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matyrze
post Jun 5 2009, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Jun 4 2009, 08:42 PM)
did u guys just read what florentino perez was saying about bringing CR to madrid?

dont get me wrong. in this extreme difficult circumstances, i would be happy to see the back of him flogging to madrid for a world record. atleast 90 or 95 million. but i'd like to highlight what perez action is.

if that one is not consider 'tapping', then wtf is that? arent uefa or fifa suppose to sanction or do anything about it? the rules are simple. if you are interested, talk to the club. get a price, done a deal.  and THEN ONLY TALK to the PLAYER.

what i have heard all these rubbish about ronaldo for the past 2 seasons are blatantly tapping. robbing on a day light. and yet platini, blatter done nothing?

see how a double standard game by the authorities? they atleast should have charge or if no balls at all, warn madrid of bringing the game into disrepute or something. but....? f... it man.

ps- platini last time openly talk about his favouritism on juventus going all the way to uefa final. see. f it man.
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Excuse me, bro. Erm, I would like to reply to nearly all the lines you have posted.

First, bringing Ronaldo and Kaka to Madrid are among his promises he made during his presidential campaign. That is understandable, right? If he get elected, then RM will get 2 best players in the world. He even said that he maybe will try to sign Messi and Iniesta. And now he is trying to fulfill his promises. Is that unethical?

And what do you expect Platini will do to RM? I think RM are just talking about this saga. No one has the evidence that RM has illegally approached Ronaldo. No wrongdoing what so ever. RM just talked, and you get nervous. Do you expect Platini or Blatter to ask RM to shut up instead? Send a letter from Zurich to Madrid, with a title: Perez, please shut up. doh.gif

No, no, no, for the past 2 years, they only had the desire to sign CR, RM didn't tap him. So did RM tap Zidane? They tapped Figo? I do think RM did all their deals fairly, including during the Galacticos era, although there some controversies involving Figo (and considering all rumors of him being forced to sign for RM are not true).

RM robbed in daylight? CR is still with you guys, isn't he? Why you get so angry?

And about the last line, you know that Platini spent his best years with Juve, right? Its logical for him to support his beloved club. That doesn't show he is biased in his works and judgments. Please show me what are his works which are unjust to you guys.
matyrze
post Jun 5 2009, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Jun 5 2009, 12:04 PM)
1) which is according to you, is consider 'ethical'? fullfilling promises or ANNOUNCING to the world that 'i am gonna get this player, that player, etc etc'? sounds like you are referring to promises he had done for his campaign. to hell with his campaign. i dont care. he can promise everything, but by mentioning names, (for the sake of the votes of course) you kinda put an 'obligation' to sign such players. and for me, thats blatantly tapping. managers get done by tapping, infact sanctions were taken in the past by the authorities. but madrid? nada.

2) i am expecting platini to be a uefa president. not a juve lover or the french player. did RM tap Zidane/ Figo etc etc ? if u can consider the promises as tapping, yes indeed they did tap those players. again i cant confirm to the real fact, but there is a story about florentino met zidane at a function and he duly wrote on a piece of a napkin 'do u want to play for Real Madrid' for Zidane to read. then the world record was shattered. i dont know about figo, but for sure SOMETHING extraordinary must been conducted for a player to move from an arch rival to another. i dun suggest tapping happened but yea, in some capacity i believe there was. as for platini, what he should have done is, to atleast tell madrid to stop. and ask them if they really want a contracted player, go and make a deal with the club the player is contracted. then announce to the world. its all written in that bloody rule book, isn it? tapping is a delicate process to be proved. but nontheless it is there. its not something un-proveable.

3) how can such statement by perez, even for his campaign purpose isnt consider tapping? yea he still with man united, but this is not about him ronaldo, its about perez and his tapping method. i am not angry on ronaldo. he can do whatever he want. and play with whomever he wishes. but perez is sort of ... asking the player about playing for real. thats the basis on my argument.

4) platini elected to be the president. even though he was juve through n through, he cannot make such statement. people will see that as a base of preferrence. i am not saying hes unfair whatsoever, but now there is only michel platini the uefa president. and platini the president has to leave platini the juve player out completely. well, as long as hes the uefa president. so avoid to make such statement.
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1) Verx has answered these ethical issues. You have to understand, La Liga clubs presidents are appointed by election among soci. Yes, surely, the clubs with RM stature, will always hunt for the world's best. Is that wrong? Only Man Utd may hunt for the world best? You don't care? You have to care, if you want to urge authorities to take action. You have to understand the situation first. The WHOLE situation, first. And care to give out some examples of FIFA/UEFA punishing clubs that started a transfer saga? Don't you think all these transfer saga was started by the media? No less from the English media, right?

2) C'mon, everybody know Platini is a Juve fan, even before he made the statement. And I would like to stress again that Platini didn't favor Juve in anyways either. About Zidane, you told us a story. Yeah a story, not a fahct. How reliable the source of the story? You love gossip? Hmmm, everybody love gossip, but just don't take it too seriously.

3) Again, did Perez already talked to CR directly?

4) Only people like you will think that he is biased to Juve. Am I a fan of Juve? No. Why I choose to not to rant about his comments? Well, why would I complain? He had a tremendous career in Juve. He loves Juve. He can't leave that out, especially if people asks him a question about his sentiments. As long as he doesn't show any type of biased decision in his works, I'm OK with it. Again, please tell me what are the examples of him using his power to discriminate the English. Can you?

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