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valentinonkk
post Oct 2 2010, 07:26 PM

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Dear All,

I would like to share my case here. smile.gif

I am facing the same problem now with MAXIS!!! vmad.gif

Ok. I try to make it short. hmm.gif

I got my iphone4 on the 24th Sept 10 and my bill captured until 27th Sept 10.

Maxis charged me usage of 363mb (which is equivalent to RM18++ in the bill (from 24-27th Sept 10) but my iphone shows total data usage of 353mb as at today, 2 Oct 2010.

I went to Maxis Center TTDI and i was poorly served by a fellow called AzXXXX.


He cant explain why my phone shows only 353mb but they charged me 363mb and mentioned sth funny:

1) Although i hv a 2gb/mth data plan (ivalue2), it doesnt mean that i have approx. 66mb/day (2,000,000mb/30day)! WTF! shakehead.gif

2) He said for Ivalue2, Maxis is actually charging me abt RM50/mth for the 2gb/mth data plan only, so i m not entitled to 66mb/day! So i told him it is Maxis' problem rather than my problem whether Maxis charged me RM15 or RM50 or RM1 for the 2gb/mth data plan, as long as i signed the 2gb/mth plan, i shld b entitled for the 2gb/mth or approx 66mb/day! He laughed at me and asked: WHY THIS IS MAXIS PROBLEM?? sweat.gif

3) I told him i surfed net via wifi in my house most of the time, so the data usage shldnt be so high. He said that WIFI usually is not stable and when it happens, 3g data will be used. (of cos i know whether the phone is connected to wifi or 3g bcoz u can easily see it at the screen!!!!)


The CS was really bad and lousy! When i asked for his name, he did not even look at me and tell me his name. He just point me to his name tag and look at somewhere else. mad.gif

I was pissed off and headed straight to The Garden Maxis Centre.

I noticed that when Maxis overcharged, they will usually:
1) At first, insist that u hv over-used and make u think twice on the complaint.
2) When they know they couldnt changed ur mind, they will offer to waive 50% of the usage for u. They will then tell u that even if u want to lodge it as a case (which they will giv u a case no.), u MAY not even get a single cent rebate.


However, I insisted to lodge a complaint.

If this case cant be resolved happily, i am ready to pay for the penalty and go straight to Digi Centre!

I have warned all my frens who are getting the Data Plan from Maxis. I hope u guys take extra precaution especially on the 1st month of your data usage! Pls also be reminded that the 1st month of ur data usage will not come after 1 month, it depends on ur Billing Date. It may come right after 1 week!

I wonder if my phone connected to WIFI but with the Mobile Data switched ON, will i be charged for the 3g mobile data too althoght the screen shows connected to WIFI???? hmm.gif

I have been a MAXIS customer for more than 5years! I think it is the right time to make a change, for me! laugh.gif

Sorry for long story!

This post has been edited by valentinonkk: Oct 2 2010, 07:39 PM
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post Oct 2 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Oct 2 2010, 10:09 PM)
This sounds scary. How do you check the usage in your bill?
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U can go to maxis centre and ask them to print for u
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post Oct 3 2010, 07:20 AM

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QUOTE(crixalisrox @ Oct 2 2010, 11:16 PM)
The usage of bill include the number u called and sms had been used ???
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Yes, but ur bill will not show the details of the data u used. laugh.gif

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post Oct 3 2010, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(bluray movies @ Oct 3 2010, 03:13 PM)
Yeah, i agree with u.
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Yes!

RM0.05 for every 10KB is damn expensive and doesnt make sense. It is ridiculous! vmad.gif

I am sure the majority of those who get their bill right after 1 week or so will be SURPRISED as they never inform u of ur entitlement. It is a TRAP!

I asked the fellow y Maxis charged me for 363mb data usage up to 27/09/10 but my phone shows only 353mb as at 02/10/10, he said Apple's record is incorrect. He said Maxis' record is 99% correct most of the time. As We do not really have our own record to check against Maxis', we have no chance to prove them wrong! Even if u have your own data usage record, they can prove u wrong too! shakehead.gif

I wonder is there anyone in the world tried to sue Apple or Maxis for the incorrect data usage record??? At the end it will be just a never ending story and end up we as a consumer, to bear all the cost! vmad.gif

Btw, can you please provide me the link to MCMC or CMC? hmm.gif

Thank you so much, bro. laugh.gif
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post Oct 3 2010, 03:51 PM

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For me, 2gb per month is sufficient. It may be more than sufficient for me too! smile.gif

It depends on how much u rely on the 3g data. For me, i am not worried much on the monthly data usage.

The point i wanted to highlight to all forumers here is the FIRST BILL! You have to take extra precaution on the first bill.

I suspect Maxis will charge u for data usage if u do not turn off the mobile data while surfing via WIFI. I hv learnt the lession and from now on, i will turn it off whenever there is WIFI around.

So i expect everything will be fine for the next month. smile.gif

Hopefully there is no more bill shock for the next bill! wink.gif
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post Oct 3 2010, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Oct 3 2010, 06:23 PM)
I am on 500mb plan on my iphone3g, then got once i used too much and i am scared that i over quota. So i call up maxis and say, can i check how much data i used already, they tell me cannot, and i have to wait for my bill

so yes, they are just trying to cheat you so that you over used. luckily i back off and stop using it. end of the month i see i use up 450mb++, almost over 500mb, and luckily, i din't.

so, just be cautious when using it. dont use it like nobody business. this type of thing complain complain also no use one, they already wanted to cheat you, so of course they will stand firm

if they don't want to cheat you, they should let you know that you overused, or at least let you know when you asked, or check online. Or well, just automatically upgrade you to the next level of plan!
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This is Maxis!

They are supposed to tell us how much data we hv spent at least to those who purposely call them to check! Maybe they are too lazy to check for u. whistling.gif

I am sure they are able to tell as they printed my each n every data usage for me when i lodged a report at Maxis Centre TTDI yesterday(not police report though).

Mayb next time u guys can go to any maxis centre and ask for it. laugh.gif
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post Oct 3 2010, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(工藤新一 @ Oct 3 2010, 08:05 PM)
thx for all the information, i guess i better go for digi iphone 4 then...
i dun want expensive fee!!
rather coverage not that good~
i hav using maxis for 9 years, reli disapointed wit their service...
keep thinking of changed it, now its the time...

written a list of their bad service, but remove it at last, i guess its not a rite place to post tat~
better stick back to iphone...
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These bill shocks keep happening but seems like Maxis does not really care abt it.

Two weeks ago i convinced myself to sign a 2yrs contract with Maxis for the Iphone. I hv regretted, seriously. doh.gif

I will terminate the contract 5 mths later as soon as i hv recovered the prepayment of RM620.
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post Oct 4 2010, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(aneip @ Oct 4 2010, 01:18 AM)
That's is accumulated amount for a few month.

I don't think Maxis will able heard what we are saying.. Please do email SKMM and report all the problem. Suggest them to make it illegal for operator to auto change the rate without the user have control.

I give them a few suggestion, if you do email please also do so. My suggestion was

1. Once finish quota allocation auto disable data access. Consumer can use USSD/SMS to purchase another block just like prepaid broadband.

2. Charges for after quota allocation should reasonable. not 100 times more than bundled one.

I think you are can add others.
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SKMM = MCMC?

Ok, i will write about the same things to MCMC.
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post Oct 4 2010, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(triple02 @ Oct 4 2010, 04:49 PM)
Yes even with 3G set to ON if the Cellular DATA is set OFF =no data leakage whatsoever

hope that helps.
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Ya, just turn off the 'Mobile Data' whenever there is WIFI around or when u don need 3g.
I am using it this way now. smile.gif
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post Oct 5 2010, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(speedguy10 @ Oct 5 2010, 01:38 PM)
Will we receive anything if we have finish used up our data plan usage?
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R u referring to Maxis? U will get only ONE thing - BILL SHOCK!!!


Added on October 5, 2010, 1:56 pm
QUOTE(staticxtreme @ Oct 5 2010, 01:50 PM)
maxis sucks.
2 months in a row i using ivalue 1 my bill rm300 for both months.
and fyi i'm on WIFI ALL THE FRIGGIN TIME
JUST THAT I DIDN'T OFF MY CELLULAR DATA
AND I'M 5 MONTHS INTO MY 2 YEAR CONTRACT
FXXX MAXIS I'M GONNA BE DIGI FOREVER FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE CAUSE MAXIS SUX
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If i were u i will just pay the 100 admin fee and switch to Digi.
I am oso a Maxis user now and unfortunately i still have more than 23months to go! cry.gif
However, i will terminate the Maxis as soon as i hv recovered my prepayment in 5mths!


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post Oct 5 2010, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(staticxtreme @ Oct 5 2010, 02:08 PM)
no penalty meh if i cancel my contract..
i have like 16 months to go bro in my iValue contract
sh*t man.. i'm damn pissed at maxis
they seriously messed up bigtime this time around
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U may check back the contract given by Maxis. U can see the formula there.
I rather pay 100-200 penalty and terminate the contract instead of keep paying a few hundreds per month!
Btw, i will be sending a Complaint to MCMC regarding to Maxis' overcharged issues.
Pls send a complaint too if u think u need to. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 5 2010, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(aneip @ Oct 5 2010, 02:57 PM)
I got another analogy if any of your guy wanna complain to MCMC.

Selling petrol at RM2/liter for 10 liter. No meter provided. You needs to fill in urself, there will be a beep when you fill-up 9 liter. For every 0.001 liter extra you will be charged for RM5.. Something like that..

My complain to MCMC got respond from Maxis. But the just said wanna forward the 'feedback' to business team. I will keep push to MCMC what Maxis do is unfair to consumer if not illegal.
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QUOTE(tony9973 @ Oct 5 2010, 03:29 PM)
Yes! we should all start a signature campaign and forward it to MCMC and see what Maxis have to say... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(JasonSky @ Oct 5 2010, 05:08 PM)
On Maxis Broadband you can login to your account and check your current data usage.

I do not understand why can't Maxis apply the same thing to our Data plans  mad.gif

It's like they are just taking advantage of the situation by barring the line and making users pay to un-bar. Only when your bill arrives you will know your data usage.
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Let us all make complaints to MCMC about Maxis unfair mobile usage charge!
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post Oct 7 2010, 03:58 PM

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Maxis has promised to call me back within 3 working days after their findings but i have not receive any call yet from them!

They have been pampered by the Papa that is how their attitude now!
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:48 AM

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Can we gather and make a police report about Maxis' fraudulent & unfair charges?
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post Oct 8 2010, 12:48 PM

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Now my case is:

Maxis charged me 4 days (24-27/09/10) of data usage since the day i signed up ivalue2 (24/09/10) but they gave me 2 days of rebate only. WTF! mad.gif
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post Oct 8 2010, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(clayclws @ Oct 8 2010, 01:25 PM)
I've mentioned this before but no one paid attention. Actually, a lot of people mentioned it. All my friends experienced it. We all changed to DiGi. No problems thus far..except lousy coverage. My prior experience with Maxis before I switched to DiGi in 2008 are as below:

1. Maxis charge even though you use WiFi and did not turn of cellular data. That time, there is no way to turn off cellular data easily like changing APN or Switching on/off button on iOS 4.x. You have to download a crack operator system to unlock APN. Seems like this is still happening.

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I agree on this! I think as long as the mobile data is turned on, Maxis will start counting the mobile data usage. They don care whether u r using WIFI or 3g. shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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post Oct 8 2010, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Oct 8 2010, 05:51 PM)
Wait, the data counter in the Iphone is not the same as my actual usage with Maxis now?? I've only used about 10.3 MB of data since I use wifi whenever possible, surely it's not more than that?? Can I call CS and check what my current usage is??
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My iphone shows total mobile usage as at 2/10/10 was 352mb but Maxis billed me 363mb up to 27th Sept 2010! shocking.gif
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post Oct 8 2010, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Oct 8 2010, 07:19 PM)
Not that much diff then.i was planning to put a buffer of about 20 mb or so to be safe.
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Hv u looked properly at the DATE i mentioned?
24-27th Sept 2010 (4 days) - Maxis charged me 363mb
24th Sept to 2nd Oct 2010 (8-9 days) - My phone shows only 352mb used!
U think 20mb is safe?

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post Oct 8 2010, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(crixalisrox @ Oct 8 2010, 07:31 PM)
Turn off ur " Cellular Data " too ...
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"Mobile Data" to be exact. laugh.gif
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post Oct 11 2010, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Oct 11 2010, 05:53 PM)
@ [V]agrant the explanation is wrong. the bill is not divided RM50 or anything like that.
your RM100 (iValue1) means your first 1GB data, your first 333min phone calls, your first 200 SMS & your first 20 MMS are all paid for already.
when you use more than this, you will be billed the according amount.
unbilled amount means you've used this amount (maybe 15 minutes or 50 MB) and the Maxis billing system hasn't calculated it against whatever you've signed contract / plan or whatever.

tl;dr version : just use autobilling.
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Yes, u r right.

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