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 iPhone Data Usage Issues (Maxis, Celcom, DIGI), Usage & Bill diff - High bill charges!

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post Sep 25 2010, 01:50 PM

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I also got msg saying my bill amount is RM250 for 1 day old Iphone.. I'm on iValue1 and this is new line.

I think Maxis mess up billing system by not including 1Gb free data in new Iphone4 plan. That's the only way my bill can be up to RM 250. My call is about 13minutes. My celular data is 80MB (upload + download). This is just 1 day only and I mostly on wifi except when I go to dinner last nite.

I will be written to SKMS for unfair plan provided by Maxis. What I mean by unfair is, there give you 1Gb of data but don't allow you to know how much you using now. Will suggesting for then to either

1 - After 1Gb, direct disable data access (as per prepaid broadband) and give a user option to topup for usage. Use SMS to buy another 1Gb or whatever.

2 - Provide up to date (or at least 1 day before), accumulated data usage either by calling their CS or through maxis website.

I don't mind how they do their plan but their needs to provide fair info for a consumer.
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post Sep 25 2010, 07:03 PM

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The billing also affected new line.. Mine is newly registered line.
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(jaMneSs @ Sep 26 2010, 07:48 PM)
Its the cellular data that keep on connecting to maxis hence charging. However this does not show in the data calculator. I stopped mine, and the charging stop. Still got 130+ bill from 1 day online with 10 mb usage
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I agreed it's coz of cellular data but not because your finished ur 1GB allocation without clocked on data calculator. I believe they mess up their billing configuration of iValue plan when there change 500MB allocation to 1Gb for ivalue 1.

The different between Iphone counter and maxis billing should be minimum.. I heard 1 of the user said he only be careful the the last 50MB.. meaning can use till 950MB then stop.

But please note for the 1st month, your bill will be prorated, the allocation will also be prorated. I asked mine, billing date is 7th of the month.. So 1st bill, I will keep my usage below 40% of allocated usage for all call, sms and data.


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post Sep 27 2010, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(bcwee01 @ Sep 27 2010, 08:08 AM)
I have the same issues, previously i am on blackberry unlimited of RM120 per month, converted to iphone on 24th 9pm, got a message on 26th sept 9 am saying i have exceeded my 3GB allocations. WTF!!! 2 days usage already exceed how to continue to use? Most of the time i use wifi, only on are occasion i use their 3g networks. Checking on the usage in the i phone, download data is only 19mb, sent data is only 1.8 mb.

I've call customer service, they said based on the msg i received it should means u have exceeded and they can't see my details until the month end billing which is 28th. Frustrated i drove to Maxis KLCC, waited another hour in the queue and got the same answer. they say the new plan is prorated, which is fine. but based on my allocation, if i have 3GB , then it should be 3000mb/30days=100mb per day. So if i have activated on the 24th, i should have 5 days on the new plans, meaning at least 500mb. They said they will lock down the notes and ask me to call again when received statements on the overcharges....

Well i am continue to use my data plan, if they were to overcharge me, i am definitely going to complaint to consumer complaint ....................
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Don't wait bro.. Just complain to SKMM.. I already did. It unfair for user. They make a plan like that. But don't provide a way for a user to check their usage.. Even call to CS cannot get how much u use.
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post Sep 27 2010, 11:07 AM

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Guys, one again please do ask your billing date. Remember 1st bill will be prorated, so does your allocation.. You will not get full 1Gb for 1st month.. unless ur billing date is exactly the day you register.
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post Sep 27 2010, 02:05 PM

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How you guys check for current unbill amount?
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post Sep 27 2010, 11:28 PM

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My unbill amount already corrected. From 250+ to rm2. Just sound more logical for a few SMS.
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post Sep 28 2010, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(812799 @ Sep 28 2010, 05:45 PM)
Just got my Iphone 4 yesterday and started using it last night as well ,
Was on Digi iplan88 which was only activated this morning around 9am++

So to cut short i shall snap a picture for easier understanding
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Check digi OCS (online customer service). You can see how much data usage there.
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post Oct 3 2010, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(valentinonkk @ Oct 2 2010, 07:26 PM)
Dear All,

I would like to share my case here.  smile.gif

I am facing the same problem now with MAXIS!!!  vmad.gif

Ok. I try to make it short.  hmm.gif

I got my iphone4 on the 24th Sept 10 and my bill captured until 27th Sept 10.

Maxis charged me usage of 363mb (which is equivalent to RM18++ in the bill (from 24-27th Sept 10) but my iphone shows total data usage of 353mb as at today, 2 Oct 2010.

I went to Maxis Center TTDI and i was poorly served by a fellow called AzXXXX.
He cant explain why my phone shows only 353mb but they charged me 363mb and mentioned sth funny:

1) Although i hv a 2gb/mth data plan (ivalue2), it doesnt mean that i have approx. 66mb/day (2,000,000mb/30day)! WTF!  shakehead.gif

2) He said for Ivalue2, Maxis is actually charging me abt RM50/mth for the 2gb/mth data plan only, so i m not entitled to 66mb/day! So i told him it is Maxis' problem rather than my problem whether Maxis charged me RM15 or RM50 or RM1 for the 2gb/mth data plan, as long as i signed the 2gb/mth plan, i shld b entitled for the 2gb/mth or approx 66mb/day! He laughed at me and asked: WHY THIS IS MAXIS PROBLEM??  sweat.gif

3) I told him i surfed net via wifi in my house most of the time, so the data usage shldnt be so high. He said that WIFI usually is not stable and when it happens, 3g data will be used. (of cos i know whether the phone is connected to wifi or 3g bcoz u can easily see it at the screen!!!!)
The CS was really bad and lousy! When i asked for his name, he did not even look at me and tell me his name. He just point me to his name tag and look at somewhere else.  mad.gif 

I was pissed off and headed straight to The Garden Maxis Centre.

I noticed that when Maxis overcharged, they will usually:
1) At first, insist that u hv over-used and make u think twice on the complaint.
2) When they know they couldnt changed ur mind, they will offer to waive 50% of the usage for u. They will then tell u that even if u want to lodge it as a case (which they will giv u a case no.), u MAY not even get a single cent rebate.
However, I insisted to lodge a complaint.

If this case cant be resolved happily, i am ready to pay for the penalty and go straight to Digi Centre!

I have warned all my frens who are getting the Data Plan from Maxis. I hope u guys take extra precaution especially on the 1st month of your data usage! Pls also be reminded that the 1st month of ur data usage will not come after 1 month, it depends on ur Billing Date. It may come right after 1 week!

I wonder if my phone connected to WIFI but with the Mobile Data switched ON, will i be charged for the 3g mobile data too althoght the screen shows connected to WIFI????  hmm.gif

I have been a MAXIS customer for more than 5years! I think it is the right time to make a change, for me!  laugh.gif

Sorry for long story!
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Please do email MCMC and CMC forum.. Even I still waiting for 1st bill I already emailing than and raise a issues of unfair practice of Maxis.

What's really unfair for us is

1) you can't check how much you already use the data. This information suppose to be available to consumer when consumer ask for. Do you know it's wrong for a seller to sell a product without a price tag? This is even worse.

2) The charges for the over quota is really outrageous. If they can give you 1Gb for let's said RM 50 for ivalue 1 (RM50 goes to call + sms). It's about RM 0.0005 /10KB. How come they can charge 100 times (100000%) or 0.05/10KB for over the quota. That's really CUT THROAT.

No body ever got mad when there are over their bundle minutes right? Because the rate is about 10-30% higher compare to bundle minutes.

As for you issue, you did suppose to get 66MB/dayx4 days = 265MB. This is another problem with pro-rate. I believe if you ever make a scene they will waive it. The problem is, you will never know upfront how much you can use for the 1st Bill. of course you will be using a lot's for a few days coz of app installation, trying out, friend trying out and so on. Thinking you got 2GB of data. BUT you are not. Unless the give specifically your billing date + how much you can you then it's different story. They never mention about this pro-rate things. Unless you working in billing stuff you will never know this.

If the government can see the reasoning for 1 sen round up/down (1 to 2 sen extra = consumer gain, 3 - 4 sen = merchant gain). They should see about this pro rate allocation. They should be something like this

Billing within 1-14 days after register = 1 month no bill, brought to 2nd Bill. So you will paid 1.5x more in 2nd bill but you get your 1.5x allocation (still pro rate la).


Billing within 15-30 = like current practice. Pro-rate the 1st bill.


BTW still waiting for my 1st Bill.. Hopefully no ISHOCK.









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post Oct 3 2010, 05:47 PM

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you can email your report here

aduanskmm@cmc.gov.my

Please do provide iphone screenshot (data usage) + do mention about maxis don't provide a way for consumer to know their current usage + unfair billing pro-rate for 1st month.


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post Oct 3 2010, 10:17 PM

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malcolm do you monitor the usage on the iphone counter?
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QUOTE(lucklyghost @ Oct 4 2010, 12:19 AM)
sent 103mb + received 349 MB = 462.47MB , i think u should sign up is 500mb plan
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That's is accumulated amount for a few month.

I don't think Maxis will able heard what we are saying.. Please do email SKMM and report all the problem. Suggest them to make it illegal for operator to auto change the rate without the user have control.

I give them a few suggestion, if you do email please also do so. My suggestion was

1. Once finish quota allocation auto disable data access. Consumer can use USSD/SMS to purchase another block just like prepaid broadband.

2. Charges for after quota allocation should reasonable. not 100 times more than bundled one.

I think you are can add others.





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post Oct 5 2010, 02:57 PM

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I got another analogy if any of your guy wanna complain to MCMC.

Selling petrol at RM2/liter for 10 liter. No meter provided. You needs to fill in urself, there will be a beep when you fill-up 9 liter. For every 0.001 liter extra you will be charged for RM5.. Something like that..

My complain to MCMC got respond from Maxis. But the just said wanna forward the 'feedback' to business team. I will keep push to MCMC what Maxis do is unfair to consumer if not illegal.


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QUOTE(JasonSky @ Oct 5 2010, 05:08 PM)
On Maxis Broadband you can login to your account and check your current data usage.

I do not understand why can't Maxis apply the same thing to our Data plans  mad.gif

It's like they are just taking advantage of the situation by barring the line and making users pay to un-bar. Only when your bill arrives you will know your data usage.
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Is this updated hourly or daily or only for last bill?

Please confirm and if can provide the screen shot. I wanna forward it to MCMC.
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Oct 8 2010, 02:36 PM)
to make it simple...
10kb = RM0.05
1mb = 1024kb/10kb x rm0.05 =rm5.12 just for 1mb data
if you over 300mb data = 300 x RM5.12 = RM1536....
if they not limit u @ RM250 ..u die more fast...
u wan anywhere also run msn ..even on road ....
24hour update ur fb ...this is what u have to pay ..unless u switch to unlimited lol..
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The problem is more to the unfair practice of Maxis. It's simple to make a calculation but how do you make 1 without an input?

Do you dare to fill up the petrol with your eye closed and if you over what you pay for than you will be charged 100 times than original price.

Maxis should provide a tools for user to keep track data usage. Digi did this even there don't charges for additional usage.

OR Maxis should stop the data access after finish the bundled quota unless user wanna continue (request trough SMS or USSD). But I don't think they will allow this..

As for me, if I ever got the bill shock I will report to Mahkamah Pengguna and ask them to cancel my contract with Maxis (because of the unfair practice) and I gladly paid back the original RRP price of the phone and move to DIGI or Celcom or even UMobile.

This post has been edited by aneip: Oct 8 2010, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Oct 8 2010, 03:36 PM)
@aneip
no, you as a customer should stop using Maxis. it was in your contract. why did you sign it? I've known about this practice since March last year, when Maxis first introduced iPhone 3G.
I advised *all* my customers to either use data sparingly, or sign up an 3GB plan.

YOU are the one with the problem, you can't afford Maxis' rates. change your usage or change provider. don't expect Maxis to change, cos they got at least 10 customers who pay gladly, compared to 1 cheap fella who wants data n dun want to pay and signs contract blindly.
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I signup because I'M OK with the rate. Show me in the contract or advertisement that said user WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FIND OUT their current usage.

That's why I said it's unfair practice.

You have known about this practice BUT NOT ME.

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post Oct 8 2010, 04:06 PM

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All other carrier don't charge their customer for over quota except for pay per use.

Even Maxis don't charge extra for their broadband package. The only package they did is smartphone plan.
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post Nov 7 2010, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(noobie123 @ Nov 7 2010, 08:55 PM)
There is a line written "max charge @RM250/mth"...does it means maxis will only charge you RM250/month max others will deduct out?
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yup.. maximun charges for data is RM250 per month.


Added on November 7, 2010, 11:23 pm
QUOTE(noobie123 @ Nov 7 2010, 08:55 PM)
There is a line written "max charge @RM250/mth"...does it means maxis will only charge you RM250/month max others will deduct out?
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yup.. maximun charges for data is RM250 per month.

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