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English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, Post Season Talks/Discussion

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mokhzaini
post Jun 4 2009, 02:06 PM

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CR going there, he will never be the same again. too many egos and great players there. i am not saying man united is second rate to real madrid, but the best balanced squad cannot be full of big stars.

man united's playing members complement each other fantastically. these many-positional players like Oshea, park, etc etc definitely fill the gaps left by the other collagues almost seamessly. its like pull n play. for example oshea. i really take my hat off for him. never complaint. never shrike off tackles. just plain gentleman. definitely.

the younger ones should take a leaf out of the irishman's life. chin up, heads down and definitely the world is yours.

what worries me the most is whether man united will suffer the after-sir-matt 's syndrom. i believe at lot of us read so much about will mcguiness, ron atkinson et.al. even we got relegated at that period. i wonder whether they be able to have a much better post-sir alex period.

a lot have been mentioned about moyes. for some reasons, he seems quite good for me - hes a scottish (hohoh, i know nationality never play any part on being a good coach/ manager but hey atleast he n sir alex has a common thing wink.gif ), and also both him and sir alex are from Drumchapel, the academy like the French's and England's.

can he go head on with the egos in man united's squad? should we go for a big headed coach or go for a low key man like moyes? hemm...
mokhzaini
post Jun 4 2009, 08:42 PM

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did u guys just read what florentino perez was saying about bringing CR to madrid?

dont get me wrong. in this extreme difficult circumstances, i would be happy to see the back of him flogging to madrid for a world record. atleast 90 or 95 million. but i'd like to highlight what perez action is.

if that one is not consider 'tapping', then wtf is that? arent uefa or fifa suppose to sanction or do anything about it? the rules are simple. if you are interested, talk to the club. get a price, done a deal. and THEN ONLY TALK to the PLAYER.

what i have heard all these rubbish about ronaldo for the past 2 seasons are blatantly tapping. robbing on a day light. and yet platini, blatter done nothing?

see how a double standard game by the authorities? they atleast should have charge or if no balls at all, warn madrid of bringing the game into disrepute or something. but....? f... it man.

ps- platini last time openly talk about his favouritism on juventus going all the way to uefa final. see. f it man.
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post Jun 4 2009, 09:03 PM

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f it whatever policy he has. or who ever he buy doesnt interest me.

but thats the daylight blatant tapping. i mean, clubs get points deducted in the past or managers get fined.

but madrid, for 2 running seasons, got off scotch free. f it. i cant stand the mob.
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 5 2009, 06:33 AM)
Excuse me, bro. Erm, I would like to reply to nearly all the lines you have posted.

First, bringing Ronaldo and Kaka to Madrid are among his promises he made during his presidential campaign. That is understandable, right? If he get elected, then RM will get 2 best players in the world. He even said that he maybe will try to sign Messi and Iniesta. And now he is trying to fulfill his promises. Is that unethical?

And what do you expect Platini will do to RM? I think RM are just talking about this saga. No one has the evidence that RM has illegally approached Ronaldo. No wrongdoing what so ever. RM just talked, and you get nervous. Do you expect Platini or Blatter to ask RM to shut up instead? Send a letter from Zurich to Madrid, with a title: Perez, please shut up. doh.gif

No, no, no, for the past 2 years, they only had the desire to sign CR, RM didn't tap him. So did RM tap Zidane? They tapped Figo? I do think RM did all their deals fairly, including during the Galacticos era, although there some controversies involving Figo (and considering all rumors of him being forced to sign for RM are not true).

RM robbed in daylight? CR is still with you guys, isn't he? Why you get so angry?

And about the last line, you know that Platini spent his best years with Juve, right? Its logical for him to support his beloved club. That doesn't show he is biased in his works and judgments. Please show me what are his works which are unjust to you guys.
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1) which is according to you, is consider 'ethical'? fullfilling promises or ANNOUNCING to the world that 'i am gonna get this player, that player, etc etc'? sounds like you are referring to promises he had done for his campaign. to hell with his campaign. i dont care. he can promise everything, but by mentioning names, (for the sake of the votes of course) you kinda put an 'obligation' to sign such players. and for me, thats blatantly tapping. managers get done by tapping, infact sanctions were taken in the past by the authorities. but madrid? nada.

2) i am expecting platini to be a uefa president. not a juve lover or the french player. did RM tap Zidane/ Figo etc etc ? if u can consider the promises as tapping, yes indeed they did tap those players. again i cant confirm to the real fact, but there is a story about florentino met zidane at a function and he duly wrote on a piece of a napkin 'do u want to play for Real Madrid' for Zidane to read. then the world record was shattered. i dont know about figo, but for sure SOMETHING extraordinary must been conducted for a player to move from an arch rival to another. i dun suggest tapping happened but yea, in some capacity i believe there was. as for platini, what he should have done is, to atleast tell madrid to stop. and ask them if they really want a contracted player, go and make a deal with the club the player is contracted. then announce to the world. its all written in that bloody rule book, isn it? tapping is a delicate process to be proved. but nontheless it is there. its not something un-proveable.

3) how can such statement by perez, even for his campaign purpose isnt consider tapping? yea he still with man united, but this is not about him ronaldo, its about perez and his tapping method. i am not angry on ronaldo. he can do whatever he want. and play with whomever he wishes. but perez is sort of ... asking the player about playing for real. thats the basis on my argument.

4) platini elected to be the president. even though he was juve through n through, he cannot make such statement. people will see that as a base of preferrence. i am not saying hes unfair whatsoever, but now there is only michel platini the uefa president. and platini the president has to leave platini the juve player out completely. well, as long as hes the uefa president. so avoid to make such statement.
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post Jun 9 2009, 11:15 AM

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so this is the start of the new galacticos. their business plan is always clear - get the best+popular players outhere regardless of the price. and try to cash in on the popularities. get some payback money

when a big name joins madrid, i am sure the negotiations for the other galacticos will be easy.

i heard about Santander is their banker and would validate all the signings. Of course in these economic circumstance, only strong plans would even tempt the bank to sign up with madrid. and they got the best tv deal worth 1 billion i read somewhere. florentino is there just to manage.



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