haha.. i think they are taking this game too seriously... maybe they put too much effort in trying to win and new player (noob) still have no idea what to do make them more frustrated lol... ohh and 1 more thing for thread starter... this game is not only bout farming... the 1 that scold u got point u nid to find time to farm and not farming throughout the game.. you should see whether your hero is a late game hero or early game... if early game, u should be gangbanging with your teammates instead of trying to farm to get better items