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post May 29 2009, 02:13 PM, updated 9y ago

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Iraqi Teen Solves 300-Year-Old Math Puzzle in Four Months


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An Iraqi-born 16-year-old reportedly has cracked a math puzzle that has gone unsolved for over 300 years.

Mohamed Altoumaimi, who immigrated to Sweden six years ago, took only four months to find a formula that explains a sequence of calculations known as the Bernoulli numbers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli_numbers , a code that had stumped some of the best experts in the field, Agence France-Presse reported.

Altoumaimi said after his high school teachers were skeptical about his work he contacted professors at Uppsala University, one of Sweden's top institutions, who confirmed his formula was correct and offered him a place at the university, AFP reported.

The teen opted to continue his general studies but planned to take courses in advanced mathematics and physics this summer, AFP reported.


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090528/twl-i...le-3cd7efd.html
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post May 29 2009, 02:15 PM

 

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post May 29 2009, 02:17 PM

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post May 29 2009, 02:17 PM

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post May 29 2009, 02:18 PM

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Wow..he should be offered scholarship to do a mathematical tripos in University of cambridge.

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post May 29 2009, 02:19 PM

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who says muslims are stupid...
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waoh.. guess whoS her teacher brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ May 29 2009, 02:19 PM)
who says muslims are stupid...
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Why does it suddenly involve Islam or any religion for that matter? Why are we so biased?

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post May 29 2009, 02:21 PM

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muslims are smarter then jews
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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ May 29 2009, 02:21 PM)
muslims are smarter then jews
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u know the drill
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post May 29 2009, 02:24 PM

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i opened the wiki page and my brain fried

now i have lotsa respect to this chap
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QUOTE(GohSooHowe @ May 29 2009, 02:23 PM)
who say he is a muslim?
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I guess he took the generalization that all Iraqis are Muslims.
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QUOTE(GohSooHowe @ May 29 2009, 02:23 PM)
who say he is a muslim?
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"Mohamed Altoumaimi" i dont recall any other religion(NOT BASHING) have a name starting like that.
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post May 29 2009, 02:28 PM

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Even in Quran said the most brialliant race is Jewish..~

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religion is just religion...
that fella clever not BECAUSE of religion...
religion can guide or help one become clverer...
but most of the time...it just makes them stupider thru itz fanatism and shit...

*peace*
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QUOTE(bikz @ May 29 2009, 02:29 PM)
religion is just religion...
that fella clever not BECAUSE of religion...
religion can guide or help one become clverer...
but most of the time...it just makes them stupider thru itz fanatism and shit...

*peace*
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no need to bebel here..~
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QUOTE(kreyleaf @ May 29 2009, 02:28 PM)
Even in Quran said the most brialliant race is Jewish..~
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always and ALWAYS prove a Quran statement with the verse.

EDIT: better close this thread, from Iraq teen to a religion thread already.

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I got nothing but respect for this guy notworthy.gif

my add math also only B3 sweat.gif

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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ May 29 2009, 02:28 PM)
"Mohamed Altoumaimi" i dont recall any other religion(NOT BASHING) have a name starting like that.
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Its an Arabic name. Quite a significant amount of Iraqis are Christians. And even they have names like Mohamed. So yea, just because his name is Mohamed doesn't make him a Muslim, unless stated otherwise.
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QUOTE(GohSooHowe @ May 29 2009, 02:23 PM)
who say he is a muslim?
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Are they any Christian or Buddhist or Jewish gonna put Mohamed in their name? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ May 29 2009, 02:28 PM)
"Mohamed Altoumaimi" i dont recall any other religion(NOT BASHING) have a name starting like that.
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if u go to UAE, tons of ppl have a name like that,yet some of them are christian...

btw why suddenly mentioned about religion?isn't that we supposed to say that the kid is genius?
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ May 29 2009, 02:31 PM)
always and ALWAYS prove a Quran statement with the verse.

EDIT: better close this thread, from Iraq teen to a religion thread already.
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I'm not sure if it's from the Quran or Hadith. But I remember my Ustaz saying it. That God said the Jew are the smartest, most good looking, cunning, and dangerous among all races.
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QUOTE(RMaliff @ May 29 2009, 02:34 PM)
I'm not sure if it's from the Quran or Hadith. But I remember my Ustaz saying it. That God said the Jew are the smartest, most good looking, cunning, and dangerous among all races.
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He told me to jump off KLCC on the 60th floor too, but I didnt listen
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post May 29 2009, 02:37 PM

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I kinda like where this thread, not until a SOB prick mofo started the whole religion thing.
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post May 29 2009, 02:38 PM

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Ppl smart what going to do with the religion?? Or you guys want say he/she smart because of his/her religion guide and to prove other how smart you can be a part of them ?? zzz
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QUOTE(kreyleaf @ May 29 2009, 02:30 PM)
no need to bebel here..~
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wat us bebel??
that brad pit movie arr whistling.gif

QUOTE(beatlesalbum @ May 29 2009, 02:36 PM)
He told me to jump off KLCC on the 60th floor too, but I didnt listen
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sue him....!
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so is he gonna become a male escort next?
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QUOTE(Ahsin1987 @ May 29 2009, 02:38 PM)
Ppl smart what going to do with the religion?? Or you guys want say he/she smart because of his/her religion guide and to prove other how smart you can be a part of them ?? zzz
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exactly.
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yeah why the religion?

kids is genius, nuff said!
hopefully this is not another parent-teach-math-from-the-he-was-born. lol
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Yea, I don't understand why suddenly religion is brought in, and which leads to religious race (A is better than B, C is better than D etc.) and flaming. The fact is that he's smart, no matter what race, religion or nationality.

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looking at wiki site of bernoulli no.. i rclxub.gif rolleyes.gif sweat.gif
what exactly has he solved? lollololol
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Ban the mofo who start the religion thinggy and ask him to eat an e-penir cawk meat sammich. Gaddamnit, he just ruined my day.
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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ May 29 2009, 02:19 PM)
who says muslims are stupid...
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WACK ur head buddy doh.gif doh.gif

Even what is Bernoulli numbers U also don't know


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QUOTE(lokohotkoko @ May 29 2009, 02:45 PM)
looking at wiki site of bernoulli no.. i  rclxub.gif  rolleyes.gif  sweat.gif
what exactly has he solved? lollololol
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Lol..I search Wikipedia and someone linked his article to Bernoulli number. So if you type in 'Mohamed Altoumaimi' it'll direct you to the bernoulli number page.
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QUOTE(lokohotkoko @ May 29 2009, 02:45 PM)
looking at wiki site of bernoulli no.. i  rclxub.gif  rolleyes.gif  sweat.gif
what exactly has he solved? lollololol
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dont worry.. your not the only one who doesn't know what has he solved. icon_rolleyes.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(RMaliff @ May 29 2009, 02:34 PM)
I'm not sure if it's from the Quran or Hadith. But I remember my Ustaz saying it. That God said the Jew are the smartest, most good looking, cunning, and dangerous among all races.
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agree...
i ve heard this also..
thats y most of the scientist is jew...
even there is a film (i think last year i dload it) story about one of scientist from jew and other from german...
they dont 'iktiraf' the jew scientist is because he is Jew..
but at last .. they 'iktiraf' the scientist based on some reason etc...

it s ok...
im trying to find the dalil for u...
(if im not mistaken, most of nabi n rasul also yahudi (bani israel) )
correct me if im wrong..
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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ May 29 2009, 02:19 PM)
who says muslims are stupid...
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what has it got to do with religions? blink.gif
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Mohamed Altoumaimi > Adi Putra
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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ May 28 2009, 11:19 PM)
who says muslims are stupid...
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their own act.
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QUOTE(kreyleaf @ May 29 2009, 02:50 PM)
agree...
i ve heard this also..
thats y most of the scientist is jew...
even there is a film (i think last year i dload it) story about one of scientist from jew and other from german...
they dont 'iktiraf' the jew scientist is because he is Jew..
but at last .. they 'iktiraf' the scientist based on some reason etc...

it s ok...
im trying to find the dalil for u...
(if im not mistaken, most of nabi n rasul also yahudi (bani israel) )
correct me if im wrong..
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the smartest race in the world is jew including Einstein.... yep all except Muhammad S.A.W
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QUOTE(kreyleaf @ May 29 2009, 02:28 PM)
Even in Quran said the most brialliant race is Jewish..~
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but sadly they ...
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i was also a genius, but education ruined me...
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stop the religious topic and lets together solve the mystery of tha no.
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Later he will be a gigolo.

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Maths genius -> Prostitute

Mohamed Altoumaimi
Maths genius -> ??
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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ May 29 2009, 02:21 PM)
muslims are smarter then jews
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Clearly proven its because of human like u, others are still stupid and living in the racial generation smile.gif Bravo thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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from what i understand, the kid solved the puzzle on how the bernoulli numbers are generated....

i can understand what this kid has solved. see I told you all i was a genius
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why cant we just treat human as a single unique identity? lol

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this guy is great.
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QUOTE(Hidan @ May 29 2009, 03:03 PM)
Later he will be a gigolo.

Shilpa Lee
Maths genius -> Prostitute

Mohamed Altoumaimi
Maths genius -> ??
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Suicide bomber

Oh wai-
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Great? He is a genius who solved something which was stranded puzzled for 300 years smile.gif Congrats for u kid smile.gif
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QUOTE(peinsama @ May 29 2009, 03:08 PM)
Suicide bomber 

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Dude. Stop stereotyping.
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He should have help Saddam on WMD...not on IQ puzzle...
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he looks like a jew anyway

1) Jew = middle eastern, arab = middle eastern

2) Same breed different religions

3) Judaism --deviant-->Christianity--deviant-->Islam
why need to fight?

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Reasons for bringing religion to this topic.

1) People's generalization of race and religion.

2) People's prejudice and egoistic perception

3) People's stupidity

I am no angel, cuz I am an atheist... anyway

This boy is brilliant and no 1 can take that from him.

But the replies to my replies showed a few things about people in this forum

1) racists

2) bigots

3) anti-Semitics

4) just plain stupid


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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ May 29 2009, 03:17 PM)
he looks like a jew anyway

1) Jew = middle eastern, arab = middle eastern

2) Same breed different religions

3) Judaism --deviant-->Christianity--deviant-->Islam
why need to fight?

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Reasons for bringing religion to this topic.

1) People's generalization of race and religion.

2) People's prejudice and egoistic perception

3) People's stupidity

I am no angel, cuz I am an atheist... anyway

This boy is brilliant and no 1 can take that from him.

But the replies to my replies showed a few things about people in this forum

1) racists

2) bigots

3) anti-Semitics

4) just plain stupid
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Dude..you're the first one who started on religion.
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QUOTE(Thinkingfox @ May 29 2009, 03:18 PM)
Dude..you're the first one who started on religion.
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Yes. and i am an atheist so sue me.

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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ May 29 2009, 03:20 PM)
Yes. and i am an atheist so sue me.

With action comes reaction. --->seriously, I do get high on those reactions  rclxms.gif
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You don't believe in God(s) but you like to create tension among other people. What type of atheist are you?
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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ May 29 2009, 03:20 PM)
Yes. and i am an atheist so sue me.

With action comes reaction. --->seriously, I do get high on those reactions  rclxms.gif
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that make me sad you an atheist..
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lol.. how smart also iraq got smashed
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Muslim is genius.
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QUOTE(HHH816 @ May 29 2009, 03:29 PM)
iraqis are lucky because they got to kill american
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So would you want to do that too?
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QUOTE(Thinkingfox @ May 29 2009, 03:23 PM)
You don't believe in God(s) but you like to create tension among other people. What type of atheist are you?
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I am an atheist. THE END.

like i said clearly in my previous reply, if you just throw a stone on the street you will likely to hit a bigot or a racist in KL.
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QUOTE(Thinkingfox @ May 29 2009, 03:30 PM)
So would you want to do that too?
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If American invade my country,i would certainly do
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QUOTE(HHH816 @ May 29 2009, 03:36 PM)
If American invade my country,i would certainly do
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Invading can be of

1) economic

2) culture

3) politic

4) occupying

1, 2, and 3 already did and still happening in malaysia, except the 4th... so what say u?

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wiki cut and paste:

Actually that Cp is C^p_i (i.e. the binomial coefficient). Nice formula, though I don't know how novel it is. A straightforward implementation would seem to lead to a summation of O(n2) terms, and each term involves the factor pn (whose size is on the order of O(n log n) bits). At a quick glance this would seem to be way slower than Harvey's O(n2 log(n)2+eps) method (mentioned in this article) but I could be wrong. --Jmk (talk) 12:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

In fact the formula seems very similar to Worpitzky's formula developed in 1883 (according to this very article). Is this the new formula, or what is it? --Jmk (talk) 14:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, in fact Dalarnas Tidningar clearly says (quoting Lars-Åke Lindahl from Uppsala university): Men det han har kommit fram till är välbekant och han har inte löst något som tidigare har varit okänt, säger Lindahl till TT. ("What he has developed is well known, and he has not found something that was unknown before.") So it would appear that the "new formula" is simply a re-discovery of Worpitzky's 1883 formula. Nice for a high-school kid, but nothing really new. --Jmk (talk) 15:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Dalarnas Tidningar has now posted a clarification, basically stating that Mohammed has independently discovered a previously known formula. (This is also part of the online article, but seems to have been cut from the paper edition; perhaps that is the source of the confusion.) -- magetoo 18:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


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Yes. and i am an atheist so sue me.

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wiki cut and paste:

    Actually that Cp is C^p_i (i.e. the binomial coefficient). Nice formula, though I don't know how novel it is. A straightforward implementation would seem to lead to a summation of O(n2) terms, and each term involves the factor pn (whose size is on the order of O(n log n) bits). At a quick glance this would seem to be way slower than Harvey's O(n2 log(n)2+eps) method (mentioned in this article) but I could be wrong. --Jmk (talk) 12:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

        In fact the formula seems very similar to Worpitzky's formula developed in 1883 (according to this very article). Is this the new formula, or what is it? --Jmk (talk) 14:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

        Ok, in fact Dalarnas Tidningar clearly says (quoting Lars-Åke Lindahl from Uppsala university): Men det han har kommit fram till är välbekant och han har inte löst något som tidigare har varit okänt, säger Lindahl till TT. ("What he has developed is well known, and he has not found something that was unknown before.") So it would appear that the "new formula" is simply a re-discovery of Worpitzky's 1883 formula. Nice for a high-school kid, but nothing really new. --Jmk (talk) 15:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

            Dalarnas Tidningar has now posted a clarification, basically stating that Mohammed has independently discovered a previously known formula. (This is also part of the online article, but seems to have been cut from the paper edition; perhaps that is the source of the confusion.) -- magetoo 18:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
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Invading can be of

1) economic

2) culture

3) politic

4) occupying

1, 2, and 3 already did and still happening in malaysia, except the 4th... so what say u?
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lol what a big fat lie. its pretty obvious that ure a muslim malay.  icon_idea.gif  brows.gif
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he looks like a jew anyway

But the replies to my replies showed a few things about people in this forum

1) racists

2) bigots

3) anti-Semitics

4) just plain stupid

5) Doing it for the Lulz


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i'll wait for the 4th one ,my ak is hunger for american blood
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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ May 29 2009, 02:19 PM)
who says muslims are stupid...
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wow....can i borrow his mind for my exams?surely with his brain...i can get 4 flats...thumbup.gif
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