issue concerning the piping size of the aftermarket product like hotbits full system (1.8") with the original piping (2.0"). Does the diameter of the piping affected the exhaust system performance and its back pressure?

FYI, i already read the whole 124 pages inside this thread. phew. some say good to chge all system n some say retain the stock pipings.
so, wic is the best solution?

fazron80
I've change to 1.85 inch pipe december last year. 9 months using it already. But honestly i don't really like it and planning to get a bigger pipe. Maybe 2" or try to get the original piping size. I've tried driving another exhaust modified gen2 cps that maintain its original pipe and quite surprised with the difference. Pickup alot more better than mine.

sphiroth
Just back from TT with lordragos and jctasoga. Spend time 'discussing' with the SC foreman about mods and stuff. He suggest using standard campro non-cps exhaust system for CPS for better pick-up because of the higher backpressure (smaller piping).

eujinee
hotbitz recomend to downgrade to 1.8" ..coz our car CC is 1.6 only.. .compression aint big...mayb lack of back preassure or somethning.......even honda civic 2.0 piping is not 2" la...

so what is the conclusion? should change piping or retain ori piping size?

hope sifus out there could enlighten me with the best opinion n suggestion    thank u in advance 

i was thinking to change full hotbits system. but the piping size is difference. will this affect the performance n back pressure? 

accurate analogy i must say uncle zen....though these days we have all kind of straws....

so do u mean smaller piping size will put some pressure on our CPS engine? is it bad or good? 

welkam2 to porum!!
good...join us tt next time
DIY ur rim or send to paintshop?nice color..
banana?hahaha...depend if u wanna try to change ur piping...me as for now like the original piping but  terbakar wif eujin "whispers"

quote about small or large piping..i think we shld say depends on engine capacity and also AT o MT...not sure about the back preassure thingy.... buy here my review...2" ori compare with my 1.8"..pick up is almost similar but wen come to top end frm 110 - 180 kph..i feel ezier to go up to tht speed...even with 3 big size fellars on board...!!!my car is AT 3rd and 4th gear original is sucks..but now after changed is so much better...well..need to drag out another stock AT and compare it...

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Added on November 13, 2009, 5:34 pm
uncle zen..dun like tht la.i know no matter how i modified..canot faster thn ur waja 1.....give face abit la...hhahhah

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Added on November 13, 2009, 5:37 pm
my car AT...to be fair...must AT vs AT la..hahha..joking la....well..i dun mind test power...

Eh.. I thought u already hunt for waja. For ur wife..

Why brought satria at the first place? Young heart still pumping??

young heart can still pumping but the pipeline is aging... don't pump too much laa uncle....heheheh 
wait... wait...wait....another AT is in the making....
i'd love to have the formula.... 

A lady drive mivec??  

Buy one with  campro lah.. Can join back campro geng here zen.. Hehe Then change to evo...

Thanks for the reply. My is non-cps. By the way just out of curiousity is the CPS that good as I am really dissapointed with my Campro.

I am in the process of bailing out from Waja but it is embarassing to mention trade in as everybody wants to press down the price of my Waja. No offence to you guys I hope.

regarding the piping size, i was told that the ori piping also change size, the bending part is actually smaller in size (1.8") than the straight one (2") (the mid section-the one connected with the extractor)

i got some explanation from SpeedWorks:

The reason the original size is 2.0" is because when the pipe reached a bend, it will be smaller in diameter and will make the flow not consistant. For our Hot Bits exhaust system, since we use mendral bending machine, the piping diameter at the bends will be the same, therefore the flow will be consistant. That's how the power is increased....

wad do sifus think about this?

ahaha, ofcos got ps edit, some contrast n sharpness. thats all 

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Added on November 14, 2009, 10:35 am

i see..will the OEM piping still the best to use or just go for custome piping with 2"? so if i wan to do custom piping, wad is the best set up?

Gen.2 CPS auto, ok? Not an experienced driver and too lazy to learn manual esp in KL... (even tho I love stick shift)

I wanna ask something about waja cps manual owner here..

Your gearbox izit having a black cover below the gearbox? I had realize something that some cps is using gearbox without the the black cover below the gearbox and some is having the cover (new batch cps). If it have the cover below, it was a mivec gearbox. I see some of my customer cps first batch gearbox is different.

I've read somewhere that mivec FD is 4.5 while CPS is 4.3.

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Added on November 15, 2009, 5:59 pmAnyway shingchaii, what's your rpm when 140km/h@5th gear?

Hi all,
Does your CPS Model (Gen2/Waja/Neo) comes with extended warranty? How do we know it is covered by the EWP? Does it only applicable for 5 years and below loan? Any other hidden term & condition or cost for the EWP? :erm: Please advice..

Thanks in advance...

I'm taking the silver coz i plan to paint it white just after i get the car.
Paint outside only
Warranty did not cover on paint right?