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TSyewjin
post May 21 2009, 11:45 AM, updated 16y ago

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I have been using the iValue plan 100 (500 MB data plan) and iValue plan 155 (1GB data plan - got two plans under me) for the last 2 months.

First month bill not a problem. However on the second month when I received the bill I got a shock of my life that they charge me RM250 extra for my iValue Plan 100.

You see, we have been very careful when it comes to using our datas - to not exceed them always checking on the settings > general > usage on the iPhone.

My last month usage for the plans were 420 MB (for iValue 100) and 320 MB (for iValue 155) - from checking the iPhone usage BUT when the bill came - my iValue 100 was 580 MB however my iValue 155 was correct at 320 MB.
I have to pay an additional RM250 for the 80MB!

My question is that if there was a variance between the iPhone usage indicator and Maxis billing, it should be +/- maybe 50 MB but the variance is a whopping 160MB!!!

I complained to Maxis and one of the staff couldn't understand what I was talking about and just say that it was cheap already. Wah, damn irritating man when talking to her - seems like it was the time of the month. Slammed the phone down and called another staff - This one wrote in a complain for me.

Have anyone of you face this problems as well? Is there a big difference from your iPhone usage indicator compared to your bill? Feedback appreciated.

This post has been edited by yewjin: May 22 2009, 10:22 AM
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post May 21 2009, 11:49 AM

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how you track you data????
i think you have the same problem with the guy...
Please refer to the page

scary la... duno wan to buy or not now...
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post May 21 2009, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ May 21 2009, 11:49 AM)
how you track you data????
i think you have the same problem with the guy...
Please refer to the page

scary la... duno wan to buy or not now...
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iPhone has a setting where you could track your data usage. The variance between maxis bill and the usage on the iPhone is a whopping 160MB!!!
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post May 21 2009, 11:56 AM

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the 500mb data plan includes both download and upload... so gotta make it clear... the 420mb u used on iValue 100 is purely downloading or including uploading?
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ May 21 2009, 11:52 AM)
hmm i use iphone usage to check how much data i used..my data plan only 250mb but i will use around 230mb every month n i got no extra usage charge of it..im not using maxis.
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Maxis is like turning our data taps without us knowing and asking to pay RM250! Some more say RM250 is cheap - damn the customer service lady - I hope her management hears our conversation on how dump she sounded.


Added on May 21, 2009, 11:59 am
QUOTE(stutzedward @ May 21 2009, 11:56 AM)
the 500mb data plan includes both download and upload... so gotta make it clear... the 420mb u used on iValue 100 is purely downloading or including uploading?
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It is inclusive of uploading as well. We have proof to show - The thing I am trying to stress is that 160MB difference is just unacceptable. If +/- 50MB then I understand... And if we really exceeded the usage and shown on the iPhone then no choice la... have to pay... BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE!

This post has been edited by yewjin: May 21 2009, 12:00 PM
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luckily i read this post.. i'm under the iValue 100 also.. din use much data though.. if normal surfing 1 month need around how much MB? no youtube, no downloading..
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upload and downloading...
how much is the uploading???
not much isn't it?
Iphone can track all???
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ May 21 2009, 12:02 PM)
upload and downloading...
how much is the uploading???
not much isn't it?
Iphone can track all???
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Yes iPhone can track all uploading and receiving of data under SETTING > GENERAL > USAGE


Added on May 21, 2009, 12:06 pm
QUOTE(jingyong @ May 21 2009, 12:01 PM)
luckily i read this post.. i'm under the iValue 100 also.. din use much data though.. if normal surfing 1 month need around how much MB? no youtube, no downloading..
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Depends really I use about 320 MB a month for games, internet surfing, youtube, push mail, fring and cydia

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u use safari only for data or other apps as well?? could it be some usage are not tracked in the iPhone?
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QUOTE(jingyong @ May 21 2009, 12:07 PM)
u use safari only for data or other apps as well?? could it be some usage are not tracked in the iPhone?
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I use quite a lot of apps actually. Any software or anyway to track the usage other than iPhone's tracking?

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post May 21 2009, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(jingyong @ May 21 2009, 12:01 PM)
luckily i read this post.. i'm under the iValue 100 also.. din use much data though.. if normal surfing 1 month need around how much MB? no youtube, no downloading..
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This is my 3rd month. On the first and second month I use, I dare not download much. I use it to only read email, read newspaper, read forums and see some articles. I only managed to clock 57mb of usage, wasted. Now, I am downloading pictures and files, sud be more.
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your apps contain ads?
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QUOTE(serioustee @ May 21 2009, 02:02 PM)
your apps contain ads?
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No ads... rclxub.gif


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No ads...  rclxub.gif
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Here is an interesting article on Optus and my related issue :


iPhone bill shock hits Optus
Suzanne Tindal, ZDNet.com.au
21 August 2008 05:27 PM
Tags: optus, iphone, mobile, vodafone, bill, data, plan, customer

Like Vodafone, Optus has started to receive complaints about iPhone billing problems relating to excess data charges.

Yesterday Vodafone revealed a number of customers had been hit with larger than expected bills after the carrier had not correctly transitioned them onto a new plan when they purchased an Apple iPhone.

Today one Optus customer told ZDNet.com.au that he had received a $693 bill with large data excess charges, despite the fact that he was on a $79 monthly iPhone plan with a 700MB allowance per month, of which he had used under 100MB.

The customer called the Optus call centre, where the operator tried to explain the extra charges away with pro-rata data limits. The theory was that because he had only been billed for part of the month he only had a portion of his 700MB allowance.

However, the bill covered around two thirds of the month, which meant that the under 100MB usage the customer had clocked up would have been within the allowed data usage.

After a second call, Optus discovered that he was still on his previous GPRS data plan, having not been correctly migrated, although the voice plan had been. His bill was reduced to just under $90.

However almost $130 was charged to his bank account when the time came to pay, which he has not yet sorted out. The customer speculated that with the bedlam on the day of signing up, human error could have caused him to have not been migrated to the correct data plan.

Optus declined to comment on how widespread the issue was.

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did you jailbreak your iPhone to enable VOIP services over the 3G network?
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did you jailbreak your iPhone to enable VOIP services over the 3G network?
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yes I did. Why?
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QUOTE(yewjin @ May 21 2009, 05:57 PM)
yes I did. Why?
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i suspect (mind you suspect) that your extra data comes from there.

VOIP services are never never never never never meant to work over the 3G network. hence by jailbreaking it, you are already bypassing the system and it is no surprise that your usage didn't cloak on the iPhone's counter.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ May 21 2009, 06:02 PM)
i suspect (mind you suspect) that your extra data comes from there.

VOIP services are never never never never never meant to work over the 3G network. hence by jailbreaking it, you are already bypassing the system and it is no surprise that your usage didn't cloak on the iPhone's counter.
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Thank you but like I mentioned in my first post I have 2 iPhones with both iValue plans from Maxis.

I used a lot of Skype using 3G with the iPhone that did not exceed the data plan. However the other iPhone which did exceed by 160MB rarely use any voip - however I noticed that we use alot of FRING on it. Could FRING have not clock in the datas used?
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QUOTE(yewjin @ May 21 2009, 06:09 PM)
Thank you but like I mentioned in my first post I have 2 iPhones with both iValue plans from Maxis.

I used a lot of Skype using 3G with the iPhone that did not exceed the data plan. However the other iPhone which did exceed by 160MB rarely use any voip - however I noticed that we use alot of FRING on it. Could FRING have not clock in the datas used?
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if you are using the VOIP service via fring, the consequences are the same.
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once maxis has determined a course of action, for your case, i highly recommend that you remove the term "scam" from this thread's title.

it is extremely misleading and doesn't hold any water to a certain extend.
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Actually you did use more data, so you pay more when you use more.
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post May 21 2009, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ May 21 2009, 06:14 PM)
if you are using the VOIP service via fring, the consequences are the same.
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Yes but your theory has not been proven. The data plan I used for skype over 3g proofs to be correct on my phone usage indicator and bill. Why the huge difference when it comes to fring which is used only for messaging and not voice.


Added on May 22, 2009, 1:56 am
QUOTE(nokia2003 @ May 21 2009, 10:08 PM)
once maxis has determined a course of action, for your case, i highly recommend that you remove the term "scam" from this thread's title.

it is extremely misleading and doesn't hold any water to a certain extend.
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Well it hasn't happened to you. Just imagine being billed for calls that you did not make. Or being billed rm250 more when your phone says you have not met your data plan. Imagine one day when you thought you have only used 100 mb but being billed for 2gb. Are you going to just keep quiet and pay and do nothing? Sorry I need to voice out some how else we would all be blindly surfing or making skype calls and at the end of the month slapped with a huge bill.

For now I am presuming that maxis has miscalculated on my usage because I have two maxis iPhones - almost the same data usage or type of application is being used. Apparently one does not match the bill received.

You are right it is improper to use the word scam but a particular cs lady in maxis just pissed me off. Will take it down once a friend of mine in maxis has investigated on this. But seriously this kind of events is happening all around. In the mean time I will leave it on to tell users to go below about 200mb of their monthly data plan just to be safe.

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This happened before and have been ongoing for quite a lot of people. I myself had been billed wrongly on data usage due to change of plans so I'm not surprised for something like your case to happen as well.

What you can do is, be consistent and keep calling up the maxis call centre (every 1-2 days?), keep track of the calls (time that you called and what you have told them) since there's recording going on during the conversation. Once they manage to escalate this to a supervisor/manager/whoeverthinksthattheyhavehigherauthority, they will search back the recording (yes every call are recording whether u like it or not) and get a better understanding on the issue. Do becareful with Maxis terms, when this case drags on for weeks and you pass the billing payment date, they MIGHT (<-- read pls) cut off ur line and saying that you didn't clear your bill (Clearly, Maxis internal team doesn't communicate to each other at all).

Seriously, I'm not bad mouthing Maxis nor i dislike Maxis (8 years with Maxis now and I'm happy with their services and products) but human errors plays a huge role in escalating and also getting problems fixed.

Just my 2 cents anyway, take it or leave it.

All the best to you TS.
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QUOTE(derlin @ May 22 2009, 06:27 AM)
This happened before and have been ongoing for quite a lot of people. I myself had been billed wrongly on data usage due to change of plans so I'm not surprised for something like your case to happen as well.

What you can do is, be consistent and keep calling up the maxis call centre (every 1-2 days?), keep track of the calls (time that you called and what you have told them) since there's recording going on during the conversation. Once they manage to escalate this to a supervisor/manager/whoeverthinksthattheyhavehigherauthority, they will search back the recording (yes every call are recording whether u like it or not) and get a better understanding on the issue. Do becareful with Maxis terms, when this case drags on for weeks and you pass the billing payment date, they MIGHT (<-- read pls) cut off ur line and saying that you didn't clear your bill (Clearly, Maxis internal team doesn't communicate to each other at all).

Seriously, I'm not bad mouthing Maxis nor i dislike Maxis (8 years with Maxis now and I'm happy with their services and products) but human errors plays a huge role in escalating and also getting problems fixed.

Just my 2 cents anyway, take it or leave it.

All the best to you TS.
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Finally someone who was in the same predicament as me. Thank you Derlin for the valued advise.
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after all of this thing.. make me want to take the idata plan.. sad.gif
shit happen.
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as i precaution, i used to ask frens to pay rm 8 for the 5mb plan
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TS, i believe the iPhone's data counter is not accurate. It was probably meant to track data movement in Safari, App Store and iTunes or any other default iPhone apps.

When you JB and use the 3rd party apps, there is a possibility that the data counter does not track the data use by those said apps.

Again..this is one possibility.
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QUOTE(poyol @ May 22 2009, 10:01 AM)
TS, i believe the iPhone's data counter is not accurate. It was probably meant to track data movement in Safari, App Store and iTunes or any other default iPhone apps.

When you JB and use the 3rd party apps, there is a possibility that the data counter does not track the data use by those said apps.

Again..this is one possibility.
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This could be true poyol but I need feedback from guys who have jailbreak their iPhones & use 3rd part apps - and whether their counter differs from their bills or is the same. It is the only way we would know if the iPhone data counter can be dependable to track usage - if not what is the variabce - 100MB / 200MB? Else we will all be very afraid to use surf / chat or even play games - afraid that we may exceed the data plan rate.

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yewjin: sorry I can't help you with that as I'm on the unlimited data plan. So I don't bother tracking the data usage anymore biggrin.gif If you are a heavy user you might want to consider going unlimited smile.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ May 22 2009, 09:54 AM)
as i precaution, i used to ask frens to pay rm 8 for the 5mb plan
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the 5MB on an iPhone is nothing. The iPhone can suck 5MB without you knowing in a couple of minutes.


Added on May 22, 2009, 10:21 am
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yewjin: sorry I can't help you with that as I'm on the unlimited data plan. So I don't bother tracking the data usage anymore biggrin.gif If you are a heavy user you might want to consider going unlimited smile.gif
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Yes the unlimited plan is the way to go... the RM250 paid - it could already pay for 2 1/2 months of unlimited Data with maxis. rclxub.gif

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i also sign for ivalue RM100..but not sure for the first bill how yet.
but i hate all the telco..i got 1 number is digi before,for the last bill GPRS charge me RM80++ ..but im using for tat time is SONY Z610i..how come i online for lanjixx phone?if let say i press wrong button also juc downloaded few kb only.i make compain to digi also cant wawe the GPRS ...then i change to maxis..

maxis more shix ! first month bill got problem oredi.i sub line to my gf,we got 40hours free call time.im get RM80 for me 50 gf 30 ..we seldom use it but the first bill come is RM180++.. feel to change SINGTEL ==...
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QUOTE(YY_0607 @ May 22 2009, 11:05 AM)
i also sign for ivalue RM100..but not sure for the first bill how yet.
but i hate all the telco..i got 1 number is digi before,for the last bill GPRS charge me RM80++ ..but im using for tat time is SONY Z610i..how come i online for lanjixx phone?if let say i press wrong button also juc downloaded few kb only.i make compain to digi also cant wawe the GPRS ...then i change to maxis..

maxis more shix ! first month bill got problem oredi.i sub line to my gf,we got 40hours free call time.im get RM80 for me 50 gf 30 ..we seldom use it but the first bill come is RM180++.. feel to change SINGTEL ==...
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hahaha... I have heard stories where people in singtel got a bill of SG15000 for data usage. So basically we have to be very careful when it comes to telcos. Got to know your rights and what we are allowed and not allowed. The maxis bill is pretty long and complicating journey to look into but it is best to scrutinies it.


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QUOTE(YY_0607 @ May 22 2009, 11:05 AM)
i also sign for ivalue RM100..but not sure for the first bill how yet.
but i hate all the telco..i got 1 number is digi before,for the last bill GPRS charge me RM80++ ..but im using for tat time is SONY Z610i..how come i online for lanjixx phone?if let say i press wrong button also juc downloaded few kb only.i make compain to digi also cant wawe the GPRS ...then i change to maxis..

maxis more shix ! first month bill got problem oredi.i sub line to my gf,we got 40hours free call time.im get RM80 for me 50 gf 30 ..we seldom use it but the first bill come is RM180++.. feel to change SINGTEL ==...
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you are wrong... you only get 20 hours free between you and your sub-line not 40 hours...
i got 3 lines family plan only get 60 hours... 20 hours free between us... A-B, B-C, C-A
i've been using Family plan not long after it launch...
do you ask properly... the 1st new line bill sure got charge for connection or something like that...
cheers...

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the thing is they dont have a proper tracking system for ivalue plan or 3g... i found out the USAGE is covered some of my download usage through WIFI as well. it went up from 1 to 2 GB in few hours
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QUOTE(poyol @ May 22 2009, 10:14 AM)
yewjin: sorry I can't help you with that as I'm on the unlimited data plan. So I don't bother tracking the data usage anymore biggrin.gif If you are a heavy user you might want to consider going unlimited smile.gif
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just wonder how much for d unlimited data plan? blink.gif
according to d new idata plan rm99 onli allocate 3gb sweat.gif
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QUOTE(derlin @ May 22 2009, 06:27 AM)
This happened before and have been ongoing for quite a lot of people. I myself had been billed wrongly on data usage due to change of plans so I'm not surprised for something like your case to happen as well.

What you can do is, be consistent and keep calling up the maxis call centre (every 1-2 days?), keep track of the calls (time that you called and what you have told them) since there's recording going on during the conversation. Once they manage to escalate this to a supervisor/manager/whoeverthinksthattheyhavehigherauthority, they will search back the recording (yes every call are recording whether u like it or not) and get a better understanding on the issue. Do becareful with Maxis terms, when this case drags on for weeks and you pass the billing payment date, they MIGHT (<-- read pls) cut off ur line and saying that you didn't clear your bill (Clearly, Maxis internal team doesn't communicate to each other at all).

Seriously, I'm not bad mouthing Maxis nor i dislike Maxis (8 years with Maxis now and I'm happy with their services and products) but human errors plays a huge role in escalating and also getting problems fixed.

Just my 2 cents anyway, take it or leave it.

All the best to you TS.
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I had almost the same experience as Derlin did.... but my case was the SMS subscription issues (like those 32332 numbers).
I never subscribed to any of those 3rd-party numbers' subscriptions, but I was billed several consecutive months of those SMS received.

Things just happened, and I had made a lots of calls to Cusotmer Service to ask for rebate of those money, as I never ever used it.
Months after months... those accumulated SMS money became nearly RM80, and my previous months money was never rebated at all.
After 1st or 2nd month of tracking my bills, I noticed that Maxis was never actually taken any action towards my complains. Therefore,
I recorded down all my calls log (what date, what time, who attended my call, what issue I reported etc.).

On my last call to Maxis Customer Service, I made another complain again towards my issues, and almost every month I received the
same feedback from their Customer Service, which was my rebate will be given back in the next month bill (which they never had previously).
At last... I could not stand them anymore, I just told them (kinda threathening) "either you rebate me on my next billing, otherwise I will terminate all my lines (I had total of 8 lines)".

So, the next time, FINALLY I got back all my rebates... After that, I terminated all my lines also due to my personal reasons.
That's my experience with Maxis. I believe such situation happens everywhere, any telcos due to their lack of communications within the dept. or company.

Cheers... Hope you will be more careful of your own usage, otherwise switch to UNLIMITED plan for safety whistling.gif

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At time like this.. I love my Digi EDGE.. slower but unlimited for RM66 only.
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This is well known make sure u turn off your data pushing in your iphone settings when u doesn't need it. The iPhone it self always push for latest app updates, emails and weather... so bare in mind, u never know how much it will use. Luckly i'm also on Digi unlimited plan =p. Loving it when using map! laugh.gif

i really hate Maxis.. simply charge customer with no reason.. asked them to show me the prove.. but can't able to produce then told me to see their manager if wanna rebate.. mad.gif

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Hi guys,esp Yewjin..

Yup,I am also on iValue 100 and I was hit pretty hard by the data charges.Here the story...
14/4 - Got the Iphone and signed up iValue 100.00 only
16/4 - Signed up unlimited data plan ( very lucky I signed up )

Was happily surfing till 14/5 when I cannot sms/call out. Called up 123 and was informed my line was barred as over usage. As I have yet to receive their statement,I ask them to fax over and got the biggest shocked of my life....which is on 15/4,their system shows I incurred 2,000.00 over MB on data service, from 5pm to 8 pm,same day.

I complained to Maxis Kota Bharu staff and show them my Iphone data usage from 14/4 to 14/5 was less than 450MB. That why luckily I signed up unlmited data on 2nd da otherwise god only knows my utter frustration.

Since they are the king,I just paid up to get my line unbar and complained again to 123. Also sms them their service rating as 1 (very horrible).
Till now it is still unresolved....

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QUOTE(NXaqua @ May 22 2009, 05:10 PM)
Hi guys,esp Yewjin..

Yup,I am also on iValue 100 and I was hit pretty hard by the data charges.Here the story...
14/4 - Got the Iphone and signed up iValue 100.00 only
16/4 - Signed up unlimited data plan ( very lucky I signed up )

Was happily surfing till 14/5 when I cannot sms/call out. Called up 123 and was informed my line was barred as over usage. As I have yet to receive their statement,I ask them to fax over and got the biggest shocked of my life....which is on 15/4,their system shows I incurred 2,000.00 over MB am on data service, from 5pm to 8 pm,same day.

But I complained and show to Maxis Kota Bharu staff my Iphone data usage from 14/4 to 14/5 was less than 450MB.

Since they are the king,I just paid up to get my line unbar and complained again to 123. Also sms them their service rating as 1 (very horrible).
Till now it is still unresolved....
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My guess is to call them every other day to ensure that they look into this issue.

Some of the MAXIS CS are really unhelpful. I keep dropping the call and calling 123 again if ever I noticed the CS executive seems blur or unfriendly but there are some who would really go all of their way to help you out. Keep trying NXaqua. We as customers have the right to dispute and not blindly pay what they bill us.


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QUOTE(kokocrun @ May 22 2009, 02:29 PM)
just wonder how much for d unlimited data plan?  blink.gif
according to d new idata plan rm99 onli allocate 3gb  sweat.gif
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yeah WTF? isn't the RM99 an unlimited plan? Now they are saying pay RM99 and get 3GB only. Frankly I know some applications on cydia can use up that 3GB in no time.

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from my years of using different network providers (both local and abroad), calling the respective customer service is only useful and effective to a certain extend.

i will give my own personal take in regards to this. if you are calling to make simple inquiries in regards to call plans, latest offers et cetera, calling them up is sufficient. having said that, anything more complicated and if it remains unresolved, it is best to head to the main (observe this term) branch.

in this case, yes you may see a lot of maxis branches, but they are not operated by maxis. they are merely agents with mandate handed out by maxis. hence, it makes more sense to go to the flagship store in klcc. patronise the store during office hours when a manager in charge is more likely to be present. only a personnel with authority has the level to escalate your concerns to the correct channel.

i'm not sure how maxis works, but major network providers around the world, typically subcontract their customer service to a (if not a few) company which specialises in providing these telephone supports. whilst this idea sounds fool proof as it benefits both parties economically, but it also poses some distinct flaws. since these customer service providers are third parties and not directly linked to the network, there are some issues which can prove to be sticky and complicated.

furthermore these consultants are usually part timers and being inexperienced, they can only convey to you what is stipulated on their userguide in front of them. no one can anticipate out of the ordinary, and therefore solutions to that problem may not be embedded in their userguide. of course a good trick (as mentioned above), is to call a few times until you encounter someone more experienced or more ethically responsible to find out or escalate the issue for you.

however when you are paid like crap, and expect to keep your cool with immature and inconsiderate customers yelling profanities at you the entire day, it is not difficult to put yourself in their shoes.

i know this fact for sure, because my ex girlfriend used to work for this so-called third party provider on behalf of vodafone uk. my current provider in australia is virgin (or optus) and their customer service is based in philippines FYI.
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QUOTE(kokocrun @ May 22 2009, 02:29 PM)
just wonder how much for d unlimited data plan?  blink.gif
according to d new idata plan rm99 onli allocate 3gb  sweat.gif
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i really really really have no idea on how you guys cannot ultilise 3GB on the iPhone. in a place like australia, where there is no such thing as unlimited internet bandwidth, i haven't seen anyone in the local forum complaining about insufficiency.

personally, i'm subscribed to the 320MB bundle (and my iPhone isn't jailbroken, hence i cannot do any VOIP or tethering) and i'm finding extreme difficulties to finish my allowance.

interestingly, i patronise forums (and even moderate one), read news, e-mails corresponding, IM chatting, download podcasts (thrice or more a week) on a daily basis without bursting my limit. not wanting to put this to waste (yes i'm chinese and hence the kiasu gene is embedded deep inside me), i refrain myself from using the university network as they charge me for using it (yes internet is indeed serious business here)

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Hi guys,

Last but not least about Maxis 3G service over in Kuala Terengganu or Kota Bharu, I can describe only 1 word : really suck as the line is like yoyo as they just came in last 1 year plus or so.

That why when I bought Blackberry Bold outright (means without plan)from Maxis,I signed the unlimited data with Celcom. At least their 3G line is stable though their service is pretty much the opposite.

Conclusion here : we can't have the best of both world...That is Malaysian for us...
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im using digi, i forgot to off edge and gprs, then suddenly they sent me a message telling me my gprs usage has reached tier 2, wth
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im using digi, i forgot to off edge and gprs, then suddenly they sent me a message telling me my gprs usage has reached tier 2, wth
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The Settings > General > Usage > Cellular Network Data in the iPhone is correct is it not?
I'm always worried about accidentally using the EDGE network.

P.S. aren't you a moderator?
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QUOTE(russ @ May 23 2009, 09:09 PM)
The Settings > General > Usage > Cellular Network Data in the iPhone is correct is it not?
I'm always worried about accidentally using the EDGE network.

P.S. aren't you a moderator?
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I think you might have gotten yourself confused with bryanyeo87

Anyhow , I do hope someone comes up with an application to kill data connection
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QUOTE(prasys @ May 23 2009, 09:20 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=62263

I think you might have gotten yourself confused with bryanyeo87

Anyhow , I do hope someone comes up with an application to kill data connection
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QUOTE(prasys @ May 23 2009, 09:20 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=62263

I think you might have gotten yourself confused with bryanyeo87

Anyhow , I do hope someone comes up with an application to kill data connection
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i cancelled my data calls....better before its too late ...spending too much already
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QUOTE(porkchop @ May 23 2009, 11:24 PM)
i cancelled my data calls....better before its too late ...spending too much already
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The Settings > General > Usage >

do we nid to manually reset this every month ?

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QUOTE(thaisxs @ May 24 2009, 02:39 PM)
The Settings > General > Usage >

do we nid to manually reset this every month ?
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I think we should. So we can keep track our usage amount. Bear in mind USAGE amount here is NOT INCLUDED WIFI usage. So it's good.

I also over use this month, so my bill is RM 418 !!! and my data charges is RM250 already. So really need to becareful coming month sad.gif
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QUOTE(petergoh @ May 24 2009, 03:07 PM)
I think we should. So we can keep track our usage amount.  Bear in mind USAGE amount here is NOT INCLUDED WIFI usage. So it's good.

I also over use this month, so my bill is RM 418 !!! and my data charges is RM250 already. So really need to becareful coming month  sad.gif
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Hi you sure it is NOT INCLUDED WIFI usage? Mine up to 8GB last month. I was shock as well, i connected to WIFI most of the time, at home, at office.

Fortunately, i just received this month phone bills from Maxis, it shows i only utilised 120MB only.
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Can anyone confirm with source that the data usage displayed on the iphone settings are all data usage used on the iPhone. Does it include wifi and does it monitor usage on all applications.. n not just the default iPhone apps. I'm not talking bout a JB phone.
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I got many problems with Maxis after Maxis officially released the iPhone in Malaysia. I didn't get mine from them and still, there's a few annoyance. After a while, I couldn't take their bullshit anymore, so I changed to DiGi. Been a smarter choice for me so far.
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QUOTE(vui_msia @ May 24 2009, 03:30 PM)
Hi you sure it is NOT INCLUDED WIFI usage? Mine up to 8GB last month. I was shock as well, i connected to WIFI most of the time, at home, at office.

Fortunately, i just received this month phone bills from Maxis, it shows i only utilised 120MB only.
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bro screenies of your usage screen to prove?
i'm abit skeptical on your statement smile.gif

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QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ May 24 2009, 06:27 PM)
bro screenies of your usage screen to prove?
i'm abit skeptical on your statement smile.gif
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good point, =Hanxz=. i missed that post completely blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

usage of 8GB on the iPhone (as much as the actual iPhone memory capacity)? aku tengok p0rn kat my iPhone hari hari pun x melebihi had aku.

to be able to surf that much, not only that i need to have such data bundle, but also a need to be glued to an electrical socket perpetually for juice.
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my data transmission for so long also belum lepas 1GB yet laugh.gif
let's just see whether he replies or not lo laugh.gif

and i hope its not photochopped images tongue.gif
and to the others contemplating about the usage meter of the iphone, AFAIK it records data that is transmitted via EDGE or 3G or GPRS

try streaming a youtube video via wifi and see whether it records the usage or not, a normal 3-4min video would make up about 10++ mb
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Bro, you can press *100# to check out how much youve spend what. Its already accurate there.
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QUOTE(ecVk @ May 24 2009, 06:45 PM)
Bro, you can press *100# to check out how much youve spend what. Its already accurate there.
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if i'm not mistaken (as been told by many customer service consultants), those records are typically 1-3 days late.

only those subscribed to prepaid services will obtain real time results (for very obvious reasons of course)
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ May 24 2009, 06:49 PM)
if i'm not mistaken (as been told by many customer service consultants), those records are typically 1-3 days late.

only those subscribed to prepaid services will obtain real time results (for very obvious reasons of course)
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Whaat? Noooo. Mine update everyday. If yours is slow. Then try calling 123.
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QUOTE(ecVk @ May 24 2009, 07:08 PM)
Whaat? Noooo. Mine update everyday. If yours is slow. Then try calling 123.
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of course it is "updated" everyday; as it is being purged from previous.

anyway i'm not with maxis at the moment now.
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Purged? what ya mean by purged? When i call 123 and ask them about my current usage amount it is the same as when i key in *100#.
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QUOTE(vui_msia @ May 24 2009, 03:30 PM)
Hi you sure it is NOT INCLUDED WIFI usage? Mine up to 8GB last month. I was shock as well, i connected to WIFI most of the time, at home, at office.

Fortunately, i just received this month phone bills from Maxis, it shows i only utilised 120MB only.
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It does not include WIFI..you can try it for yourself. Sometimes when your 3G and WIFI is turned off it utilizes the EDGE...so be careful ...
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Yeah, It doesn't include WIFI usage. That's why i over used last month DATA usage bcoz i also thought include WIFI usage. End up with this huge BILL !!!
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QUOTE(yewjin @ May 21 2009, 11:45 AM)
NEWS HIGHLIGHT

I have been using the iValue plan 100 (500 MB data plan) and iValue plan 155 (1GB data plan - got two plans under me) for the last 2 months.

First month bill not a problem. However on the second month when I received the bill I got a shock of my life that they charge me RM250 extra for my iValue Plan 100.

You see, we have been very careful when it comes to using our datas - to not exceed them always checking on the settings > general > usage on the iPhone.

My last month usage for the plans were 420 MB (for iValue 100) and 320 MB (for iValue 155) - from checking the iPhone usage BUT when the bill came - my iValue 100 was 580 MB however my iValue 155 was correct at 320 MB.
I have to pay an additional RM250 for the 80MB!

My question is that if there was a variance between the iPhone usage indicator and Maxis billing, it should be +/- maybe 50 MB but the variance is a whopping 160MB!!!

I complained to Maxis and one of the staff couldn't understand what I was talking about and just say that it was cheap already. Wah, damn irritating man when talking to her - seems like it was the time of the month. Slammed the phone down and called another staff - This one wrote in a complain for me.

Have anyone of you face this problems as well? Is there a big difference from your iPhone usage indicator compared to your bill? Feedback appreciated.
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You're dead.

When it comes to pay per usage (for each KB above a particular cap of a package), Maxis can always overcharge you, and you can say nothing about it because you can't keep a tangible evidence of how much data EXACTLY that you have used.

Yes, if you allow Maxis to indicate your bills without your OWN supervision, you die.

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Attached Image
Before begin test

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After using 300MB+ via WIFI do DL Podcast and Safari

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After 30mins of playing CozyQuest via EDGE. WLAN turned Off.


So this more or less confirms that the usage shows over the air cellular data transfers and does not include WIFI.
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QUOTE(shumaky @ May 25 2009, 05:07 AM)
Attached Image
Before begin test

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After using 300MB+ via WIFI do DL Podcast and Safari

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After 30mins of playing CozyQuest via EDGE. WLAN turned Off.
So this more or less confirms that the usage shows over the air cellular data transfers and does not include WIFI.
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Yes, I can confirm that since day one. WIFI usage is not will not be 'counted' in that counter. Also, the OS is pretty smart to prioritize on WIFI whenever it is connected an access point and the WIFI symbol is displayed. By the way, there's a reason why the counter is called Cellular Data. So it must have meant to only count data uploaded/downloaded off the cellular net. WIFI is not cellular.
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I thought theres unlimited usage , where you just have to pay a certain amount a month
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I thought theres unlimited usage , where you  just have to pay a certain amount a month

99 a month which is what i'm paying, but none of the "reasonable" maxis iPhone plans had any option of unlimited usage.

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easy la... use the ivalue plan's sim card put in old version phone such as 3310 so that u wont use the 3G and use to make phone call and sms only.... thn use hotlink sim card put into the iphone so u can control the usage.... ^^
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how bout 3G/ Edge rate ah? i just use it for maps, routing,gps.. suddeny it sucks all my credit. is dat really expensive? one more question, does maxis hv unlimited usage?
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QUOTE(slingswish @ May 25 2009, 09:26 PM)
can't it be off?
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You can turn off 3G but not EDGE..unless its a jailbreak one, I guess

QUOTE(NoN@me @ May 28 2009, 08:26 AM)
easy la... use the ivalue plan's sim card put in old version phone such as 3310 so that u wont use the 3G and use to make phone call and sms only.... thn use hotlink sim card put into the iphone so u can control the usage.... ^^
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Have you tried it ??

QUOTE(saksoba @ May 28 2009, 11:06 AM)
how bout 3G/ Edge rate ah? i just use it for maps, routing,gps.. suddeny it sucks all my credit. is dat really expensive? one more question, does maxis hv unlimited usage?
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I don't think there's one with unlimited usage, they give u a limit and if you overuse u have to pay the extra

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QUOTE(russ @ May 28 2009, 03:58 PM)
You can turn off 3G but not EDGE..unless its a jailbreak one, I guess
Have you tried it ??
I don't think there's one with unlimited usage, they give u a limit and if you overuse u have to pay the extra
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there is a unlimited usage for rm99... u have to sign d ivalue plan top up with tis rm99 unlimited plan sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kokocrun @ May 28 2009, 04:03 PM)
there is a unlimited usage for rm99... u have to sign d ivalue plan top up with tis rm99 unlimited plan  sweat.gif
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They only give you 500 MB for that one. You have to pay the extra

http://www.maxis.com.my/personal/iphone/rateplan1.asp

Or do you mean the 3gb for iData plan?

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QUOTE(russ @ May 28 2009, 04:17 PM)
They only give you 500 MB for that one. You have to pay the extra

http://www.maxis.com.my/personal/iphone/rateplan1.asp

Or do you mean the 3gb for iData plan?
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nope not related to iphone.. idata plan onli locate 3gb
u look into d 3g package there is 1 unlimited plan tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kokocrun @ May 28 2009, 04:30 PM)
nope not related to iphone.. idata plan onli locate 3gb
u look into d 3g package there is 1 unlimited plan tongue.gif
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Agreed with kokocrun..I am on iValue 100 plus RM99 for Unlimited Data Plan. Yup,double check my bill and there is no other charges reflected for data...though I was hit by a whopping 2,000 MB data usage charge on the 2nd day...

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QUOTE(kokocrun @ May 28 2009, 04:30 PM)
nope not related to iphone.. idata plan onli locate 3gb
u look into d 3g package there is 1 unlimited plan tongue.gif
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QUOTE(NXaqua @ May 28 2009, 06:01 PM)
Agreed with kokocrun..I am on iValue 100 plus RM99 for Unlimited Data Plan. Yup,double check my bill and there is no other charges reflected for data...though I was hit by a whopping 2,000 MB data usage charge on the 2nd day...
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Yeah I can also confirm that network usage in iphone will only show cellular network usage.

I'm on ivalue2, with wifi@home 1GB is a lot&it seems almost impossible to finish
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Hi guys,

Just off the phone with Maxis CallCenter 10minutes ago in regards to my complaint on the excessive data usage (2K MB over 4 hours on the same day vs 460MB or so for the whole month,displayed under the Iphone's usage).

Their final respond : The data usage displayed under Iphone's usage needs to be reset daily in order to get accurate reading.But since I was not advised during the purchase of Iphone nor was it stated in the agreement,they have agreed to allow me 50% rebate in next month bill.End of my complaint.


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dear all

i would like to share my experience with you all, even though i am using celcom as my telco service provider, however it does reflect the same thing...

as steve jobs would define iphone as "internet communication device" when he first introduced the iphone years ago, iphone does heavily depends on internet. you can see clearly all the native apps such as wheather, maps, youtube etc, that will constantly try to connect to the internet where ever possible to update etc.

personally i also face the same experience after switching to iphone 3g after 2 and half year of SE w810i. the different reflects in my bill really crazy as i dont realize of using such a huge data, and at the end have to pay for almost rm200-300 just for data.

while im not so sure about maxis, but bear in mind, that iphone itself is a real data sucking device, so be wise when using it..
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I would like to share with everyone my experience.

I am subscribed to the iValue 2 at RM 155 a month.

My first bill was RM 250 which was fine, I may have used a little more talktime than usual but its ok. The second month was RM 400.. which was shocking, and so I thought that my data usage was a bit higher and therefore I cut down. My third month.. after paying the bills in full... I got a bill for RM 720.

I flipped and called Maxis. After 3 days and 4 calls.. they still cannot tell me where the problem is.

Today, I lost my cool and screamed at the customer care on the receiving line because after so many calls, I was assured to get a call back from them to explain what the issues are within 1 hour (which did not happen). I waited all night and frustrated from the promise from them, I made a call only to give them a mouthful.

I am sick and tired of the charges but especially the poor customer service.

Do anyone know how much it will cause to pay off the penalty to end the contract and switch to another operator?

This is unacceptable.

I know a lot of Maxis staff are in Low Yat as well, tracking these forums...

I will contact CMC, Consumer Forum and all the regulatory bodied to highlight this matter. The charges are exorbitant, customer care cannot even explain what happened.

MY ADVICE.... To those interested in getting an iphone... DO NOT get the package from MAXIS. Buy the singaporean or any unlock iphones out there and subscribe to the unlimited data plan. You will be better off. I know this because I did that before. I was using a foreign Iphone on Maxis unlimited data... NO ISSUES what soever... Issues only started when I am on the "OFFICIAL" iphone package.

It makes no economic sense at all...

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QUOTE(inganokusari @ Jun 1 2009, 12:29 AM)
I would like to share with everyone my experience.

I am subscribed to the iValue 2 at RM 155 a month.

My first bill was RM 250 which was fine, I may have used a little more talktime than usual but its ok. The second month was RM 400.. which was shocking, and so I thought that my data usage was a bit higher and therefore I cut down. My third month.. after paying the bills in full... I got a bill for RM 720.

I flipped and called Maxis. After 3 days and 4 calls.. they still cannot tell me where the problem is.

Today, I lost my cool and screamed at the customer care on the receiving line because after so many calls, I was assured to get a call back from them to explain what the issues are within 1 hour (which did not happen). I waited all night and frustrated from the promise from them, I made a call only to give them a mouthful.

I am sick and tired of the charges but especially the poor customer service.

Do anyone know how much it will cause to pay off the penalty to end the contract and switch to another operator?

This is unacceptable.

I know a lot of Maxis staff are in Low Yat as well, tracking these forums...

I will contact CMC, Consumer Forum and all the regulatory bodied to highlight this matter. The charges are exorbitant, customer care cannot even explain what happened.

MY ADVICE.... To those interested in getting an iphone... DO NOT get the package from MAXIS. Buy the singaporean or any unlock iphones out there and subscribe to the unlimited data plan. You will be better off. I know this because I did that before. I was using a foreign Iphone on Maxis unlimited data... NO ISSUES what soever... Issues only started when I am on the "OFFICIAL" iphone package.

It makes no economic sense at all...
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yes, thats why he say buy the SG iphone, and subscribe the unlimited data plan from maxis which only cost rm99 per month (or celcom one at rm68/98) per month

so in total, your bill wont get a crazy amount like rm720
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my is value 250...but my bills this two months is 400++.....before i buy i phone only 200++
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QUOTE(inganokusari @ Jun 1 2009, 12:29 AM)
I would like to share with everyone my experience.

I am subscribed to the iValue 2 at RM 155 a month.

My first bill was RM 250 which was fine, I may have used a little more talktime than usual but its ok. The second month was RM 400.. which was shocking, and so I thought that my data usage was a bit higher and therefore I cut down. My third month.. after paying the bills in full... I got a bill for RM 720.

I flipped and called Maxis. After 3 days and 4 calls.. they still cannot tell me where the problem is.

Today, I lost my cool and screamed at the customer care on the receiving line because after so many calls, I was assured to get a call back from them to explain what the issues are within 1 hour (which did not happen). I waited all night and frustrated from the promise from them, I made a call only to give them a mouthful.

I am sick and tired of the charges but especially the poor customer service.

Do anyone know how much it will cause to pay off the penalty to end the contract and switch to another operator?

This is unacceptable.

I know a lot of Maxis staff are in Low Yat as well, tracking these forums...

I will contact CMC, Consumer Forum and all the regulatory bodied to highlight this matter. The charges are exorbitant, customer care cannot even explain what happened.

MY ADVICE.... To those interested in getting an iphone... DO NOT get the package from MAXIS. Buy the singaporean or any unlock iphones out there and subscribe to the unlimited data plan. You will be better off. I know this because I did that before. I was using a foreign Iphone on Maxis unlimited data... NO ISSUES what soever... Issues only started when I am on the "OFFICIAL" iphone package.

It makes no economic sense at all...
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QUOTE(deric79k @ Jun 1 2009, 08:36 AM)
my is value 250...but my bills this two months is 400++.....before i buy i phone only 200++
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tats y i took da unlimited offer...
even though i noe i wun be using as much, but i knew i wudnt be charged excessively


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wow my bill rose from 200 previous month to 280 in half months time.
My usual phone usage was only RM80 per month.

I have never used 3g and got pissed when my internet usage is RM230.
I gave maxis a call today and guess what they told me ? Everytime i use wifi i will also be using 3g.

Can someone verify this ?

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QUOTE(lazarus7247 @ Jun 1 2009, 01:14 PM)
wow my bill rose from 200 previous month to 280 in half months time.
My usual phone usage was only RM80 per month.

I have never used 3g and got pissed when my internet usage is RM230.
I gave maxis a call today and guess what they told me ? Everytime i use wifi i will also be using 3g.

Can someone verify this ?
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if maxis said tat wifi wud be charged...they hv gone nuts...
if u dun use 3g, use bosspref or smting n off u 3g, edge,...shud help da pocket...")
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they told me as long as there was a connection to wifi, i would also be charged in 3g sleep.gif i told them to switch off my 3g etc already.
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QUOTE(lazarus7247 @ Jun 1 2009, 01:50 PM)
they told me as long as there was a connection to wifi, i would also be charged in 3g sleep.gif i told them to switch off my 3g etc already.
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that's plain nonsense.. how can wifi and 3G be lumped 2gether? totally different things! they dun know what they are talking about most of the time... to be 100% sure just do what harmeet suggested, use bosspref to disable EDGE or 3G. but the only thing is need to jailbreak... i'm using iphone 2G and using bosspref to disable EDGE, so far no problem, only use wifi, and the cellular usage meter doesn't go up also..only when i really need internet on the go i'll just enable EDGE again.
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QUOTE(Ndrew @ Jun 1 2009, 02:07 PM)
that's plain nonsense.. how can wifi and 3G be lumped 2gether? totally different things! they dun know what they are talking about most of the time... to be 100% sure just do what harmeet suggested, use bosspref to disable EDGE or 3G. but the only thing is need to jailbreak... i'm using iphone 2G and using bosspref to disable EDGE, so far no problem, only use wifi, and the cellular usage meter doesn't go up also..only when i really need internet on the go i'll just enable EDGE again.
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It seems that I am not the only one who is having this issue when I first started this thread.

Ever since I complained to Maxis with regards to the inconsistency of the data usage and billing me an additional RM250 - they said they will look into this matter and will call back but THEY HAVE NOT CALLED BACK!

Word of advise - Be cautious of your data usage. I may launch a complain with MCMC with regards to this.

AND I noticed that Maxis hires talk cocking CS people which dont understand the iValue Plan or about data usage - I must agree how can you lump wife and 3G data together? This is just ridiculous.


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QUOTE(inganokusari @ Jun 1 2009, 12:29 AM)
I would like to share with everyone my experience.

I am subscribed to the iValue 2 at RM 155 a month.

My first bill was RM 250 which was fine, I may have used a little more talktime than usual but its ok. The second month was RM 400.. which was shocking, and so I thought that my data usage was a bit higher and therefore I cut down. My third month.. after paying the bills in full... I got a bill for RM 720.
Do you mind breaking down what did Maxis charged for RM720... It is quite impossible that the bill came up that high.

Let's say you use RM155 package + RM30 for sms + RM50 for international calls (for example) = RM235.00 - and let's say you exceeded on your data usage so that is RM250.00 = Total bill should be RM585.00 or less. To be billed RM720, you calls & sms should be additional RM140 ++

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Added on June 1, 2009, 2:37 pm

Do you mind breaking down what did Maxis charged for RM720... It is quite impossible that the bill came up that high.

Let's say you use RM155 package + RM30 for sms + RM50 for international calls (for example) = RM235.00 - and let's say you exceeded on your data usage so that is RM250.00 = Total bill should be RM585.00 or less. To be billed RM720, you calls & sms should be additional RM140 ++
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That is a problem.. coz my earlier plan has itemized billing.. but under the iValue... they told me that the details are not available unless I request to subscribe to them.

They even had the cheek to tell me that they might not be even able to give me the breakdown to my bills..

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QUOTE(inganokusari @ Jun 1 2009, 02:58 PM)
That is a problem.. coz my earlier plan has itemized billing.. but under the iValue... they told me that the details are not available unless I request to subscribe to them.

They even had the cheek to tell me that they might not be even able to give me the breakdown to my bills..
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Thats Bull Shxx. Sue Them. Or send an invoice to their CEO, stating he/she need to pay to you RM7200.00.

Many service providers in Malaysia provides not so good quality service, and worse at all, is their billing department, which somehow "deliberately" bill the customer with wrong amount. The time and stresses spent dealing with their customer service should be measured and converted into cash and billed back at them.
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QUOTE(inganokusari @ Jun 1 2009, 02:58 PM)
That is a problem.. coz my earlier plan has itemized billing.. but under the iValue... they told me that the details are not available unless I request to subscribe to them.

They even had the cheek to tell me that they might not be even able to give me the breakdown to my bills..
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You need to get your bill itemised. By not getting them itemised it is like giving them the license to charge you anything! Please get it itemised. Call 123 now!


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You need to get your bill itemised. By not getting them itemised it is like giving them the license to charge you anything! Please get it itemised. Call 123 now!
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A lot of iValue users does not realise that the iValue plan does not include SMS usage, International calls, Roaming charges and toll free numbers. That means if you are subscribing to iValue 155 and your itemised bill is as below :

1. Usage - RM10.00
2. Toll free numbers - RM30 by calling stupid tm net
3. SMS - RM55
4. International calls - RM40
5. Roaming charges - RM30

What you will be paying is - RM155 (even though you use RM10) + RM30 + RM55 + RM40 + RM30 = RM310.00 is what you will be billed. AND if you exceed your 1GB data usage you will be paying additional RM250 - so it is RM560.00 not inclusive service tax and value added charges.

And just to let you know if you dont pay your bill on time, the refund on the deposit will be on hold till you pay your bills promptly.

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QUOTE(yewjin @ Jun 1 2009, 09:22 PM)
You need to get your bill itemised. By not getting them itemised it is like giving them the license to charge you anything! Please get it itemised. Call 123 now!


Added on June 1, 2009, 9:45 pm

A lot of iValue users does not realise that the iValue plan does not include SMS usage, International calls, Roaming charges and toll free numbers. That means if you are subscribing to iValue 155 and your itemised bill is as below :

1. Usage - RM10.00
2. Toll free numbers - RM30 by calling stupid tm net
3. SMS - RM55
4. International calls - RM40
5. Roaming charges - RM30

What you will be paying is - RM155 (even though you use RM10) + RM30 + RM55 + RM40 + RM30 = RM310.00 is what you will be billed. AND if you exceed your 1GB data usage you will be paying additional RM250 - so it is RM560.00 not inclusive service tax and value added charges.

And just to let you know if you dont pay your bill on time, the refund on the deposit will be on hold till you pay your bills promptly.
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perfectly explained break down bro...
tats da one fact ppl fail 2 understand...
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QUOTE(lazarus7247 @ Jun 1 2009, 01:14 PM)
wow my bill rose from 200 previous month to 280 in half months time.
My usual phone usage was only RM80 per month.

I have never used 3g and got pissed when my internet usage is RM230.
I gave maxis a call today and guess what they told me ? Everytime i use wifi i will also be using 3g.

Can someone verify this ?
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No, that is not true. We've shown here before that when you're on WIFI, the OS will not use 3G cellular data. As pointed out, they both cannot be lumped together. Also, the applications do not automatically download data unless you're using them. One reason could be because the 'Fetch New Data' is configured to 'Push'. Then the 'Fetch' section is not set to 'Manually'. Thats how the application could be mysteriously using your cellular data. Anyway I have yet to see these issues on my side.

Try monitoring your iPhones at the home screen topside where the telco logo is. Whenever data connection is used, there'll be a clockwise turning animation. That means, it is using data. What kind of connection? That depends if the WIFI logo or 3G logo is shown.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 1 2009, 10:18 PM)
No, that is not true. We've shown here before that when you're on WIFI, the OS will not use 3G cellular data. As pointed out, they both cannot be lumped together. Also, the applications do not automatically download data unless you're using them. One reason could be because the 'Fetch New Data' is configured to 'Push'. Then the 'Fetch' section is not set to 'Manually'. Thats how the application could be mysteriously using your cellular data. Anyway I have yet to see these issues on my side.

Try monitoring your iPhones at the home screen topside where the telco logo is. Whenever data connection is used, there'll be a clockwise turning animation. That means, it is using data. What kind of connection? That depends if the WIFI logo or 3G logo is shown.
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I think there is a confusion between wifi and 3G - which one will be clocked?

From where I see it, with both wifi and 3G turned on, if wifi signal is weak, 3G will step in. This is what I gathered from one of the staff but I could be wrong.
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I have 3G turned off. Am using WIFI but then sometimes EDGE steps in..and that is probably how you got charged.. I noticed when your phone automatically locks and you unlock it, EDGE will be used for a moment before the WIFI steps in..
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Should i just quietly pay my bills ? Or should i make a fuss about it ? Im thinking of changing my mobile service provider to digi as my friend who is using an iphone doesnt have any of this issues.
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I would and should make a fuss about it, just got myself an i3G 8GB. I bought the prepaid plan and I'm entitled for the free 500MB data for 12 months, however I still got charged even I just check the weather and the data is less than 1MB for the penny sake. Where is your word Maxis? doh.gif
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QUOTE(yewjin @ Jun 1 2009, 10:43 PM)
I think there is a confusion between wifi and 3G - which one will be clocked?

From where I see it, with both wifi and 3G turned on, if wifi signal is weak, 3G will step in. This is what I gathered from one of the staff but I could be wrong.
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Yeah in which case, the WIFI logo will be replaced with 3G/E logo.

QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jun 2 2009, 02:06 AM)
I would and should make a fuss about it, just got myself an i3G 8GB. I bought the prepaid plan and I'm entitled for the free 500MB data for 12 months, however I still got charged even I just check the weather and the data is less than 1MB for the penny sake. Where is your word Maxis? doh.gif
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Err... checking weather app would trigger it to update new information from the online servers. That would mean a cellular connection (if you're not on WIFI) and will incur charges even if its just 1kB you use. Maxis runs on 1MB block just like its voice minutes (30 secs per block).

But I think it is high time for Maxis to introduce 1 sec blocks like how other telcos are monitoring. I think Maxis is using this 'monitoring limitations' at its economical advantage.
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QUOTE(lazarus7247 @ Jun 2 2009, 01:36 AM)
Should i just quietly pay my bills ? Or should i make a fuss about it ? Im thinking of changing my mobile service provider to digi as my friend who is using an iphone doesnt have any of this issues.
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I always believed that the Value Plus plan that Maxis offers is a good plan. The iValue Plan was a get rich quick scheme for Maxis to gain more $$$$.

They must know that most users or at least 10% will exceed their Data plan and will be forced to pay the RM250.00 additional. Some will not utilise the free usage and on top of that have to pay additional for sms & international calls.

So in my opinion if you must take a maxis plan - take the Value plus plan + unlimited data or the idata of 3GB at RM99. I think hardly any of us has exceeded 3GB right? no?
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Agreed but the driving factor for many to go with iValue Plans was due to the 'special price iPhones'. Granted the usual Value Plus plans do entitle you to get some discounts but its not as much as using iValue. By the way, I agree how we hate SMS charged separately. What for? Also international calls are inaccurate, it should be international calls made when roaming (which is understandable). Dialing an international number from domestic locations will incur appropriate rates deducted on your iValue plan. Shouldn't be charged separately.

I don't actually understand why many would envisage themselves using so much data on an iPhone. Unless of course you guys are talking about tethering which isn't happening yet (officially). Maybe some of you likes video streaming but 1GB is aplenty! I would ride on 'pay for what is enough' approach. No point getting so much when you can't finish it even though its cheap, less of course it really make a difference kind of cheap.

Now individual usage is very subjective, no plans can cover every type of usage. Best would be to get something just enough and if you happen to exceed a bit, pay that extra. Whats the big deal? There's no enormous penalty for exceeding.


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Agreed but the driving factor for many to go with iValue Plans was due to the 'special price iPhones'. Granted the usual Value Plus plans do entitle you to get some discounts but its not as much as using iValue. By the way, I agree how we hate SMS charged separately. What for? Also international calls are inaccurate, it should be international calls made when roaming (which is understandable). Dialing an international number from domestic locations will incur appropriate rates deducted on your iValue plan. Shouldn't be charged separately.

I don't actually understand why many would envisage themselves using so much data on an iPhone. Unless of course you guys are talking about tethering which isn't happening yet (officially). Maybe some of you likes video streaming but 1GB is aplenty! I would ride on 'pay for what is enough' approach. No point getting so much when you can't finish it even though its cheap, less of course it really make a difference kind of cheap.

Now individual usage is very subjective, no plans can cover every type of usage. Best would be to get something just enough and if you happen to exceed a bit, pay that extra. Whats the big deal? There's no enormous penalty for exceeding.
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That's true but the horror stories of some who is in the ivalue 155 with 1GB data plan has exceeded 1GB usage is very scary. I am on that same plan and I have utilise only about 500MB+ while my other half is on the ivalue 100 did in fact exceeded her 500MB allotment which caused us to pay the extra RM250 (very painful) eventhough she was very careful not to exceed her given data plan but when the bill came we were surprised.

The scary part is not knowingly exceeding the data allotment but being charge more than what we have used. and there is no argument - losing battle if we fight with Maxis.
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QUOTE(yewjin @ Jun 2 2009, 02:55 PM)
That's true but the horror stories of some who is in the ivalue 155 with 1GB data plan has exceeded 1GB usage is very scary. I am on that same plan and I have utilise only about 500MB+ while my other half is on the ivalue 100 did in fact exceeded her 500MB allotment which caused us to pay the extra RM250 (very painful) eventhough she was very careful not to exceed her given data plan but when the bill came we were surprised.

The scary part is not knowingly exceeding the data allotment but being charge more than what we have used. and there is no argument - losing battle if we fight with Maxis.
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Hey, can you share with us exactly how much MB she exceeded from the pre-allocated 512MB data? Cause RM250 extra on top of the RM100 monthly sounds a lot.

By the way anyone can tell how much cents is charged per extra 1MB or 1kB?
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my case today very suck maxis.... celaka dan gampang

last month rm467++ my bill

so iam very carefull this month

and everyday check my bill using shorcut *100*7*2

till 14jun 2009 my bill out i need pay rm5++ more for jun bill

wht the f***

now already pay 1000++

ask maxis why my bill so expensive??

he said iam using data to much and total rm4k++ and after discount 3k++

just need pay rm250 ... (caps limit) + my voice bill and sms and mms

total may bill rm500++

after may bill out 14jun i ask maxis subscribe me to unlimited data service rm99 per month so my bill must rm155 (ivalue 2) + 99 total jun bill rm254 everymonth

and today my bill rm260+) include data and voice call after 4 days my may bill out... already pay him rm500++ and now need to pay again

wht the hell its it... so suck maxis... celaka dan haram...
he said my unlimited activated today, not last 3 days

so tht amount for my data usage rm250 around thi 4 days

celaka punya maxis... iam very not sastified for this situation

so suck


Added on June 18, 2009, 5:03 pmand maxis said iam already used 800,000 kb mean its it 8gb or 800mb

not so sure.. but maxis still suck my money like hell

i ask again where my ivalue plan gone... how about my 1gb free?? if caculate 1gb use if normal rate around rm500 for 1gb data service (0.5cent per kb)

i monitor from my iphone till now not more than 1gb ..

wht the hell ya maxis.... where i must to report ... waaaaaa

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I would and should make a fuss about it, just got myself an i3G 8GB. I bought the prepaid plan and I'm entitled for the free 500MB data for 12 months, however I still got charged even I just check the weather and the data is less than 1MB for the penny sake. Where is your word Maxis? doh.gif
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they can simply say you actually had used more than that... they have your data usage record... and there is nothing you can do to prove they are wrong... tongue.gif

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Not to be an ass, but now that I read up on all you guys' horror stories I'm so glad I bought a Singtel set and went Value 50 + 99 unlimited instead of the Maxis plans.

I did get a bit pissed off @ the first bill cos the first bill = RM 153.xx ... which exceeded my credit limit of RM 150.00 ... so Maxis immediately barred my phone on the billing date. Before the bill even reach my hands already phone barred, zzzz.
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QUOTE(NXaqua @ May 29 2009, 02:33 PM)
Hi guys,

Just off the phone with Maxis CallCenter 10minutes ago in regards to my complaint on the excessive data usage (2K MB over 4 hours on the same day vs 460MB or so for the whole month,displayed under the Iphone's usage).

Their final respond : The data usage displayed under Iphone's usage needs to be reset daily in order to get accurate reading.But since I was not advised during the purchase of Iphone nor was it stated in the agreement,they have agreed to allow me 50% rebate in next month bill.End of my complaint.
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Hi guys,

Just got my May statement and as promised they credited RM56.00 as goodwill on the data mix up ..

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jun 18 2009, 06:28 PM)
Not to be an ass, but now that I read up on all you guys' horror stories I'm so glad I bought a Singtel set and went Value 50 + 99 unlimited instead of the Maxis plans.

I did get a bit pissed off @ the first bill cos the first bill = RM 153.xx ... which exceeded my credit limit of RM 150.00 ... so Maxis immediately barred my phone on the billing date. Before the bill even reach my hands already phone barred, zzzz.
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lol... MAXIS really never improve one..

I was a Maxis 3G unlimited user too (after i get my iphone 3G in Aug '08).. and the same thing happened to me.
I chose the Value 50 + 99 unlimited plan, so, after adding the 5% service tax, the 1st month bill came out immediately exceed RM150 credit limit and they barred my phone.

I called to them immediately and scolded the operator "hard hard".. then only they increased my credit limit to RM200...

Anyway, I shifted to Celcom's Executive 20 plan + RM98 unlimited data plan in Dec '08 as it is cheaper to me.. rolleyes.gif
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they can simply say you actually had used more than that... they have your data usage record... and there is nothing you can do to prove they are wrong...  tongue.gif
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they have your data usage record <== I actually concern this before i sign up ivalue100, seems like we cant do much but just let Maxis sucks on us. I have been calling them and ask them how they keep track, or how can us (Users) check on data usage. They saying that they do not have a system for this, but they will know at the end of the month...

- Wondering what kind of system do they keep track? they dont know
- Can they system show the current usage? they cant
- how they come out with the final usage ACCURATELY if they cant even check the current usage? They silent for a sec and replied me, they dont know too..

at the end of the tele conversation, they told me, they will inform me once i reached my max limit.. which is HOW MUCH? i do not wish this happen on me , might end up with paying RM250 for data?

I think Maxis really needs to have a proper system on this....


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lol... MAXIS really never improve one..

I was a Maxis 3G unlimited user too (after i get my iphone 3G in Aug '08).. and the same thing happened to me.
I chose the Value 50 + 99 unlimited plan, so, after adding the 5% service tax, the 1st month bill came out immediately exceed RM150 credit limit and they barred my phone.

I called to them immediately and scolded the operator "hard hard".. then only they increased my credit limit to RM200...

Anyway, I shifted to Celcom's Executive 20 plan + RM98 unlimited data plan in Dec '08 as it is cheaper to me..  rolleyes.gif
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same.. it is annoying.. I am on ivalue100 + RM10 for additional SMS. AND, I paid deposit RM200 when signing for ivalue plan, then they offer credit limit RM150 blink.gif

EVERY MONTH END.. i received sms etc to say that exceed limit and going to bar my line and so on.. isn't it stupid.. hmm.gif

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I had almost the same experience as Derlin did.... but my case was the SMS subscription issues (like those 32332 numbers).
I never subscribed to any of those 3rd-party numbers' subscriptions, but I was billed several consecutive months of those SMS received.
Most probabily ur phone number is recyle number . blink.gif
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hey guys, why dont u all monitor your data usage at setting => general => usage

from there you are able to find out how much data been used for both sent and received. to be more accurate, reset the stats each month.

if maxis claimed that u use more than certain amount, you can argue with them base on the stats.
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QUOTE(c010 @ Jun 20 2009, 06:18 PM)
hey guys, why dont u all monitor your data usage at setting => general => usage

from there you are able to find out how much data been used for both sent and received. to be more accurate, reset the stats each month.

if maxis claimed that u use more than certain amount, you can argue with them base on the stats.
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it is your word against theirs. if that was indeed arguable, this thread wouldn't have expanded until 6 pages long.
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QUOTE(c010 @ Jun 20 2009, 06:18 PM)
hey guys, why dont u all monitor your data usage at setting => general => usage

from there you are able to find out how much data been used for both sent and received. to be more accurate, reset the stats each month.

if maxis claimed that u use more than certain amount, you can argue with them base on the stats.
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Yes, thats how I track my usage too and even though I do a lot of FB, chatting, etc, I don't really use up my entire allocated bandwidth. I've never been billed extra. Nokia! Hehehe, I agree with you too...
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Yes, thats how I track my usage too and even though I do a lot of FB, chatting, etc, I don't really use up my entire allocated bandwidth. I've never been billed extra. Nokia! Hehehe, I agree with you too...
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I think the best option will be ...don't get the maxis iphone offer.  Get the singtel set and use digi.....problem won't occur.
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Maxis don't have any such thing as stop usage if we reach the limit of our plan?
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I think the best option will be ...don't get the maxis iphone offer.  Get the singtel set and use digi.....problem won't occur.
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Er.. Ur 2 email accounts are on 'push' basis or on 'Fetch' (hourly) basis?!

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Wah lau...luckily i didnt go for any ivalue plan...Maxis is always like that even your phone stated how many KB u use..but they will say extra charges...etc....
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Maxis don't have any such thing as stop usage if we reach the limit of our plan?
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DO They care?? Afraid that's what they wanted... users exceed usage sad.gif

wondering, how hard to build a system for us to monitor and check real time on DATA usage?
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@vui_msia,
U might as well use the feature that's built-in with your phone. It may not be 100% accurate but it wouldn't be too inaccurate either.
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QUOTE(vui_msia @ Jun 22 2009, 10:47 AM)
DO They care?? Afraid that's what they wanted... users exceed usage  sad.gif

wondering, how hard to build a system for us to monitor and check real time on DATA usage?
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the system is already there (as seen in the prepaid category, where credit is being depleted in real time).

but as mentioned, which network provider will actually do that? just practice some self restrain and you will be alright (i know i did)
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@Brick1235,
The Maxis Unlimited Plan is really up to 3GB. Anything over it, U'll be charged on a pay per use usage up to a maximum of RM250!
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hi all...i'm really quite new to the whole iphone phenomenon...got interested only cos of the new 3GS...

i was havin a chat today with a customer, who's supposedly quite tech savy...i told him bout the 3GS and he told me bout a bug in the iphone. apparently, even if you're surfing with internet wi-fi and not on the 3G network, maxis will still clock all ur usage as 3G data usage, and hence, chargeable. it happens even if you've completely switched off 3G on the iphone. the only way to avoid that is to switch the phone to flight-mode.

may i ask if there's any truth in that? i've not read it anywhere. but in case i missed out, sorry if this has been posted earlier.

another question, is there any iphone user on Celcom Exec data plans? maxis one is actually a bit pricey...looking at my phone usage, its less than RM50 every month (without data) and i'm on iValue150...if i were to sign up for maxis data plan, means additional RM99 = RM250 commitment every month = alot of money!!!

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Yes, sometimes they will charge my prepaid balance when I use data even it's not exceeding the usage limits.
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if i call maxis n ask them 2 cancel all my data connections like EDGE, GPRS etc. will my international roaming be affected??...i only need the iphone 2 make n receive calls, SMS n wifi...cheers
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QUOTE(ckcspice @ Jun 23 2009, 09:12 PM)
if i call maxis n ask them 2 cancel all my data connections like EDGE, GPRS etc. will my international roaming be affected??...i only need the iphone 2 make n receive calls, SMS n wifi...cheers
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unlikely.

i'm only basing this on the fact that my previous blackberry pearl, is able to roam, but wasn't connected to the net.
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@vui_msia,
U might as well use the feature that's built-in with your phone.  It may not be 100% accurate but it wouldn't be too inaccurate either.
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Yup, I have been watching the built-in counter closely but my usage patterns are pathetic. I can't even use 100MB of data. I'm planning to be on IM for the entire working day just to use up. But text chat aren't using a lot data though. Hmmm...

QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 22 2009, 10:51 AM)
the system is already there (as seen in the prepaid category, where credit is being depleted in real time).

but as mentioned, which network provider will actually do that? just practice some self restrain and you will be alright (i know i did)
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I think Maxis is playing this 'disadvantage' to their own advantage. I mean if you can charge your customers 'inaccurately' due to your architecture limitations, why improve it? Lets continue play it to its advantage. Hehehe...

But I think Maxis for the very least should include some sort of indicator in their online customer service. That interface has been there since when? Ages! Anyway the iPhone's usage counter although not accurate shouldn't be inaccurate for more than 10%. Otherwise its not an indicator and why put it there in the first place. So I guess put in a buffer of 10%. Anything more, Maxis is crapshooting.

QUOTE(ckcspice @ Jun 23 2009, 09:12 PM)
if i call maxis n ask them 2 cancel all my data connections like EDGE, GPRS etc. will my international roaming be affected??...i only need the iphone 2 make n receive calls, SMS n wifi...cheers
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Hmm... have you tried disabling data roaming on iPhone or any smartphones for that matter. It works the same way. I was overseas 2 months back and I had that turned on and my recent bills recorded nothing from countries I visited. Although I tried deliberately using data but it wouldn't work. So I guess that setting works.
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@ davidmak

legally speaking, it is always good to have disclaimers you see (that is why networks stipulate that it may take up to 2 working days for any charges to appear on the bill)

it is dead on accurate and it turns out vice versa, you can buat a lot of kecoh!

besides, isn't great if the network continues to "mislead" you in an attempt to lure you to exceed your allowance? a great business strategy!

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@ davidmak

legally speaking, it is always good to have disclaimers you see (that is why networks stipulate that it may take up to 2 working days for any charges to appear on the bill)

it is dead on accurate and it turns out vice versa, you can buat a lot of kecoh!
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Yes understood the holes and the need for an escape clause. But I feel adding 10% buffer on that counter is very safe. Lets just say Maxis's system recorded a run-off of 30-50%, thats a whole lot of deviation. By best practices, standard deviations should not be more than 10% (mostly). Otherwise we have a case to complain about inconsistency in services and pressure Maxis or whoever the service provider to improve on.
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@vui_msia,
U might as well use the feature that's built-in with your phone.  It may not be 100% accurate but it wouldn't be too inaccurate either.
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Yeah, i am using that smile.gif it is useless.. not sure why, i do a lot synchronization and WIFI connection instead of 3g/edge, and the meter is so NOT accurate, i can easilyy up to 2-3GB and last month 9gb ..

but lucky thing is,, my maxis bills display utilization is 200MB only ( FYI, im on ivalue100 tongue.gif)
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Yeah, i am using that smile.gif it is useless.. not sure why, i do a lot synchronization and WIFI connection instead of 3g/edge, and the meter is so NOT accurate, i can easilyy up to 2-3GB and last month 9gb ..

but lucky thing is,, my maxis bills display utilization is 200MB only ( FYI, im on ivalue100 tongue.gif)
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Actually the counter will not count data transferred via WIFI and your USB cable (during synchro). The counter is specifically for cellular data and it is why it was named accordingly. But it would be strange if the counter counts data transferred via WIFI.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 23 2009, 09:14 PM)
unlikely.

i'm only basing this on the fact that my previous blackberry pearl, is able to roam, but wasn't connected to the net.
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a lot maxis customer service bashing here... haha. i guess im one of the lucky ones. so far all my calls to maxis was greeted with a friendly and helpful person. there's one i'd like to highlight. i dont own the iphone tho so this is pretty OOT, but juz wanna share with u guys (and back up maxis a bit tongue.gif).

i was not satisfied with my maxis broadband that i sent an email to them asking what should i do to terminate my plan. i think not more than 3 days after that, the customer service gave me a call. i was in class that time so i told her to call the next day. surprisingly, the same person actually DID call me up the next day indeed. the girl was kind enough to clearly tell me what to do to terminate the plan, and for that im very impressed.

at last i didnt terminate my plan. but that was mostly because i found out that celcom line was terrible at my area LOL. whoever was at the other end of that line, keep it up.

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 23 2009, 10:16 PM)
Actually the counter will not count data transferred via WIFI and your USB cable (during synchro). The counter is specifically for cellular data and it is why it was named accordingly. But it would be strange if the counter counts data transferred via WIFI.
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yeah, i know.. actually i dont think i used WIFI that much

it happened 2 month ago i do a lot DATA(Movies/songs/podcast etc) Transfer from Notebook to iPhone via USB, the usage show up to 10GB at month end.

Funny thing is the usage counter is not updated live. eg when i check the usage on the first day it shows 100MB, then after 2-3 days i check again and it shows 105MB, and i did a soft reset then it shows 3gb. (I can tell you my actual data usage is very low becuz i turned edge/3g off manually)

So for me, this is not accurate at all.. unless i dont do large multimedia files syncronisation

my usage display in iphone - April 9GB , Maxis bills shows 150MB , iPhone - May 3GB, maxis bill shows 250MB blink.gif duno how to keep track now, but i dont think i need to worry, cuz i know my usage will be around 200-300MB p/mth smile.gif
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@davidmak,
You're absolutely right - the damn "meter" on my phone tells me I haven't been using much too and I subscribed to the damn RM99 plan! However, it will definitely come in handy when I get to a place and need Internet Tethering biggrin.gif I foresee the usage to increase tremendously then.

In fact, to ensure my battery life is a little longer, I'm thinking of just disabling Wifi (doesn't look like I be utilising the entire "unlimited" plan anyways!).

@daryl.k,
I'd been using the iPhone for about 11 months now; during that time I've travelled to a couple of countries but haven't been charged a single cent on roaming charges because there's an option to switch OFF roaming.

As to when you're in town locally and wish to switch off 3G/EDGE charges, all U need to do is to disable APN and it'll stop data from streaming into your phone - thus far, no dispute on my Maxis bill.

There are several forummers here who are on Celcom and DiGi plans so yes the iPhone will work on those plans too. Please refer to pinned thread on iPhone for more information biggrin.gif

@vui_msia,
Since your monthly usage is less than 500MB why don't U just sign up for the 500MB plan and pay less instead of the RM99 plan? Or, are U NOT on the RM99 plan *grins*
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Lol.. that's sad.. juz recheck the current usage with the nearest maxis centre and ask for explaination.. my 2 cetns
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@tinkerbel

I am on Maxis iValue100 so i entitle to use 500MB per month. But i still need to use very very careful because there is no way we(Or maxis) can estimate / calculate our usage.

I just notice my usage is between 200-300MB based on my usage in previous 3 months, so from this month onwards, i can turn my 3g on without worrying that much smile.gif
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@vui_msia,
I never really uhm used my data services (3G) in the past (only on a pay per use and that was v rare too!) but since 3.0 I've decided to go with the RM99 Unlimited Plan (btw it's not unlimited but capped at 3GB)

I guess I will monitor my usage from next month onwards; come 1 Jul and see how it goes for the next few months before I decide if I should go with a 'cheaper' less 'flexible' plan but heheh I think if one uses the phone for Internet Tethering, it's wise to use the Unlimited Plan.
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Yeah, Totally agree. If you are into Tethering, just go ahead & apply for unlimited plan. Otherwise u might be suffering all the time just to avoid not to over your usage limit. It's a PAIN!! shakehead.gif
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@vui_msia,
I'm on the move quite a bit so the Internet Tethering will come in handy on those ocassions; then I will only worry about low battery levels *grins*

Also, I figured it's more worth it subscribing to this plan than getting the USB modem separately; at least this one I can abuse use it with my iPhone biggrin.gif

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haha, thats excatly what i had in mind too. I just subscribed streamyx last week .. after taken all these consideration like what you mentioned. I actually just move to KL not long ago. Wanted to have a wireless connection, cuz i may move out anytime. but there are a lot issues on that, i even tried Wimax 10Mbps, but found out it wasnt working cuz i staying at Condo 20th floor (It supports up to 5th flr, lol).... so give up.. and installed Streamyx instead

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@vui_msia,
Other than it's ridiculous speed and ocassional down time, I have nothing much to complain about re Streamyx; at least it works! tongue.gif

Thus far, I've used both Maxis & Celcom USB modem and I'll rate it about the same; unless ur in Sabah/Sarawak then Celcom is definitely handier biggrin.gif
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LOL, excatly! ... we really cant do much about that sad.gif at least there is no cutoff or line dropping... it just SLOW (as mentioned "offering based on BEST effort" <== their favorite)

yeah, i just went back to Sabah last week, with my iPhone 3G (Proud biggrin.gif ) because i only have a dialup there (Since hardly been there).. though of using Tethering . Guess what.. maxis has NO 3G available from maxis,, sad. There is only available by Celcom.. rclxub.gif

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same.. just 3 days rm50 gone.. i didnt use any internet on my 3g also.. suddenly receive sms says overusage. bosspref turn off edge/3g d.
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@vailance,
Are U sure APN has been disabled? If it's not disabled, the data will continue to stream; even if you think you're not online. And when U press an app that needs data, it'll just auto stream in for u.

I suspect U having disabled APN.

@vui_msia,
Act, I realised Maxis USB modem does tend to cut U off after some time sad.gif
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Internet Tethering connect without using edge or 3g.if i using wifi to connect have any charges?
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Internet Tethering connect without using edge or 3g.if i using wifi to connect have any charges?
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Should be no problem but if you have wi fi you dont need iPhone to serve as modem. Just connect your lappy to the wi fi unless your one is really old model without the wifi built in
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Should be no problem but if you have wi fi you dont need iPhone to serve as modem. Just connect your lappy to the wi fi unless your one is really old model without the wifi built in
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using iphone connect to wifi - open bluetooth - internet tehtering and conenect to internet.have any charges of data?


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@wee395,
Just make sure APN disabled otherwise there will still be charged. Also, as mentioned by al3p if U haf Wifi available, Y need to connect online via BT when U can just directly connect to Wifi on ur laptop?

I haven't tested the use of Internet Tethering over a long period of time but I'm quite sure it's high battery consumption.
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Internet Tethering connect without using edge or 3g.if i using wifi to connect have any charges?
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In your situation, I suggest you just buy a PCMIA or USB wIFIcard (b/g/n) for your PC instead.. IF you have access to WIFI, just connect directly, no point to use your expensive iPhone as a WIFI card, you dont need to worry other issues like battery life etc
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How do you disable APN on Iphone? new user here please be kind
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settings >general> cellular network > put some rubbish on the cellular data form then its disable d

otherwise sbsettings or boss prefs, personally sbsettings doesnt work for me currently, i gotta put some rubbish into my apn
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QUOTE(wee395 @ Jun 28 2009, 06:57 PM)
using iphone connect to wifi - open bluetooth - internet tehtering and conenect to internet.have any charges of data?
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Can that be done - Tether via WiFi?
I don't think so, unless you have made it successfully.
AFAIK, I tried over USB cable and it works beautifully on Mac, shouldn't have any problem with Bluetooth also I assume.


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@friends,
Just wanna confirm; U *can* Internet Tether via WiFi (I'm testing it out right now)
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hi all existing owner ...

just to check is it maxis iplan will sucks the data anytime or the users forgot to turn off the 3G ect ?
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@Ken,
Data will onli stream in when U open application that needs it; Safari, Stocks, YouTube, etc.
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Ic, means this thread is not that true lar ... biggrin.gif

then i can look forward to the 3G S already.
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@Ken,
It is true because sometimes U just aren't aware you're streaming data in until U get ur bill and then U get a shock! It's a pre-warning that's all biggrin.gif
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I have been using my iPhone 2G jb for more than 1 year, been testing it with Celcom Broadband, Maxis Broadband, and Digi Edge Broadband. 2 month before Maxis announcing iPhone Maxis, they somehow could make me access the Internet with me to set the APN. Now, I have been using BossPrefs to disable the EDGE, and ifconfig regularly in Terminal to make sure, I have no IP number obtained from telcos.

When you are using Maxis Unlimited Data Plan, do not turn off, and turn on this feature via web, repeatedly; Maxis WILL change your Unlimited status to Pay-Per-Use. Got more than RM300 bill for just 24 hours.

Maxis CS told me, "Sekarang ni senang sahaja. Encik pakai, Encik bayar-lah."

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@aifoninfo,
I wasn't aware we're able to change our data plan packages via web?!
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I wasn't aware we're able to change our data plan packages via web?!
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At http://www.maxis.com.my/ , click Manage Personal Account: Login. Call your customer support for the password.

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Ahh... well to-date I haven't been able to access my web account so I guess there's nothing much for me to worry about biggrin.gif Tanks for the information though.

Er... it's time for an upgrade perhaps? biggrin.gif
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It clearly was too late for me to find out all the carzy affairs of maxis iphone. i should have do some research before buying iphone from maxis..atleast finding this forum earlier will definately change my mind on maxis iphone.

i bought 16g iphone from maxis last saturday (27.6.09 at 6pm) at KLCC roadshow and go for data value rm50/month for 500mb. i goes with my postpaid value plus of rm50 (i transfered my number from prepaid to postpaid).

I have checked with the sales girl promoting the phone to me, basically with 500mb i could go approximately 1000 minutes of checking email and light browsing..while 11 hours of you tubing...so i think 500mb is suficient to my usage pattern. i bought iphone just bcoz of the phone feature and not so much on online functions.

now it come to freaing horror part. Just after 2 days..i received sms from maxis saying my unbilled amount has reached 80% credit limit (rm130 of rm150)! how on earth that i could be billed that much in 2 days where my phone indicated data usage of 20mb only! call and sms is very minimum, that for sure.

then i call call centre and they give crap response! i asked how they allocate 500mb data to me since with 2 days my unbilled amount is already reaching limit (which i believe in couple of days i would easily reached limit and will be bared). They explain to me that the 500mb will come as rebate only at the end of the month..which i dont think that is the case.

If that is their billing treatment..those with limit of rm150, i am cock sure they wont be survive until month end to enjoy the 500mb that they paid for! by the way, they unable to give me the details of the bill since it still appear as unbilled item.

1 funny thing about this matter, they got a cheek to say that maybe the high bill could be due to i used my phone to talk and sms....

Maxis is really a god..they seem to know better then we are when come to phone usage although they can show us the detail of their charge..

anybody know how this 500mb data is treated in their billing process...

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Can that be done - Tether via WiFi?
I don't think so, unless you have made it successfully.
AFAIK, I tried over USB cable and it works beautifully on Mac, shouldn't have any problem with Bluetooth also I assume.
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using wifi can and without open 3g . but the ip is the maxis iphone ,not streamyx wifi ip.and also i try test the speed n the result is 1mb download.why i only use edge to connect can get 1mb speed.that is my problem.

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i wondering y u guys keep talking the fon got probs....
it is cause of stupid MAXIS
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i wondering y u guys keep talking the fon got probs....
it is cause of stupid MAXIS
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agreed with you! do doubt the phone still sucking data through edge automatically even you g=hv shut down the 3g but..how much data it would cost you! 500mb is sufficient to bufer it. we may control 3g usage and could do less to stop edge from kick in (unless me disable it using bosspref etc). but as long as maxis charge us correctly and fairly, it should cause us problems...and the forum wont be this long!hehe
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In fact, take data unlimited plan for DIGI is the best choice.. no need worry about limit and just paid rm 66 per month !
(sorry for those who subscribed package of Maxis iPhone)
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QUOTE(nye79 @ Jul 2 2009, 03:48 PM)
It clearly was too late for me to find out all the carzy affairs of maxis iphone. i should have do some research before buying iphone from maxis..atleast finding this forum earlier will definately change my mind on maxis iphone.

i bought 16g iphone from maxis last saturday (27.6.09 at 6pm) at KLCC roadshow and go for data value rm50/month for 500mb. i goes with my postpaid value plus of rm50 (i transfered my number from prepaid to postpaid).

I have checked with the sales girl promoting the phone to me, basically with 500mb i could go approximately 1000 minutes of checking email and light browsing..while 11 hours of you tubing...so i think 500mb is suficient to my usage pattern. i bought iphone just bcoz of the phone feature and not so much on online functions.

now it come to freaing horror part. Just after 2 days..i received sms from maxis saying my unbilled amount has reached 80% credit limit (rm130 of rm150)! how on earth that i could be billed that much in 2 days where my phone indicated data usage of 20mb only! call and sms is very minimum, that for sure.

then i call call centre and they give crap response! i asked how they allocate 500mb data to me since with 2 days my unbilled amount is already reaching limit (which i believe in couple of days i would easily reached limit and will be bared).  They explain to me that the 500mb will come as rebate only at the end of the month..which i dont think that is the case.

If that is their billing treatment..those with limit of rm150, i am cock sure they wont be survive until month end to enjoy the 500mb that they paid for! by the way, they unable to give me the details of the bill since it still appear as unbilled item.

1 funny thing about this matter, they got a cheek to say that maybe the high bill could be due to i used my phone to talk and sms....

Maxis is really a god..they seem to know better then we are when come to phone usage although they can show us the detail of their charge..

anybody know how this 500mb data is treated in their billing process...

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ur question is quite valid. currently im usin d 8bucks for 500sms thingy. i am charged for d sms used n its oni rebated back at d end of d mth. so ,is d data charged d same way? if dat is so, wudnt take long for u to bar ur fone unless ur ct limit is like 800bucks o sumthin..
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haha bro i have the same issue.
the first few months of my bills was crazy but i had to pay cos my iphone was actually the culprit and it wasnt maxis' fault.
and i totally understand how you feel when you try telling the matter to any of the maxis store assistant. they dont friggin get you at all, and its so annoying. all they reply is "im sorry i cant help you. theres only so much i can do. try this and that and see whether next month the problem will still persist blablaba". its so frustrating.

but fortunately, after going to 4different maxis branches, i came to this one where the assistant actually understood my problem. and he 'BLACKLISTED' my 3g line. from den on the problem is gone. but on the downside, gps wud b utter useless unless under wifi coverage but den again, when will you b so fortunate to b lost but still have wifi right?

so there's the pros and cons to consider. but saving rm250 on my bills each month was definitely worth the risk. cheers! smile.gif
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@llsphinxll,
Er.. Blacklisted here means Ur no longer allowed to use the 3G network?! Er.. Y need a 3G phone if U can't use the 3G network?!

Also how bad was this "data streaming in" thingy?! How much MB were U using?!
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i have read all the comments/problems in this enlightening forum (kudos to person who initiated it!) and from my understanding and point o views, these are the possible area of concern:


1) suspected maxis billing flaws when come to quantify data usage of customer accurately. this is evidence from discrepancies between maxis figure and customer (based on iphone record). - there is nothing we can do..

- if we see this was, If iphone record usage based on actual bytes downloaded..while maxis bill is in 1mb block..it could result in diff beween these 2 records? eg. u browse 2 times at 0.2mb each, so iphone will show 0.4mb downloaded by maxis bill u 2mb instead. we tend to go in and out of the line/browse. anybody got view on this?

2) Iphone feature where the edge could kick in even after 3g has been disable and therefore could result in usage of data unknowingly. - We can do something about it - Bosspref, rubish APN number etc as suggested earlier..

3) for new users, the data package is not activated on the same day customer bought the iphone / register. as a result, any usage of data prior to activation will be charge at damn high normal rate. for new iphone users this is a very crucial period since we tend to download applications form apple store which size around 5 - 10mb / apps..can u imagine how damaging it is? - so..check with maxis when they activated the data package..until it confirm..try to hold ur excitement and dont do any big downloading prior to activation.


i strongly believe my case was on #3. i downloaded 26mb at half cent/kps.

So, most of the problem, in my opinion, can be cointained except for flaws from maxis system..and monkeys manning there cs counter!

Have a nice day!
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QUOTE(geo-milano @ Jul 2 2009, 07:06 PM)
In fact, take data unlimited plan for DIGI is the best choice.. no need worry about limit and  just paid rm 66 per month !
(sorry for those who subscribed package of Maxis iPhone)
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Digi is somewhat superior in streaming data since day 1, with their EDGE connection. Perhaps because of the Digi MobileTV , accessing youtube in Midnite is quite good.

Perhaps everyone with iPhone should go blogging to pay their Maxis/telco bill.


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QUOTE(3536837 @ Jul 2 2009, 04:32 PM)
i wondering y u guys keep talking the fon got probs....
it is cause of stupid MAXIS
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You right... just buy outright iPhone then throw Maxis/ Hotlink simcard into rubbish bin.
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Hi all,

I have recently changed my Maxis package to include unlimited data and I've been unable to reconnect to the Internet. Previously, I followed the instructions listed here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281

to disable the APN settings. Could someone tell me how to enable my 3G again? Thanks.
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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Jul 5 2009, 12:19 AM)
Hi all,

I have recently changed my Maxis package to include unlimited data and I've been unable to reconnect to the Internet. Previously, I followed the instructions listed here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281

to disable the APN settings. Could someone tell me how to enable my 3G again? Thanks.
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try to "reset network settings"
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Tried tat. Still can't get it to work
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Tried tat. Still can't get it to work
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i have no idea idea then.

perhaps you can make sure that the actual 3G network on that SIM card is working, on another 3G phone.

if that fails, other than restoring (and set up as a new phone), i cannot figure anything else
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today i walked in a maxis shop in a mall purposely to ask about the 3gb data limit for iData rm99/mth plan appeared in the maxis website.

the sales girl reply me by saying that its still unlimited, just that if you exceed the 3gb bandwidth u will experience "slow down" when u download things, but for normal surfing it will be unaffected.

so i asked, isnt surfing is same as downloading? when u r surfing u are "downloading" the webpage to your phone.

she said its different, surfing is surfing, download is download.

and i walked out from the shop knowing i shouldnt waste my time anymore.

so can anyone confirm that the idata plan is really unlimited despite its written "3gb" in the maxis website?

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Most ISP use this feature. It is called fair usage policy or fair access policy.

When you reach the limit, the traffic from your device, will be less prioritize, than the other traffic from another device that does not yet reach the limit.

Thus making your surfin and downloading seem slower. If you use your device at 3 AM (or whenever) and there is no other traffic, your speed would be normal (best effort).

For larger size of fair usage policy, for you home computer, consider Streamyx or P1 W1max.

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@kenso77,
To re-enable your APN, go to Settings and DELETE the Profile. After that, it should work; if it doesn't, restart ur iPhone and voila u'll be streaming in data biggrin.gif

@cloudeen,
The RM99 Unlimited Plan from Maxis is NOT unlimited though the CS tells U so. My Maxis insider tells me it caps at 3GB and anything AFTER the 3GB is chargeable!
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 5 2009, 10:16 AM)
@cloudeen,
The RM99 Unlimited Plan from Maxis is NOT unlimited though the CS tells U so.  My Maxis insider tells me it caps at 3GB and anything AFTER the 3GB is chargeable!
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there you go, i knew there gotta be a pitfall ahead. moral of the story is to believe what u see in website rather than CS.

but according to the website, for general mobile internet plan, rm99 entitle you for unlimited usage.

therefore the unlimited bandwidth is only applicable if u signup WITHOUT taking the iphone (idata plan)? if you take the plan with iphone its capped at 3gb?
what a stupid idea. duh
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@cloudeen,
I don't know what U read and I've learnt that Maxis websites can be changed plus their CS so I usually take what I get from my Insider. Also I didn't sign up for my "Unlimited" plan WITH the iPhone plan.

My insider tells me, it's 3GB capped nevertheless biggrin.gif So I suggest U take note of this 3GB capped thingy. Apparently it's the same on the USB modems too *shrugs* I didn't ask much about that because I don't have one biggrin.gif
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for those who are concern, the ivalue data plans is only designed for the different ppls with different needs. The lowest commitment is likely suitable for those who use less data eg checking mails,browse the net..download? better use the wifi, hence,it will sufficient for the rest of the day.

its not shocked that ivalue would have this trouble as i been seen one of maxis customers were being charge for nearly a thousand, data only without included the sms and voice call charges. therefore, the normal that the customer consultant said 'it cheap already' to you.

but, one thing for sure, maxis doesnt understand how the data charge applied and their system have something wrong with it. As you can see, they offer us 333 minuets,but, they still charging us base on value, checking balance via the easy access told me the value we have use~ have you ever wondering since the bill is combine with the voice and data, how can they still use the same old system? its kinda confusing.

and, no matter which ivalue you are in, the data charge is matter of concerns and most peoples were charge sometime twice or more they are subscribing for.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jul 5 2009, 12:41 AM)
i have no idea idea then.

perhaps you can make sure that the actual 3G network on that SIM card is working, on another 3G phone.

if that fails, other than restoring (and set up as a new phone), i cannot figure anything else
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I should probably add that I'm inserting a data SIM card (the one that comes with the Huawei USB modem Maxis sells) to the iPhone. There was a massive Mac roadshow in Midvalley these few days and I asked one of the Maxis staff there. According to him, the Iphone does not recognise the data SIM card. Is this true?
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@kenso77,
If I ain't mistaken the SIMs on those USB modems do NOT work the same as the ones we have on our phones. They just don't receive or make calls.
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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Jul 5 2009, 06:46 PM)
I should probably add that I'm inserting a data SIM card (the one that comes with the Huawei USB modem Maxis sells) to the iPhone. There was a massive Mac roadshow in Midvalley these few days and I asked one of the Maxis staff there. According to him, the Iphone does not recognise the data SIM card. Is this true?
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@kenso77,
If I ain't mistaken the SIMs on those USB modems do NOT work the same as the ones we have on our phones.  They just don't receive or make calls.
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Just wanting to shed sm light on tis matter. I've seen n used my frens 3g used with a dg data only sim. He chooses to use data only on i3g. Surfing n other data activities r working fine. Just can't kal n SMS. So I tink it's no prob thr to use a data only sim on i3g.
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I have called Maxis 123 and they say the same thing tinkerbel says which is the data SIM card is different from the normal SIMs and therefore, the Iphone could not recognise it. Harmeet15, which telco company your friend is using with the iphone? When I tried using the Maxis data line, I get no signal at all.
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@harmeet15,
The theory is right about using it on the iPhone but perhaps in order for the SIM to get a line, it first needs a modem to call out? *smiles*
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I have called Maxis 123 and they say the same thing tinkerbel says which is the data SIM card is different from the normal SIMs and therefore, the Iphone could not recognise it. Harmeet15, which telco company your friend is using with the iphone? When I tried using the Maxis data line, I get no signal at all.
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Jailbreak it, and I am pretty sure it will be recognized.
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Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Hello,

iPhone Generation : 3G
Locked/Unlocked (or Part Number) : Officially Unlocked
Current Firmware : 3.0.1
iTunes Version : 8.2
Computer Platform : Vista
Jailbreaking software : RedSn0w
Problem Encountered : see below
Steps Had Taken (list down) : completely disable edge and 3g using fakeapn
Problem Screenshot (if any) : none
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I've been using this phone for almost 1month. Its being completely re-installed with fresh firmware. Disabled 3G and edge right after jb with fakeapn.
When I recieve my Celcom bill this month, I've been charged for about RM40 for 3G usage. Does anybody face the same problem ?

ps:/ sorry i've been searchin around but didnt found any thread that suites this. Mod, please move to appropriate thread if any.

Thanks.

Atttached are my pics of setting & Proof Of Concept
1. no internet (no wifi and 3g is off)
2. the IP setting
3. the APN setting

err how to attach ?

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got a bit of a query. im using Maxis Hotlink Prepaid Broadband on my iPhone. 2GB for 1 week, 25 hengget (siot tol mahal nak mampos...) im using the hotlink simcard strictly for data, so no sms or calling-calling k, but that thing keeps charging me money every now and then. not alot, but i have a feeling it starts charging when the 3G drops to GPRS. Dunno if im paranoid or what, but what u guys reckon???
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how can we stop gprs then ?
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even though you disable everything, the data seems still flows to your iPhone
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@ctzalifah,

Have you try to surf using Safari? Check whether can load data eventho 3G, and EDGE has been disable.
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@rip_code my safari doesnt work, however the counter in cellular network data statistic is increasing bits by bits and got 2K within 5 minutes. No apps running. SBSettings with 3G off, Edge Off, FakeAPN. Is there any other apps that running that would eat up my bytes ?

Currently im Upgrading to 3.0.1 - after upgrading, the data in cellular network data is still at 0 bytes.

I'll let it be idle for 10 minutes and see how. After that will do JB and see how. Will update later after JB.

@22:20 JB the unit back with the apps... wait a few other minutes, the cellular network data counter are not increase.. this is great !... now im transferring my apps, music, video and notes again.


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QUOTE(ctzalifah @ Oct 5 2009, 09:51 PM)
@rip_code my safari doesnt work, however the counter in cellular network data statistic is increasing bits by bits and got 2K within 5 minutes. No apps running. SBSettings with 3G off, Edge Off, FakeAPN. Is there any other apps that running that would eat up my bytes ?

Currently im Upgrading to 3.0.1 - after upgrading, the data in cellular network data is still at 0 bytes.

I'll let it be idle for 10 minutes and see how. After that will do JB and see how. Will update later after JB.

@22:20 JB the unit back with the apps... wait a few other minutes, the cellular network data counter are not increase.. this is great !... now im transferring my apps, music, video and notes again.
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Just to make sure there is no background apps is running, you can troubleshoot by force quit all apps. hold down power button until slide to off then hold home button until it loads back your springboard nod.gif
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i'll try that. is it the same to re-spring (using SBSetting?)
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@nodoubt,
I was using the i3G for almost 10 months without any problems with disabling of APN. Perhaps something changed since a lot of people seem to be having problems disabling APN. I don't remember paying a single cent to Maxis for unauthorised data usage charges.

Now I'm on a plan and am loving having the world at my finger tips smile.gif
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@tinkerbell how to do that ? via sbsetting - fakeapn or manually disable it ? mine still being billed for unauthorized data usage sad.gif
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i'm using i3G on prepaid and always check my credit b4 going online or downloading apps..sometime my credit is topup like 2sen after i surf the internet..and sometime i been charge like 4sen..my usage for a month still less then the free 500mb...i still in OS 3.0
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Do you guys know, if it is possible to upgrade my current iValue1 plan to IData plan (3GB)?


My company recently started providing subsidies for 3G broadband(up to rm 70) and it kinda seems like a good deal to me since i don't really call/sms much.. I'm just double checking actually, I've asked the hotline and they said I can't because I am on contract but I thought I read before someone switch to the unlimited plan, or are they just "adding on" to it?

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i am on iphone 2g and cydia usage is not tracked on usage tab. on os 3.0
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i am on iphone 2g and cydia usage is  not tracked on usage tab. on os 3.0
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@ctzalifah,
I used a non-JB set. Initially, I just put in some crap stuff in the APN. When Maxis was officially announced as the official provider here in Malaysia, I ter-updated my network settings and my APN settings "disappeared"; I then created a fake profile. It worked for me and a couple of my friends; have no idea why it's not working for U though *shrugs*

@tnsai,
You could always check with Maxis if they'll allow you to upgrade but from iValue 1 to iData they might not entertain U. If it's iValue 1 to iValue 3 maybe got chance tongue.gif Anyhow, no harm checking with Maxis. Also, don't forget to ask for waiver of whatever fees needed to be paid.

@developer,
I've been told by those using jailbroken phones that their usage counter ain't too accurate. It apparently is quite accurate on the non jailbroken phones.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 6 2009, 08:41 PM)

@tnsai,
You could always check with Maxis if they'll allow you to upgrade but from iValue 1 to iData they might not entertain U.  If it's iValue 1 to iValue 3 maybe got chance tongue.gif  Anyhow, no harm checking with Maxis.  Also, don't forget to ask for waiver of whatever fees needed to be paid.

@developer,
I've been told by those using jailbroken phones that their usage counter ain't too accurate.  It apparently is quite accurate on the non jailbroken phones.
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Thanks for the info.


I think it depends what apps you use from Cydia, just have to becareful when you use apps that uses the network. Although, for example, xGPS's usage is pretty clear and it shows on the counter.
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@developer,
I've been told by those using jailbroken phones that their usage counter ain't too accurate.  It apparently is quite accurate on the non jailbroken phones.
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then it means for non-jb phone
the data usage counter is quite accurate is it!?
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@12321,
That's what I'd been told. I've also been checking on mine and it seems quite accurate. Plus, it's sista + and not bro! bruce.gif
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@12321,
That's what I'd been told.  I've also been checking on mine and it seems quite accurate.  Plus, it's sista + and not bro! bruce.gif
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@12321,
That's what I'd been told.  I've also been checking on mine and it seems quite accurate.  Plus, it's sista + and not bro! bruce.gif
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@tnsai,
You could check though I'd never gotten information from there. I'd always waited till my bill came and more or less rely on the Usage counter on the iPhone smile.gif
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You could check though I'd never gotten information from there.  I'd always waited till my bill came and more or less rely on the Usage counter on the iPhone smile.gif
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me too. have to wait for my bill to come and see how much i kena biggrin.gif
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hi guys. Doesn't Maxis provide us with any features to check online how much data we have used since last billing date? I checked their website and couldn't find any info on this. I think Maxis should provide us with this service.
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hi guys. Doesn't Maxis provide us with any features to check online how much data we have used since last billing date? I checked their website and couldn't find any info on this. I think Maxis should provide us with this service.
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@ashwin988,
How much have you exceeded your usage by and just how do u know?

@kelvingoh9,
Nup.. nothing of that sort from any of our local telcos.
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conclusion: as long as ur on a data plan u may be charged excessively hmm.gif
and coz the billing ain't itemized.. u can't argue..
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conclusion: as long as ur on a data plan u may be charged excessively hmm.gif
and coz the billing ain't itemized.. u can't argue..
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@ah1,
Manual itemised data billing? Are u sure it even exists?

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I haven't had issues with Maxis over charging me on data services. Perhaps I'd just been lucky?
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@ctzalifah,
I used a non-JB set.  Initially, I just put in some crap stuff in the APN.  When Maxis was officially announced as the official provider here in Malaysia, I ter-updated my network settings and my APN settings "disappeared"; I then created a fake profile.  It worked for me and a couple of my friends; have no idea why it's not working for U though *shrugs*

@tnsai,
You could always check with Maxis if they'll allow you to upgrade but from iValue 1 to iData they might not entertain U.  If it's iValue 1 to iValue 3 maybe got chance tongue.gif  Anyhow, no harm checking with Maxis.  Also, don't forget to ask for waiver of whatever fees needed to be paid.

@developer,
I've been told by those using jailbroken phones that their usage counter ain't too accurate.  It apparently is quite accurate on the non jailbroken phones.
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yes. it may not track all the things from cydia. i have checked on the *100# and i have even try to download some stuff on cydia and the counter does not increase. my phone usage differ with the *100# for maxis.
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hi,

can someone tell me how do I check my data usage using Iphone?
and is there any charges if i play games using iPhone?
I'm not very sure how they charge me but last month my data usage suddenly become quite high compare to normal. As I remembered I din not use much to surf net. Only on facebook and email.

Sorry for being noob but appreciate if someone can guide me. Thanks
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hi,

can someone tell me how do I check my data usage using Iphone?
and is there any charges if i play games using iPhone?
I'm not very sure how they charge me but last month my data usage suddenly become quite high compare to normal. As I remembered I din not use much to surf net. Only on facebook and email.

Sorry for being noob but appreciate if someone can guide me. Thanks
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read http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281

Settings -> General -> Usage -> Cellular Network Data

there are games which connects to its server for high score updates & news. disable your 3G/EDGE to prevent any data usage.

read 3. Phone Credit Flying Out The Window? Turn 'OFF' EDGE on how to disable EDGE.
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read 3. Phone Credit Flying Out The Window? Turn 'OFF' EDGE on how to disable EDGE.
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Hmm does this mean that, even though you aren't doing anything and have MMS, and notifications turned off somehow the EDGE thing will still use some bandwidth? or the phrase "Phone Credit Flying out the window" refers to activities that actually have to use the service ?
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Oct 8 2009, 02:32 PM)
read http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281

Settings -> General -> Usage -> Cellular Network Data

there are games which connects to its server for high score updates & news. disable your 3G/EDGE to prevent any data usage.

read 3. Phone Credit Flying Out The Window? Turn 'OFF' EDGE on how to disable EDGE.
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how about for 2g? how do we know whether the games are connected to server or not.

I have reset the statistic just now and when I check again there is data sent and received. But in fact I'm not using it. The 'E' is always appear on the screen.
Can advise?

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Hmm does this mean that, even though you aren't doing anything and have MMS, and notifications turned off somehow the EDGE thing will still use some bandwidth? or the phrase "Phone Credit Flying out the window" refers to activities that actually have to use the service ?
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how about for 2g? how do we know whether the games are connected to server or not.

I have reset the statistic just now and when I check again there is data sent and received. But in fact I'm not using it. The 'E' is always appear on the screen.
Can advise?
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basically, yes. and it'll depends on the apps that you have in your phone. check your data usage column in Settings. the best way to prevent all these unwanted data usage is to disable EDGE/3G according to the guide in my last post.

however, most apps ill only utilise few KBs most of the time. for Maxis, 10kb = RM1. (used ESPN ScoreCenter to check the latest football scores and the app only uses around 10kb for score updates)
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Oct 8 2009, 04:47 PM)
basically, yes. and it'll depends on the apps that you have in your phone. check your data usage column in Settings. the best way to prevent all these unwanted data usage is to disable EDGE/3G according to the guide in my last post.

however, most apps ill only utilise few KBs most of the time. for Maxis, 10kb = RM1. (used ESPN ScoreCenter to check the latest football scores and the app only uses around 10kb for score updates)
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Hmm ok thanks for the information, so basically couple of things to take note off is the data usage column.. and also to check in processes (if you have sbsettings) to see what else is running on your IPhone right?

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how do i know whether i have enable edge? the E icon will remain there?
but when i try to connect to the web, it failed. Is this means that I have disable it?
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I kena from maxis charging me rm346 celcom rm200 something for Internet usage.. Can read from my blog for more info.. Anyway, to summarize, I don online but iPhone auto online when I open apps then kena.. My maxis is ivalue plan with 500mb free but still kena rm346.. D usage not talley with my iPhone data counter.. So what do u Think?
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QUOTE(jingyong @ Oct 8 2009, 09:57 PM)
I kena from maxis charging me rm346 celcom rm200 something for Internet usage.. Can read from my blog for more info.. Anyway, to summarize, I don online but iPhone auto online when I open apps then kena.. My maxis is ivalue plan with 500mb free but still kena rm346.. D usage not talley with my iPhone data counter.. So what do u Think?
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Is your iPhone JB or not ? Your Cellular Data Network counter reads the same as maxis punya usage ?
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@jingyong,
RM346 is like 692MB extra over and above the 500MB you have. I certainly don't think it's possible to go overboard by so much especially if it's only because you ter-opened an application connecting u to the Internet.

Best if you go speak with Maxis on your issue.

@naughtyspirit,
Have u oredi disabled APN and all? If so and if you open Safari and any other applications that need to utilise the web, it'll tell U that u do not have connection and the page just won't load smile.gif

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yes. it may not track all the things from cydia. i have checked on the *100# and i have even try to download some stuff on cydia and the counter does not increase. my phone usage differ with the *100# for maxis.
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how to check the usage from maxis using *100#.
didnt see the option to check data usage

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@jingyong,
RM346 is like 692MB extra over and above the 500MB you have.  I certainly don't think it's possible to go overboard by so much especially if it's only because you ter-opened an application connecting u to the Internet.

Best if you go speak with Maxis on your issue.

@naughtyspirit,
Have u oredi disabled APN and all?  If so and if you open Safari and any other applications that need to utilise the web, it'll tell U that u do not have connection and the page just won't load smile.gif
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yes. i have instead this http://iphonenodata.com/ in my phone. I cant connect to the internet now (not sure bout wifi though cus have not try it yet). So it means that i have disable it right.

The E icon is still there. I'm just afraid that the data usage showed in my phone is not same with maxis. And by end of the month, it will be a bomb for my bill
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@naughtyspirit,
You should be fine then. Go to Stocks or Weather to give it a try - it shouldn't work either cause it'll need you to connect to the internet.

The E icon will be there, it just means there's Edge coverage in the area you're in. Also, you shouldn't be charged for wifi and u should have no problems getting onto the Internet if you're connected to Wifi smile.gif
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@naughtyspirit,
You should be fine then.  Go to Stocks or Weather to give it a try - it shouldn't work either cause it'll need you to connect to the internet.

The E icon will be there, it just means there's Edge coverage in the area you're in.  Also, you shouldn't be charged for wifi and u should have no problems getting onto the Internet if you're connected to Wifi smile.gif
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oh i see.. good to hear that and thanks everyone for the guide. Sorry for so many questions. =)
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yes, my iphone is JB-ed but i have not installed any Cydia apps in my iphone.. my iphone usage is not talley with the maxis one.. they called me and asked me why wanna terminate so i told them the Rm346 thing and they agree to send me the itemized bill for free.. so i'll see what happen then..
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I'm using iPhone 3GS from Maxis. Is cellular network data is the usage data from maxis? They give me 1GB free data, if the cellular network data is the one that they charge I can manage not to over use than 1GB to avoid extra charge. Are they reset the data usage every month when they bill me?
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yes, my iphone is JB-ed but i have not installed any Cydia apps in my iphone.. my iphone usage is not talley with the maxis one.. they called me and asked me why wanna terminate so i told them the Rm346 thing and they agree to send me the itemized bill for free.. so i'll see what happen then..
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even without jailbreak & Cydia, your phone can still connect to the internet via apps that you've purchased (eg. games).

QUOTE(pengejar @ Oct 10 2009, 03:28 AM)
I'm using iPhone 3GS from Maxis. Is cellular network data is the usage data from maxis? They give me 1GB free data, if the cellular network data is the one that they charge I can manage not to over use than 1GB to avoid extra charge. Are they reset the data usage every month when they bill me?
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yes. that's the usage column which you can monitor. i don't think it's possible to go over 1GB that you've allocated to you unless you're a heavy surfer or tether. Maxis will reset it according to your billing period, amount will be prorated.
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@ah1,
Weird because when I checked, they tell me they can't give me a breakdown each month. Ah well, perhaps rules have changed *shrugs* but it's a good thing I haven't found much discrepancies with my data charges smile.gif
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Got problem with my Streamyx, can't login. I connect to internet using iPhone as my modem for my Macbook. Average daily usage is about 150MB download 20MB upload. Just surfing nothing much. I think if I always connect to the internet from my Macbook using iPhone the 1GB only last about 10days hahaha. Thanks for your reply and answer teikwing. So basically I don't need to reset it manually every month on my billing date? Since it's auto reset rite?

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QUOTE(pengejar @ Oct 10 2009, 12:54 PM)
Got problem with my Streamyx, can't login. I connect to internet using iPhone as my modem for my Macbook. Average daily usage is about 150MB download 20MB upload. Just surfing nothing much. I think if I always connect to the internet from my Macbook using iPhone the 1GB only last about 10days hahaha. Thanks for your reply and answer teikwing. So basically I don't need to reset it manually every month on my billing date? Since it's auto reset rite?
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reset as in reset the data usage column in your iPhone? you'll need to do that in order to keep track of your usage for a particular billing period.
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@pengejar,
If you're going to be using your iPhone for Internet Tethering and going to do v heavy surfing, 1GB might not be suffice. However, U should manually monitor your own usage and not go overboard smile.gif

As what teikwing has mentioned, U will need to manually set the Usage counter on ur i3GS - Maxis only sets their own counter at the end of your bill cycle.
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Still confused. Usage data in my iPhone show the usage data since the first time I use it? Not for particular month and automatic reset after Maxis bill me? And the one that you mention earlier is which part? Which one that Maxis automatic reset after they bill me? Sorry if I ask a lot of questions.
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@pengejar,
The Usage stats U see on your iPhone is from the day you started using the phone (unless you have reset it before). You will need to manually reset that counter at the end of your Maxis bill cycle.
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okay okay. thanks. smile.gif
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Just a word of advise from my own situation. In digi, if you are using prepaid mobile, you will be charge RM10 for 1MB. I used it once for emergency and the bill came up to RM90 for 9MB. Not that I am blaming them but just be careful of the spending because it costs a lot.
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Experiencing the usage of Wi-Fi VS idata



Hi for you guys out there, any one using WI-Fi to surf net but not the idata ?

I just found out the iphone 3gs have a little dark side, which will automatic hook up to idata even you do not subscribe the package. The problem come with if your WI-FI connection is weak, it will connect directly to the data without u knowing it ! So, if you do not subscribe any of the data this will cost you a boom. 14MB = RM114.00

Do share with me if you have this problem ! sad.gif
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if off the 3G still will connect ?
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it will use gprs / edge.. same charge
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That is correct, you got to call Maxxx to menu turn it off, and also do not trust the report on Cellular Network Data.

The data is not accurate told by the operator !

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I not too sure for other operator and postpaid, but for DIGI prepaid, just leave the APN in the cellular data network blank then it wont use edge, Only will connect to wifi when available.

But when you need to use the mobile internet, just type in the APN diginet and that will use the mobile internet by Digi.
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Experiencing the usage of Wi-Fi VS idata



Hi for you guys out there, any one using WI-Fi to surf net but not the idata ?

I just found out the iphone 3gs have a little dark side, which will automatic hook up to idata even you do not subscribe the package. The problem come with if your WI-FI connection is weak, it will connect directly to the data without u knowing it ! So, if you do not subscribe any of the data this will cost you a boom. 14MB = RM114.00

Do share with me if you have this problem !  sad.gif
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aiyooooohhh ... this is "LONG standing" problem for user Of IPhone ... even B4 Iphone is official Launch by maxis......

story goes like this .... Many many of the "GREY" set of iphone user kena phone bill of "HUNDREDS " ringgit on Data ... even confess that only using WIFI connection ... ( even confirm that using HOME personal WIFI ) also Kena ........

so refuse to pay laaahhh .. I got frens (lawyer) working in MAXIS tellling that .... THis is the user "problem " $$$ still need to be pay to maxis ...otherwise court case

bottom line is >.iphone is TOO smart on their connection ... yes it is designed to be that way ... that's why so GOOOOODD mahhh .. !!!

it is only that the consumer play mouse and cat game with the operator ... and operator NOT telling the whole story ..... otherwise how to make $$$ from u ...(sucker )




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I got my bill 2 days ago. Have to pay extra RM 100+ because they say I used 526mb but my iPhone says 450mb. What say you guys?
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^^ same case here. my phone show 492mb. upload + download. and suddenly one day i cant call and sms. went to check at maxis and they say i reached my credit limit which is RM 200. i subscribed ivalue 1. damn sien.
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Is there anywhere to activate and deactivate 3G/EDGE manually on the iphone so we can activate it only when we know we need to use mobile data services?
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QUOTE(FalleN @ Oct 14 2009, 05:38 AM)
^^ same case here. my phone show 492mb. upload + download. and suddenly one day i cant call and sms. went to check at maxis and they say i reached my credit limit which is RM 200. i subscribed ivalue 1. damn sien.
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hearing your stories, that is why I am extremely extremely vigilant... I always double check to make sure fakeApn is used. after turning on fake apn, I also do a quick check with appstore etc to make sure that my Internet connection (via 3g is dead) before I go on Wifi etc.


That is about the only thing we can do. Since Maxis does not allow us to check our usage online, we can't really dispute anything (no proof). Turn off everything guys... push notifications.. MMS ...


Also, another thing I do is, when I download anything from App Store or Cydia using 3G i always check to see if that downoad is recorded on the iphone bandwidth meter.. if it doesn't i take note of it . This is because some of the posters here say downloading stuff from cydia does not correctly reflect the actual usage etc. So really, just be more cautious

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Is there anywhere to activate and deactivate 3G/EDGE manually on the iphone so we can activate it only when we know we need to use mobile data services?
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QUOTE(blstz @ Oct 14 2009, 06:46 AM)
Is there anywhere to activate and deactivate 3G/EDGE manually on the iphone so we can activate it only when we know we need to use mobile data services?

alternatively, if yours' is an unjailbroken phone, just go to This Thread, and just do what it says there. first, Enable Carrier Bundle Support in iTunes, then download the .ipcc file that is required. then follow the tutorial on how to install it.

when it's installed, you can alter your APN setting, and then you'll never again activate EDGE/3G unknowingly.

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QUOTE(blstz @ Oct 14 2009, 06:46 AM)
Is there anywhere to activate and deactivate 3G/EDGE manually on the iphone so we can activate it only when we know we need to use mobile data services?
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a much simpler method for non-jailbroken iphones:

just log on to this website from your iphone browser: http://unlockit.co.nz/

follow the instructions and it's done.

to reactivate, go to Settings on your phone -> General -> scroll to the bottom and delete the Fake APN profile.
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Thanks! I havent gotten my iphone yet, just placed my order yesterday. Need to wait another month before i get it T.T

Anyway, a bit worrying to see a lot of customers overshooting the monthly limit, even when the iphone data meter states otherwise. It'll be really annoying to be over charge every single month because then, we'll be too careful and wont be able to enjoy iphone without worrying about the bill
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@blstz,
If you're not doing heavy download u shouldn't have to worry. I'm on the 500mb p/month plan and thus far haven't had any issues with my data usage + bill. Am waiting for this months' bill to double confirm but should be fine.

My last bill apparently states 23MB of usage! *gulps* But that's not accurate since I swapped plans then so this months' statement should be more accurate, even then I don't expect it to hit 100MB since my i3GS Usage only shows:

Sent: 30.8MB
Received: 105MB

And that's since I started using the i3GS.
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Yup I can concur with tinkerbel. I'm on the 500mb package too and haven't gone overboard for the last 2 months. Oh but actually for the last month, I went a little too happy on the internet tethering (accessing net from client's office for work), and by the 15th of the month my counter showed me a total of 504 mb download and upload together. I immediately applied the fake apn profile like I mentioned above for the rest of the month. Anyways, just got my bill, and luckily I wasn't charged for the 4mb extra.

Anyways moral of the story, u should be alright keeping below the limit, just watch yourself if you're tethering too much smile.gif And the data counter on the iPhone may not be the most accurate, but it's good enough. Just give it a rough error margin of 5 to 10 mb and it'll be fine.
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hi..would like to know something related to data usage.
in d celular network data

d sent n received.
does this data sent n received includes sms or wat?
cos i realised tht wenever i do not open any apps or games, my received data wld increased by 0.1 mb. i mean,its lil bt jst wondering how dis tings are charged.
thankx in advance
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@lotus_man.
SMS does not constitute as data service under "Usage"; receiving MMS on the other hand will form part of it.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 14 2009, 07:18 PM)
@blstz,
If you're not doing heavy download u shouldn't have to worry.  I'm on the 500mb p/month plan and thus far haven't had any issues with my data usage + bill.  Am waiting for this months' bill to double confirm but should be fine.

My last bill apparently states 23MB of usage! *gulps* But that's not accurate since I swapped plans then so this months' statement should be more accurate, even then I don't expect it to hit 100MB since my i3GS Usage only shows:

Sent: 30.8MB
Received: 105MB

And that's since I started using the i3GS.
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Oh, hopefully then because i dont think i'll be using my iphone for tethering. Must to check mails, FB, MSN, surf the net a bit. rclxms.gif
The 500MB is including sent and received correct?

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@lotus_man.
SMS does not constitute as data service under "Usage"; receiving MMS on the other hand will form part of it.
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I think it's unfair we charge for receiving MMS since the order party has already paid for it. tongue.gif How about if we send MMS, we get charge RM0.50 and on top of that our monthly data limit also get deducted ka? unsure.gif

QUOTE(jackhammer84 @ Oct 15 2009, 01:27 AM)
Yup I can concur with tinkerbel. I'm on the 500mb package too and haven't gone overboard for the last 2 months. Oh but actually for the last month, I went a little too happy on the internet tethering (accessing net from client's office for work), and by the 15th of the month my counter showed me a total of 504 mb download and upload together. I immediately applied the fake apn profile like I mentioned above for the rest of the month. Anyways, just got my bill, and luckily I wasn't charged for the 4mb extra.

Anyways moral of the story, u should be alright keeping below the limit, just watch yourself if you're tethering too much smile.gif  And the data counter on the iPhone may not be the most accurate, but it's good enough. Just give it a rough error margin of 5 to 10 mb and it'll be fine.
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Guess i need to set a reminder to reset the counter every month. BTW, when is Maxis billing date? I know Digi is on the 21st of every month so have a rough idea to use up extra credit before they close my account for that month. rolleyes.gif
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@blstz,
Yes the 500MB includes data sent + received. If you're just using the phones for those then U should have no issues/worries. I've my emails pushed to the phone, sometimes IM [but I haven't used IM on my iPhone for a while now] and occasionally surf, twitter, etc. off my iPhone and I still have no problems with going overboard. Maybe cause I'm usually in a wifi-area *shrugs*

As for MMS, U will still pay that flat rate charge (whatever the rate is) but U don't get charged when you receive since that is calculated as part of your data package so yes it does get deducted.

There are different cycles for different users. To know when your billing cycle is, contact Maxis on 123 smile.gif
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QUOTE(blstz @ Oct 15 2009, 06:42 AM)

I think it's unfair we charge for receiving MMS since the order party has already paid for it.  tongue.gif How about if we send MMS, we get charge
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The problems is, they aren't charging us for the MMS.. they are just charging for the data bandwidth it takes to receive MMS.. As I do not get any MMS regularly and the ones I get are from MAXIS ads!!(GRMBLE!!).. I turn it off...
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@tnsai,
Maxis ads MMS are RM0.00 so it shouldn't take up any of your bandwidth or usage smile.gif
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@tnsai,
Maxis ads MMS are RM0.00 so it shouldn't take up any of your bandwidth or usage smile.gif
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ohh ok cool.. haha because it showed on my bandwidth counter, but I guess they do have ways of tracking if it is from them.
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@tnsai,
It will definitely show in your "Usage" counter because you're receiving data; just that it won't be chargeable. Am sure Maxis has a different system smile.gif As mentioned previously, this Usage counter is really just an indication.
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ok..if it does not include sms, den y mine increases 0.1mb everyday?
anyway to check what apps is running?
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ok..if it does not include sms, den y mine increases 0.1mb everyday?
anyway to check what apps is running?
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Do you have PUSH on? for Mail or any apps? MMS on? even as Tinkerbel said they won't charge you,but it will still reflect on your usage counter.
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@lotus_man,
Hmm... there must be an app running in the background - what apps are u running? Also, maybe you accidentally opened an app that logged u onto the data services - but takkan U do that everyday without noticing it??

Best is to check what apps you have running. Er.. what app to use ah? Hmm....I think there was one called Free Memory; I don't have it installed so don't quite remember, sorry!
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ohhh..okay. after reading properly now i get it, prollie it jst shows but im not getting charged for it so im cool . smile.gif
thanx
how do u see wat apps are running anywa
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@lotus_man,
U need a 3rd party application. As to whether you're getting charged, we don't know until your Maxis bill comes.
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3g usage will increase even those u off the edge/3g but it only increase very very little....

i'm on unlimited plan cause 3gb not even enough cause i'm heave user.... in a week i can used up to 4gb that stated in iphone but as we not iphone usage r not accurate....

so for those who din use unlimited plan pls bear in mind always off ur 3g or edge, non-jailbreak iphone user have to becareful...
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@wayne78,
What on earth do U do with ur iPhone that U utilise 4GB of data usage p/day? U sure are hard core but if one uses it wisely, I think even 500MB is sufficient lah smile.gif

U use it to download stuff kah? tongue.gif
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lol, im hardly reached 30mb usage, and used it almost 1 month already. waiting for my first bill & see how it goes..

i dunno whether i can utilised up to 250mb per month with my current connection. by the way, I'm in JB, hardly surf & very slow.. rarely on EDGE, no 3G signal detected! why ka na?

Only get 3G connection back in my hometown in Ampang, Selangor

Is there a setting i need to configure, cause already turns on my 3G
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@Hawarizmi,
If 3G is not detected meaning that area don't have 3G available smile.gif
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Hm.. Guys, something to share here. I'm actually with 500mb iData plan 2, but after read this thread and i tested two days on my phone with fakeAPN.

I found the out come below:

- I'm in elevator or place where is quite hard to get signal
- Phone on idle mode
- Some time occurred when i open up my SMS box

The phone will automatically hook up to the data network. shocking.gif I know due fakeAPN is installed and i got a pop out box with the text of, "Could not activate cellular data network. You are not subscribed to a cellular data service"

I run this experiment is because previously (before i installed fakeAPN), i found that my phone cellular network data counter will increase after sometime even i didnt use any online apps or the phone were in idle mode. doh.gif Its something like now i check is 2MB/255kb, but after a couple hour i check back again it will rose to 2mb/279kb. Something fishy eh? Is that because i had on the PUSH function in the phone?

Btw, my were pure set from Maxis without JB done and running on OS 3.1.2. Feel like to do a full restore and try again with fakeAPN to see the next out come.

P/s: A quick question, i just i might be at the wrong thread. But just want to have a quick answer. Is that possible for me to restore from OS 3.1.2 to OS 3.0?

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Ms tinkerbel, noted. TQ

but,

wa lao wei.. whole area in Johor no 3G ka? I've monitoring Iphone 3G connection check on Senai, Kulai, Tebrau, Pulai, Skudai area (Johorian user may fimiliar with the places) - and the best connection is in Senai area on EDGE connection.. maxis dont have 3G signal in johor ka?

any advise, johorian user; kindly help. i dont think any iData plan suite me now..

p/s: got iData 50mb ka? i'll got for it..
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hello, i found this while helping my friend upgrading his iPhone from 3.0.1 to 3.1.2...
He JB his phone already. installed fakeAPN, so no data can get trough.

After upgrade to 3.1.2, the setting in cellular data network have entry for APN etc, so i try to browse, no network for data.. thats kewl.
i reset the network setting everything, APN are left to blank, no mms setting all are blank, i tried to browse, walla wei... i can browse even there are no entry for APN. then i try put some junk setting for APN, still can browse...
means anything we put in garbage setting in APN, the data network will still work ? wah.. how to totally block it( rather than ask your provider to cut 3G service).

this was tested on Celcom as provider.

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Hmm my first bill came, its pro-rated since i only got my IPhone on the 2nd of October.. my data usage is pretty consistent with my IPhone counter..
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 15 2009, 08:25 PM)
@wayne78,
What on earth do U do with ur iPhone that U utilise 4GB of data usage p/day? U sure are hard core but if one uses it wisely, I think even 500MB is sufficient lah smile.gif

U use it to download stuff kah? tongue.gif
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normally tv series will be 300++MB per episode. Summore got few tv series to follow. I understand how and why 4GB weekly is not enuff. THat doesnt include of downloading stuffs biggrin.gif
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@ctzalifah,
For such "hardcore" downloading, one shouldn't be using his iPhone or data connectivity to do the job; use a proper line.

@tnsai,
That's good - mine is pretty consistent too. Bill just came, last month I used slightly below 100MB; looks like I didn't make the wrong decision in swapping from iData 3 to iData 2 plan smile.gif

@Hawarizmi,
Yes it's odd but perhaps U could check 3G coverage locations with Maxis.
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not sure this is the correct place to ask or not, when I

- enable 3G & EDGE together = can surf net with safari
- disable 3G + enable EDGE = can surf net with safari but kind of slow
- enable 3G + disable EDGE = cannot surf net with safari, it said "safari cannot open the page because it is not connected to the internet"

I have 16GB white i3GS, OS 3.1.2 JB Is this normal or something is not right with my phone?

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@hellwaker

which provider are u using ? im on Celcom and i had that same experience as yours today. Previously is OK.

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It probably means that the 3G in your area isn't good and it can't get a signal.. so it tries to use Edge which you have disabled so it cna't access any net service..
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@hellwaker

which provider are u using ? im on Celcom and i had that same experience as yours today. Previously is OK.
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It probably means that the 3G in your area isn't good and it can't get a signal.. so it tries to use Edge which you have disabled so it cna't access any net service..
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I can confirm 3G icon on the top right corner is up.

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QUOTE(hellwaker @ Oct 17 2009, 10:51 PM)
I'm on Maxis set. May be 3G service is down. Any sifu can help to explain this.


Added on October 17, 2009, 10:57 pm

I can confirm 3G icon on the top right corner is up.
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@hellwaker,
What do U mean by disable EDGE? There's no way of disabling EDGE unless you key in a fake APN or use a fake profile; in which case that should totally disable data service whether or not your 3G is on or off.
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What do U mean by disable EDGE?  There's no way of disabling EDGE unless you key in a fake APN or use a fake profile; in which case that should totally disable data service whether or not your 3G is on or off.
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I got 1 case.. My friend's iPhone having a problem.. It always can not using safari,ym,Im+(all apps using Internet). It will become hanging just like that(searching) and some of it will kick out back.. He have to off and on back the phone to solve the problem.. Meaning that he always have to off and on back when he want to use the apps or safari.. Is that normal or not?? Phone or line(digi) got problem?? He using digi data plan.. Please help me with this guys.. If u can please pm me coz i will not everyday online.. Much appreaciated if can pm me.. Thanx Alot!!!

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@hellwaker,
Uhm... urs is a jailbroken phone huh? In that case, can't advice much since I'm on a virgin phone smile.gif

@rosizzat1000,
It's definitely not normal though sometimes it does happen esp on the i3G due to insuffice of RAM.
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Yes.. Jailbreak and os 3.0.1.. So is this normal problem to i3g??
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@rosizzat1000,
If it's a recurring problem and it happens to ALL the apps, then it is not normal. I have faced situations where my apps would 'hang' and subsequently close but it doesn't happen too often. It's even rarer on my i3GS so I only assume it's due to insuffice of RAM on the older model *shrugs*
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Shit... I use Maxis3G to download a 8MB file.End up being charged RM98 for that
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It's not happen to all apps.. Just the apps that using Internet..

Is that expensive?? Pity for u dude..
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If we disable the pdp_ip0, will it solve the problem for the data network ? meaning that we cant go to internet ?
How could we make it permanently run after each reboot ?

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lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.5.113 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.5.255
ether 00:25:4b:6b:5c:fd
pdp_ip0: flags=8011<UP,POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1450
inet 10.176.238.146 --> 10.176.238.146 netmask 0xffffffff


from here we know that en0 is the wifi interface, pdp_ip0 would be the data network. am i right ?

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Paying for EDGE is super expensive. I seriously i cant bear the cost every single time.
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i am facing 1 problem here.i already off both 3G and data roaming feature on my iphone.but recently the new bill i received stated that i was using about 23mb of data and it cost me about RM200!!is it because i was using my edge to online?

i always only download or online when wifi is available,how do i know during online,i was really using my wifi connection instead or phone network to online?sometimes i saw wifi icon on the taskbar,sometimes i saw a little circle icon on my taskbar which i dont know what is that for also.

please help
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i am facing 1 problem here.i already off both 3G and data roaming feature on my iphone.but recently the new bill i received stated that i was using about 23mb of data and it cost me about RM200!!is it because i was using my edge to online?

i always only download or online when wifi is available,how do i know during online,i was really using my wifi connection instead or phone network to online?sometimes i saw wifi icon on the taskbar,sometimes i saw a little circle icon on my taskbar which i dont know what is that for also.

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Little circle is Egde. Both Edge and 3G will costs you a bomb if you have no contract or plan on Data.
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QUOTE(vui_msia @ Oct 19 2009, 11:00 AM)
Little circle is Egde. Both Edge and 3G will costs you a bomb if you have no contract or plan on Data.
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Yup, I am on IValue plan but I asked for itemized billing ... and here is the cost of 32mb of data used

Bill Snippet


To mods : I know I've posted this in another thread before, but some of the folks here might not have seen it, so I hope to just give them an idea on how expensive the data charges are and to be careful.

.. about RM 1 per 200KB




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QUOTE(vui_msia @ Oct 19 2009, 11:00 AM)
Little circle is Egde. Both Edge and 3G will costs you a bomb if you have no contract or plan on Data.
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then i think i fell into the trap already.i already install fakeAPN but the Edge still running abit.i will go install Bossprefs and turn off the edge.

i think 1MB data is rm10.my 23mb cost me about rm230 this month.what a wasted sad.gif

now i saw E edge icon on my dashboard.if using it make phone call is normal rate rite?abit worry now
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QUOTE(princess_autumn87 @ Oct 19 2009, 11:27 AM)
then i think i fell into the trap already.i already install fakeAPN but the Edge still running abit.i will go install Bossprefs and turn off the edge.

i think 1MB data is rm10.my 23mb cost me about rm230 this month.what a wasted sad.gif

now i saw E edge icon on my dashboard.if using it make phone call is normal rate rite?abit worry now
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Just to let you know, if you have turned on fakeApn.. you will still see the E or 3G icon at the top of your phone.. just that you won't be able to send/receive any data via E/3G .. so please take note that the presence of the icon doesn't mean that fakeAPN isn't working.

Best way to test, is to open a small website or open App store and see if it loads.. if it doesn't, then you are safe.
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The best way is call maxis center n blacklist 3g service for ur no....u can unblacklist it once u need it...
At my house n office got wifi so no prob for me to blacklist mine
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 19 2009, 11:18 AM)
Yup, I am on IValue plan but I asked for itemized billing ... and here is the cost of 32mb of data used

Bill Snippet
To mods : I know I've posted this in another thread before, but some of the folks here might not have seen it, so I hope to just give them an idea on how expensive the data charges are and to be careful.

.. about RM 1 per 200KB
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where the 32mb item ?

i saw the 187 being rebated only

thats why i curious why people prefer to buy iphone with no data plan as the pay per use is so espensive ... 1mb for RM10 ...

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@Ken,
Close to the left (or rather in the middle of that same line) total data usage is stated.

Also, Maxis charges for data services are 1sen/kb but for those on plans, it's 0.5sen/kb.

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Even you sign up for any iValue plan, you still wont be able to track how much you have use until you receive the bill.

You can personally try to call maxis and they wont be able to tell you how much data you have download/upload. All you can do is wait till you receive your bill and rely on the usage report (50% accurate) and "pray" that you have not exceed the limits for which ever plan you sign up.

I really hope they can improve this to allow us check. Is it so hard for them to have this service for such a big name company like Maxis?

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It's a conspiracy theory on my part, but perhaps the lack of a "tracking" system is to let us go overzealous on our data usage and get charged a hefty sum? (As I said, it could be just me)


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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 19 2009, 05:14 PM)
It's a conspiracy theory on my part, but perhaps the lack of a "tracking" system is to let us go overzealous on our data usage and get charged a hefty sum? (As I said, it could be just me)
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yes, the pay per use is so espensive ... 1MB is RM10 ...
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I was charged RM8 while browsing through facebook through EDGE on a 2 minutes session :/
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its also hard just to trace how much ive been using my data also. but i guess im pretty lucky since ive register for 500mb per month. i think i never exceed the 500mb eventhou i frequently use for surfing the net/youtube(on a moderate level) and using gps most of the time....
can our local apps developer develop sort of data tracer and collaborate with maxis about this? at least we know how much we're using every month.

even thou got cellular data on settings>general>usage, but its still kindda blurry and once u restore.... (like i did a couple of times....) i lost count of how much ive used and that's kindda irritates me a bit...
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yeap truee..

got a cases to share here n wanna ask u guys opinion..

my subline is using iphone.btw its a non-contract 3g phne. n she did online via wifi only.unfortunately maxis still charge on the data usage on the 1st mnth after using the iphone..its bout 150++ n she did not use any 3g connection to go on the net..so i call the customer service at 123..wishing to disconnect the 3g service for the main line n subline...to be safe, she also disable the 3g from the setting of the phne.

ok..life goes on that month.

the 2nd motnh

ok, hrmm when the bill for the 2nd month (2nd month of subline using iphne), the freaking maxis still charge on the data call and its stil bout 130++..
i decided to go to maxis service centre at taman tun..after talking to a nice lady there.she mentioned to me, whenever any wireless connection is low, even the signals on the iphne shows 2 bar, it will automatically switch n connect to 3g service to surf the net smoothly. it must be 3 full bar for you not being charged using the wireless.. then i ask her, how bout if i have disconnected the 3g service (remember wat i did on the previous month) n she replied an answer that shocked to me mentioning that, even though u have dscnncted the 3g service, because the phone is 'so' intelligent, it will automatically enable the 3g that has been disconnected and connect to net through the service..so disconnecting ur 3g service is not a solution.thats y we have data package for contract phne (cehh). By the way, i cant see any termination of 3g service for ur accounts since may 2008 (damn you 1st maxis guy. he didnt terminate the 3g)...

next, i ask the solution..she mentioned to me 2 things :

1) if u scared to go online with being charge, enable ur airplane mode during wifi connection.with that ur net its 100% depends on the wireless.however, if u enable airplane mode during surfing, u are not able to receive/make calls, sms n etc as it blocks ur network.

2) jailbreak ur iphne, find a software name bosspref.there is a setting to disable 3g. (this is a proper solution).

im gonna JB soon n sees what happens...


so guyss..any thought??

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jz a word....
if u onli intend to use it for wifi...ipod touch will do...
u don need iphone...
the purpose of iphone is having all in one....
and u can online on the go....

really don see a purpose of owning an iphone if u don intend to hav mobile access at all (not jz wifi), my 2cents.
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iphone always connect to 3G or EDGE when we go web browsing?anyway we can set just detect wifi around us?
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QUOTE(kakikukaku @ Oct 20 2009, 12:59 AM)
1) if u scared to go online with being charge, enable ur airplane mode during wifi connection.with that ur net its 100% depends on the wireless.however, if u enable airplane mode during surfing, u are not able to receive/make calls, sms n etc as it blocks ur network.

2) jailbreak ur iphne, find a software name bosspref.there is a setting to disable 3g. (this is a proper solution).

im gonna JB soon n sees what happens...
so guyss..any thought??
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I tried no 1, your data still jalan.

no 2, even you off 3g & edge , data also jalan (im using iphone 3g, fw 3.1.2 JB) - the best way - subs to data service smile.gif


QUOTE(loumou @ Oct 20 2009, 05:03 PM)
iphone always connect to 3G or EDGE when we go web browsing?anyway we can set just detect wifi around us?
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turn to airplane mode or... get an ipod smile.gif


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QUOTE(vui_msia @ Oct 19 2009, 11:00 AM)
Little circle is Egde. Both Edge and 3G will costs you a bomb if you have no contract or plan on Data.
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sorry for interruption. to clarify on those who didnt know,

3G sign after your carrier name means you're on 3G network
E for edge
and small o is for GPRS.



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to some gentlemen out there...

Seriously....do some reading 1st....
at least from here
http://www.apple.com/iphone/how-to/
before u give mislead info to others...


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By far, the best method is still to put in fake APN information, that will ensure your 3g data is not used..

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QUOTE(kakikukaku @ Oct 20 2009, 12:59 AM)
i decided to go to maxis service centre at taman tun..after talking to a nice lady there.she mentioned to me, whenever any wireless connection is low, even the signals on the iphne shows 2 bar, it will automatically switch n connect to 3g service to surf the net smoothly. it must be 3 full bar for you not being charged using the wireless.. then i ask her, how bout if i have disconnected the 3g service (remember wat i did on the previous month) n she replied an answer that shocked to me mentioning that, even though u have dscnncted the 3g service, because the phone is 'so' intelligent, it will automatically enable the 3g that has been disconnected and connect to net through the service..so disconnecting ur 3g service is not a solution.thats y we have data package for contract phne (cehh). By the way, i cant see any termination of 3g service for ur accounts since may 2008 (damn you 1st maxis guy. he didnt terminate the 3g)...
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NOT TRUE. once disable, the 3G will not self enable back. It is probably GPRS that is trigger when the wifi signal is low. Can see by the signal 'o' , instead of 3G , besides the carrier logo.


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QUOTE(wayne78 @ Oct 15 2009, 08:18 PM)
3g usage will increase even those u off the edge/3g but it only increase very very little....

i'm on unlimited plan cause 3gb not even enough cause i'm heave user.... in a week i can used up to 4gb that stated in iphone but as we not iphone usage r not accurate....

so for those who din use unlimited plan pls bear in mind always off ur 3g or edge, non-jailbreak iphone user have to becareful...
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4GB / week is ok if you Tethering. Seriously, i find it hard to reach my 30GB of data per month without Tethering.

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QUOTE(kakikukaku @ Oct 20 2009, 12:59 AM)
yeap truee..

got a cases to share here n wanna ask u guys opinion..

my subline is using iphone.btw its a non-contract 3g phne. n she did online via wifi only.unfortunately maxis still charge on the data usage on the 1st mnth after using the iphone..its bout 150++ n she did not use any 3g connection to go on the net..so i call the customer service at 123..wishing to disconnect the 3g service for the main line n subline...to be safe, she also disable the 3g from the setting of the phne.

ok..life goes on that month.

the 2nd motnh

ok, hrmm when the bill for the 2nd month (2nd month of subline using iphne), the freaking maxis still charge on the data call and its stil bout 130++..
i decided to go to maxis service centre at taman tun..after talking to a nice lady there.she mentioned to me, whenever any wireless connection is low, even the signals on the iphne shows 2 bar, it will automatically switch n connect to 3g service to surf the net smoothly. it must be 3 full bar for you not being charged using the wireless.. then i ask her, how bout if i have disconnected the 3g service (remember wat i did on the previous month) n she replied an answer that shocked to me mentioning that, even though u have dscnncted the 3g service, because the phone is 'so' intelligent, it will automatically enable the 3g that has been disconnected and connect to net through the service..so disconnecting ur 3g service is not a solution.thats y we have data package for contract phne (cehh). By the way, i cant see any termination of 3g service for ur accounts since may 2008 (damn you 1st maxis guy. he didnt terminate the 3g)...

next, i ask the solution..she mentioned to me 2 things :

1) if u scared to go online with being charge, enable ur airplane mode during wifi connection.with that ur net its 100% depends on the wireless.however, if u enable airplane mode during surfing, u are not able to receive/make calls, sms n etc as it blocks ur network.

No la bro mine oredi blacklist my 3g service n oni wifi at home n office... No data being charged to me....dont ask for disable but ask for blaxklist

2) jailbreak ur iphne, find a software name bosspref.there is a setting to disable 3g. (this is a proper solution).

im gonna JB soon n sees what happens...
so guyss..any thought??
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Oct 20 2009, 07:31 PM)

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No la bro mine oredi blacklist my 3g service n oni wifi at home n office... No data being charged to me....dont ask for disable but ask for blaxklist

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i wanan ask u guys, my plan states free 500MB does it mean i add up total received MB and total sent MB?
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Oct 20 2009, 07:31 PM)

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No la bro mine oredi blacklist my 3g service n oni wifi at home n office... No data being charged to me....dont ask for disable but ask for blaxklist
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what is the point of having a smartphone if there is no 24/7 connection doh.gif ... quite a number of apps require your location to be pin-point, for example when you looking for a petrol station/restaurant/clinic/ bus stop ..etc ...in the vicinity.

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yeap..true..


but for those who only connects to net via wireless..is there any solution to this prob?
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@kakikukaku,
tnsai oredi answered ur question. Put in a fake APN or a fake profile to disable data services.

@Mackiddo,
When on earth are U? U have 30GB limit of data usage on your mobile ?! That certainly is a huge amount!
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 20 2009, 06:30 PM)
By far, the best method is still to put in fake APN information, that will ensure your 3g data is not used..
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i've used this. however i still can see my data counter increasing.
mind u im using fw 3.1.2 with i3gs

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No la bro mine oredi blacklist my 3g service n oni wifi at home n office... No data being charged to me....dont ask for disable but ask for blaxklist
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how to blakclist ? if blacklist, later on when we pop up the simkad into another fon and try to make video call can or not ? celcom can do that ?

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QUOTE(nVidiaFX @ Oct 20 2009, 08:53 PM)
i wanan ask u guys, my plan states free 500MB does it mean i add up total received MB and total sent MB?
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total sent and received.
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QUOTE(ctzalifah @ Oct 21 2009, 08:48 AM)
i've used this. however i still can see my data counter increasing.
mind u im using fw 3.1.2 with i3gs
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Hmm that is quite weird.

After turning on FakeAPn, can you double check in your

Settings --> General --> Network --> Cellular Data Network ?(If you do not have this menu, it means you need to install the respective IPCC file for your IPhone, else fakeAPN would not work for you)


and see what are the settings for


Cellular Data

APN :

MMS

APN:

if FakeAPn is working correctly you will see fake.unet (for maxis) in both those fields..



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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 20 2009, 11:56 PM)
@kakikukaku,
tnsai oredi answered ur question.  Put in a fake APN or a fake profile to disable data services.

@Mackiddo,
When on earth are U?  U have 30GB limit of data usage on your mobile ?! That certainly is a huge amount!
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 20 2009, 06:30 PM)
By far, the best method is still to put in fake APN information, that will ensure your 3g data is not used..
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I thought we turn off the 3G and data roaming, it will not enable the maxis 3G data already, right?
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I thought we turn off the 3G and data roaming, it will not enable the maxis 3G data already, right?
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It will just redirect itself to use Edge or GPRS.. Remember, the 3G on and off button is there for you to turn off the 3G connection for battery saving, it doesn't turn off the ability to connect online via other protocols.. IPhone being as smart as it is, will kick in to the other available options.. changing the APN settings ensure that even those protocols would not be able to go online.

Give it a try, turn off 3G and attempt to use something that uses internet.. you will see a "E" icon next to your signal bar
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 21 2009, 05:42 PM)
It will just redirect itself to use Edge or GPRS.. Remember, the 3G on and off button is there for you to turn off the 3G connection for battery saving, it doesn't turn off the ability to connect online via other protocols.. IPhone being as smart as it is, will kick in to the other available options.. changing the APN settings ensure that even those protocols would not be able to go online.

Give it a try, turn off 3G and attempt to use something that uses internet.. you will see a "E" icon next to your signal bar
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not just iphone, all phone is....switch to next available protocol...
don ever think onli iphone is smart biggrin.gif

as say...if so worry of using cellular network on iPhone OS, better off use ipod touch...
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@Mackiddo,
But 30GB of data service? Gee with that kinda amount u don't need to bother to connect to Wifi smile.gif

@ryan_giggs,
Switching 3G off doesn't disable data services; it just turns off 3G.
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Oct 21 2009, 06:33 PM)
not just iphone, all phone is....switch to next available protocol...
don ever think onli iphone is smart  biggrin.gif

as say...if so worry of using cellular network on iPhone OS, better off use ipod touch...
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Hehehe...no ma....i think the charge for data rate is quite expensive for 3G.....that's y plan to cancel the data plan once my contract finish.... tongue.gif


How to change to fake APN? Can teach step by step ah?Will change to fake APN will not impact our phone connectivitiy or software in iphone? hmm.gif

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@ryan_giggs,
You can continue with some form of data plan when your current contract ends; also it's not going to end soon plus by the time it ends, you'll be so used to having the world at ur finger tips U probably don't want to let go of 3G.

As to how to change APN, please refer to the pinned threads.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 22 2009, 09:03 AM)
@ryan_giggs,
You can continue with some form of data plan when your current contract ends; also it's not going to end soon plus by the time it ends, you'll be so used to having the world at ur finger tips U probably don't want to let go of 3G.

As to how to change APN, please refer to the pinned threads.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281
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Hahaha.......you are right, bro! I'm so get to use 3G now and i think by the time i finish the contract, i cannot live without 3G tongue.gif

Thanks for the APN link! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ryan_giggs @ Oct 22 2009, 09:06 AM)
Hahaha.......you are right, bro! I'm so get to use 3G now and i think by the time i finish the contract, i cannot live without 3G tongue.gif

Thanks for the APN link! biggrin.gif
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once you have read this, you can go ahead and make my post go invisible nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Oct 21 2009, 06:33 PM)
not just iphone, all phone is....switch to next available protocol...
don ever think onli iphone is smart  biggrin.gif

as say...if so worry of using cellular network on iPhone OS, better off use ipod touch...
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Sigh, it's not the fear of using cellular network on IPhone, it is to allow us to control our usage.. even if so.. I got money, I like, I buy the Iphone.. what's it to you??

Can the IPod touch make calls? can it sms??? yawn.gif no? Does it have GPS? no? So, just leave your own comments to yourself.
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changing apn means cant retrieve/send mms also?
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Maxis has done it again, over billing me for data usage eventhough i am on the RM88 plan and I am well below the usage. Apparently I did not activate the plan when I called them last time, of which I am 100% certain that I did because I made sure the CS repeated the confirmation. Right now, I am waiting for their manager to call me back. This is too much. Been a loyal customer of Maxis for 8 years and this is the kind of shit I get.

The 1st time this happened was in July when I activated the RM99 unlimited package (discontinued since) and overcharged for July, Aug and Sept because apparently it was not activated when I called up in Sept to ask about my bill. To cut a long story short, I told them to check back their voice recordings and the result of that was, they refunded me RM400 plus for overpayment.

I am not a person that checks the bill every month but from now one, I will because of what they are doing and how their stupid system works!
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 22 2009, 09:42 AM)
Sigh, it's not the fear of using cellular network on IPhone, it is to allow us to control our usage.. even if so.. I got  money, I like, I buy the Iphone.. what's it to you??

Can the IPod touch make calls? can it sms??? yawn.gif no? Does it have GPS? no? So, just leave your  own comments to yourself.
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tats the thing dude...

u want mobility, get iphone...it connects u anytime....control? control urself....get a tool for tat or manage urself..

jz as a game device? itouch works fine, and don need worry about paying bill...call/sms? jz get a cheap phone will do...

depends wat ur requirement....i jz don see a point y one keep complaining of the connectivity since this is why an iphone worth to buy for...

if u think i offending u for this...then i ll remain silent after this....

for general iphone user wannabe...think before u buy...if u want the connection, stop piss about the connection...i don mind u piss Maxis for the plan rate tot tongue.gif
but it still cheaper compare to celcom!
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Oct 22 2009, 12:00 PM)
tats the thing dude...

u want mobility, get iphone...it connects u anytime....control? control urself....get a tool for tat or manage urself..

jz as a game device? itouch works fine, and don need worry about paying bill...call/sms? jz get a cheap phone will do...

depends wat ur requirement....i jz don see a point y one keep complaining of the connectivity since this is why an iphone worth to buy for...

if u think i offending u for this...then i ll remain silent after this....

for general iphone user wannabe...think before u buy...if u want the connection, stop piss about the connection...i don mind u piss Maxis for the plan rate tot tongue.gif
but it still cheaper compare to celcom!
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I don't get what you are on about, I never complained on the connectivity of the IPhone etc.. In fact I like that it keeps looking for the connection I want to access the net when I WANT IT TO. I am just offering my help to people who wants to control their usage hence I advice the use of fake APN settings.

We ARE all pissing about the plan rate, not so much about the IPhone's connection and hence people are looking for a way to make sure they don't overuse.

Learn to read please.


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I would say, the phone should not take the blame as it work in the way it should be. But instead, the problems came from the data plan.

Nowadays, people are going for ALL-IN-ONE device where by it save your time and hassle. What is the point of bringing an iPod & Nokia 3310 together where u got the opportunity of having an iPhone that can do all the thing right.. wink.gif

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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 22 2009, 09:42 AM)
. even if so.. I got  money, I like, I buy the Iphone.. what's it to you??


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I totally agreed on this. I'm a suckers on Apple stuff and the list is growing.
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lol... MAXIS really never improve one..

I was a Maxis 3G unlimited user too (after i get my iphone 3G in Aug '08).. and the same thing happened to me.
I chose the Value 50 + 99 unlimited plan, so, after adding the 5% service tax, the 1st month bill came out immediately exceed RM150 credit limit and they barred my phone.

I called to them immediately and scolded the operator "hard hard".. then only they increased my credit limit to RM200...

Anyway, I shifted to Celcom's Executive 20 plan + RM98 unlimited data plan in Dec '08 as it is cheaper to me..  rolleyes.gif
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i want to know...
i want to take the ivalue 100 which the iphone 3gs will cost 1990..
if i dont even use the maxis number, do i will be charged more than 100??
have anyone experience that??
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@ichuck,
If U don't use, meaning you're going to forgo the entire RM100 p/month for the duration of the contract, it is cheaper for U to buy the phone at a higher price from the 'black market'.

And to answer ur question, U will be charged RM100 + whatsoever Value Added Service u added + 5% GST so ur bill will probably come to about RM100+
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 23 2009, 03:40 PM)
@ichuck,
If U don't use, meaning you're going to forgo the entire RM100 p/month for the duration of the contract, it is cheaper for U to buy the phone at a higher price from the 'black market'.

And to answer ur question, U will be charged RM100 + whatsoever Value Added Service u added + 5% GST so ur bill will probably come to about RM100+
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then is there anyway to completely disable 3g/EDGE,,
so that i will not be charge for excessive used.?
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@ichuck,
The Value Added Services I mention are things like itemised billing, etc. Yes it is possible to completely turn of data services on the iPhone.
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im not so clear about the value added service??
is it the overuse of the call sms and wht so ever?
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@ichuck,
No, if U don't intend to use the line at all then u won't haf to worry about overuse of call charges and SMS charges, etc. It is things like call forwarding, call waiting, itemised billing, etc. Just cancel those and I think your bill should be RM100+5% GST.
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@ichuck,
No, if U don't intend to use the line at all then u won't haf to worry about overuse of call charges and SMS charges, etc.  It is things like call forwarding, call waiting, itemised billing, etc.  Just cancel those and I think your bill should be RM100+5% GST.
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owh i see..
what abot if i used it?
not included the 3g..
i will definitely don want to use the 3g service...
cuz im afraid to be charged xtra for that..
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@ichuck,
As part of the iValue plans, if U don't use more than what is given to U then no need to pay extra. If you use extra then U just haf to pay.
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now digi 3g have a new unlimited plan for rm48 (3 gig data, after 3gig limit will throttle down to gprs/edge, no more any excess charges)... times to change to digi, lolz.....but only available in Penang and Kota Kinabalu for the time being.... Klang Valley not yet available....

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QUOTE(zdongdongz @ Oct 24 2009, 11:22 AM)
now digi 3g have a new unlimited plan for rm48 (3 gig data, after 3gig limit will throttle down to gprs/edge, no more any excess charges)... times to change to digi, lolz.....but only available in Penang and Kota Kinabalu for the time being.... Klang Valley not yet available....
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sabar.... biggrin.gif

tats y i sign for 1 year....
bcoz even digi wanna roll out phone+data in 3G, they hav a lot to do yet...
wont so fast....
1 year later see how...
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@dinozilla,
1 year later U'll be thinking of getting the new iPhone and then once again get stuck with Maxis tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 24 2009, 01:32 PM)
@dinozilla,
1 year later U'll be thinking of getting the new iPhone and then once again get stuck with Maxis tongue.gif
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lol....tengok dulu....

as said lo....i m hoping digi can do well enof in integrating the 3G network, and start to expand it...
then compete head to head with Celcom 3G and Maxis 3G
i sincerely believe they can offer competitive pricing if they can...

also iPhone exclusivity is ending...
who knows Digi can secure a contract with apple on next iphone and offer a better-than-maxis package? *cross finger*
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Unless U happen to work with Maxis or Apple, how would U know the iPhone exclusivity is ending here in MY? Also, even if it's not something on contract, the other telco players will want to invest in it. Honestly, I don't think DiGi will bring in the iPhone *shrugs*

Ah well..... the faster DiGi gets their infrastructure up nationwide, the sooner it can compete and the better it is for us consumers smile.gif
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I have an issue here. I am using Iphone 3gs with Firmware 3.1.2 with the iValue plan 155.

I've just registered 2 days ago and received the sim card on the same day. After using the data service, I checked the unbilled ammount and it was RM129. after that, I check the usage in my Iphone and its just 68mb within these 2 days. Can anyone tell me is the RM129 is included in the 1gb free data service for the iValue plan 155 or is my phone going nuts as I have not use up to 1gb data yet =.=

Any help?
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QUOTE(shoonyee89 @ Oct 24 2009, 06:51 PM)
I have an issue here. I am using Iphone 3gs with Firmware 3.1.2 with the iValue plan 155.

I've just registered 2 days ago and received the sim card on the same day. After using the data service, I checked the unbilled ammount and it was RM129. after that, I check the usage in my Iphone and its just 68mb within these 2 days. Can anyone tell me is the RM129 is included in the 1gb free data service for the iValue plan 155 or is my phone going nuts as I have not use up to 1gb data yet =.=

Any help?
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It will be calculated base on usage and at the end of the billing cycle it will then be deducted from your data allowance. The data calculation is based on the total amount of upload and download. Is your 68mb data inclusive of upload too? If it is, then there is a wide margin of gap between data calculation of iPhone and that of Maxis shakehead.gif

Visit Maxis Center to seek clarification to this nod.gif Don't waste your time calling the customer care center.

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 24 2009, 06:54 PM)
It will be calculated base on usage and at the end of the billing cycle it will then be deducted from your data allowance. The data calculation is based on the total amount of upload and download. Is your 68mb data inclusive of upload too? If it is, then there is a wide margin of gap between data calculation of iPhone and that of Maxis  shakehead.gif

Visit Maxis Center to seek clarification to this  nod.gif Don't waste your time calling the customer care center.
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Thanks.. I check and it's just the data receiv. I've called customer service and they can't do anything. I said to clarify by goin to the maxis centre but they say it's the same and ask me to wait for the bill to arrive. Sigh.

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Thanks.. I check and it's just the data receiv. I've called customer service and they can't do anything. I said to clarify by goin to the maxis centre but they say it's the same and ask me to wait for the bill to arrive. Sigh.
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ya.. same goes to my 1st month... 1 week then i'm over my credit limit which is 200mb.. coz i tried using tethering with iPhone.. so i thought i overused it that day.. but my usage still below 400mb
when the bill comes it said i used 590mb... they charging me rm100+ for the 90mb.... zzzz
I can't check when i overused or how i overused it... so I just becareful this month and keep on checking my balance and data usage... ><"
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QUOTE(shoonyee89 @ Oct 24 2009, 06:51 PM)
I have an issue here. I am using Iphone 3gs with Firmware 3.1.2 with the iValue plan 155.

I've just registered 2 days ago and received the sim card on the same day. After using the data service, I checked the unbilled ammount and it was RM129. after that, I check the usage in my Iphone and its just 68mb within these 2 days. Can anyone tell me is the RM129 is included in the 1gb free data service for the iValue plan 155 or is my phone going nuts as I have not use up to 1gb data yet =.=

Any help?
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u use the data service right after u get the phone and insert the sim card?

i get on friday 8pm and the staff told me my i data plan 1 only activated after 12 pm on saturday ... before 12pm is pay per use, which is 1Mb = RM10
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QUOTE(Ken @ Oct 25 2009, 12:57 PM)
u use the data service right after u get the phone and insert the sim card?

i get on friday 8pm and the staff told me my i data plan 1 only activated after 12 pm on saturday ... before 12pm is pay per use, which is 1Mb = RM10
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i don't understand why the telco can't simply activate the data plan together with the sim card.
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i don't understand why the telco can't simply activate the data plan together with the sim card.
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may be it is a batch process and the system update in certain time only ...

for any people that not yet get the iphone with plan, once u get the phone, call the maxis CS first, verify the data plan is activated then only start use the data service ... else 1mb for RM10 is very costly and first day can reach RM100 cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Ken @ Oct 25 2009, 12:57 PM)
u use the data service right after u get the phone and insert the sim card?

i get on friday 8pm and the staff told me my i data plan 1 only activated after 12 pm on saturday ... before 12pm is pay per use, which is 1Mb = RM10
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1MB = Rm 10?!?!!!!!

I was on wifi all the while and i thought i have did steps to deactivate the data usage. i just check, blardy 12mb!!! so rm 120?!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(honkit @ Oct 26 2009, 10:12 PM)
1MB = Rm 10?!?!!!!!

I was on wifi all the while and i thought i have did steps to deactivate the data usage. i just check, blardy 12mb!!! so rm 120?!!!!!!!!!
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if it wasn't activated since u used up the 12MB....yes...

and...its data sent + received
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QUOTE(honkit @ Oct 26 2009, 10:12 PM)
1MB = Rm 10?!?!!!!!

I was on wifi all the while and i thought i have did steps to deactivate the data usage. i just check, blardy 12mb!!! so rm 120?!!!!!!!!!
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what 'steps' have you taken to deactivate the data coz disabling 3G does not mean disabling the data access. And yes, 12mb = RM120 if you are not on the data plan shocking.gif

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im wondering, if im on 3g, how much beejive or im app will sent received data? does it gonna cost like 10mb for 1hour of usage?
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i used on fb all nights just used up around 15mb (including upload)
so i guess if beejive or other im should be around like that too....

btw... just checked my balance... this month my pay is stick with 100... but i only used not more than 300mb.. a bit of wasted the remaining data i have but atleast i'm saved from overcharged this time = ="
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Oct 27 2009, 12:51 PM)
im wondering, if im on 3g, how much beejive or im app will sent received data? does it gonna cost like 10mb for 1hour of usage?
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contrary to many believes, IMs and e-mails take a very low chunk of your data allowance.

i was able to survive on blackberry's 8MB plan a month (without exceeding it) if i adhere religiously to IMs and e-mails

hence definitely not 10MB/hour; that's ludicrous
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QUOTE(ffmichael @ Oct 27 2009, 01:06 PM)
i used on fb all nights just used up around 15mb (including upload)
so i guess if beejive or other im should be around like that too....

btw... just checked my balance... this month my pay is stick with 100... but i only used not more than 300mb.. a bit of wasted the remaining data i have but atleast i'm saved from overcharged this time = ="
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thats why tinkerbel mention before, as long as not heavy download using the phone, normal usage wont exceed the data allowed ...
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Beware for maxis data plan!i subscribe for ivalue 1 which allow 500mb of free data.end of biiling date show,iphone 3gs's usage for upload and download less than 200mb.But received addtional data usage of over rm300 for over usage.2 trip to maxis center still did not solve the issue.barred my phone twice.but pay only minimum to reopen the line.This is the feedback i received from maxis service personnel-
Apple iphone's data usage meter is only 75% accurate!

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QUOTE(lleihuan @ Oct 28 2009, 10:37 AM)

Apple iphone's data usage meter is only 75% accurate!
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that is at their best tongue.gif ...
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look like they only can claim and blame other people and they correct for me the phone did well and they are Wrong.

is so dangerous to use Maxis line... dam i wanna get 1 iphone and hav to wait 1 year to switch back to digi. OMG LOL.

btw iphone 4g already have news. so next year can see new phone come out. from iphone.
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Throw the question to maxis,how are we going to know the data usage for the ivalue1 plan if they claim apple 3gs's data meter usage is not accurate?
For me,500 mb is a lot for retrieving email.

Guys,any idea how to know how much data usage is use on the iphone?


Migrate from Digi just because of the iphone!
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QUOTE(lleihuan @ Oct 29 2009, 09:12 AM)
Throw the question to maxis,how are we going to know the data usage for the ivalue1 plan if they claim apple 3gs's data meter usage is not accurate?
For me,500 mb is a lot for retrieving email.

Guys,any idea how to know how much data usage is use on the iphone?
Migrate from Digi just because of the iphone!
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you can check from the phone menu itself .. Settings --> General --> Usage

My usage is normally around 1GB / month and that's already consider heavy ..without any tethering ...

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hi there,

i seem to have the same issue..btw i am a HOTLINK prepaid user..frankly speaking i am not the type of person that calls / sms / browse via iphone.. but i only do if i do have wifi access..but it seems to be they are still charging me on my credits even i use wifi.. 30buck of prepaid within 4days.. this is insane..and i have check the usage meter it indicates that a few mb's..

any idea how to reslove the issue? i have went and spoke to the maxis ppl in Pyramid few weeks back..they said "this is normal mah... Iphone always like this.."


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i think, the only solution is, turn off both edge and 3g? but to turn off edge, must jb 1st rite?
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Oct 29 2009, 03:23 PM)
i think, the only solution is, turn off both edge and 3g? but to turn off edge, must jb 1st rite?
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Yep, best way is to put garbage in the APN settings.. as even if you can't turn off edge.. it still can't access anything.. you can do it manually, so no JB needed (provided you installed the carrier bundle)
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the Best is to subscribe all you can eat plan.... (unlimited usage)
I am pretty happy with Digi.. everymonth I am chewing around 1.6GB of Data.... email , exchange and bla blabla
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one lesson i learnt , do not eneable data roaming when you oversea... i forgot to turn off when i was in SG, only for 1 day... my Data /exchange mail made my phone bil a bomb !!! whooping 4900++ RM ... i nearly cried..


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.. Settings --> General --> Usage on the iphone consider as unrealiable.that is according to maxis customer support. say something like 65% accurate!
cannot answer back when ask to them,where to monitor?
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QUOTE(lleihuan @ Oct 29 2009, 05:06 PM)
.. Settings --> General --> Usage on the iphone consider as unrealiable.that is according to maxis customer support. say something like 65% accurate!
cannot answer back when ask to them,where to monitor?
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Actually I've questioned them back, why is it that in the bill they can clearly see my data usage but they can't tell me/allow me to check what my data usage is..

Their reply is " we don't offer such a service" ... makes me wonder, how then do we monitor our usage, if they claim the IPhone one is unreliable.. or maybe that is the whole point.
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 29 2009, 05:13 PM)
Actually I've questioned them back, why is it that in the bill they can clearly see my data usage but they can't tell me/allow me to check what my data usage is..

Their reply is " we don't offer such a service" ... makes me wonder, how then do we monitor our usage, if they claim the IPhone one is unreliable.. or maybe that is the whole point.
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reason can be:

1) Maxis CS is useless, can't even do simple thing

2) jz like Apple not yet enable the RF chip in 3Gs, Maxis know they can check for you, but no officially support yet...so no service.

3) We are betting on a wrong Telco, who cant even able to track ur data usage for u
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QUOTE(lleihuan @ Oct 29 2009, 05:06 PM)
.. Settings --> General --> Usage on the iphone consider as unrealiable.that is according to maxis customer support. say something like 65% accurate!
cannot answer back when ask to them,where to monitor?
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do you believe apple or maxis ? the answer is obvious.
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Oct 29 2009, 05:24 PM)
reason can be:

1) Maxis CS is useless, can't even do simple thing

2) jz like Apple not yet enable the RF chip in 3Gs, Maxis know they can check for you, but no officially support yet...so no service.

3) We are betting on a wrong Telco, who cant even able to track ur data usage for u
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So, in conclusion, Maxis sucks, right? hehe

Seriously though they need to revamp that crappy web account management thing that they have... it is pretty much useless..
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QUOTE(ilyas_jamal @ Oct 29 2009, 12:10 PM)
hi there,

and i have check the usage meter it indicates that a few mb's..

any idea how to reslove the issue? i have went and spoke to the maxis ppl in Pyramid few weeks back..they said "this is normal mah... Iphone always like this.."
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the usage meter is never wrong. you either receiving/sending the data by 3G, gprs or EDGE. Did you disable not only 3G but gprs/EDGE as well ?


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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 29 2009, 03:32 PM)
Yep, best way is to put garbage in the APN settings.. as even if you can't turn off edge.. it still can't access anything.. you can do it manually, so no JB needed (provided you installed the carrier bundle)
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sadly, not many ppl play attention to this, clueless on how data transfer actually works. Instead only disable 3G and forgot about gprs/EDGE. Maxis is also partly to be blame for not telling users this.

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@tnsai,
R u still having billing issues with Maxis on your data charges? It's been 2 months since I've swapped over from an Unlimited Plan to a 500MB data plan and I haven't had any issues whatsoever with over billing.

Also, the counter on my iPhone sure seems rather accurate; unlike what other forummers here are stipulating *shrugs*
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 29 2009, 06:57 PM)
@tnsai,
R u still having billing issues with Maxis on your data charges?  It's been 2 months since I've swapped over from an Unlimited Plan to a 500MB data plan and I haven't had any issues whatsoever with over billing.

Also, the counter on my iPhone sure seems rather accurate; unlike what other forummers here are stipulating *shrugs*
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Nah no problems so far, I just don't like how they don't allow us to check our data usage by calling them, seeing as how it is shown in my bill, accurate to the KB tongue.gif

I just got a feeling it is them denying us the knowledge of our data usage , so as to let us have a higher chance of overusing it.. but I could be just being paranoid..
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After approximate of 1 month usage, i found that is quite hard for me to used up to 30mb bandwidth out 500mb per month that maxis provided. Im doing normal stuffs eg, ping!, IM, surfing, FB and etc, of cause i rarely use GPS.

Was wandering how come some user can hogged up 500mb in a day or two..
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@fylon,
If you use it to Internet Tether and start downloading stuff, 500MB is definitely not enough! For me, I have yet to breach the 100MB mark since I started using the iPhone smile.gif
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@tinkerbel
Thats true. Found that the 500mb is actually more then enough for purely mobile internet access. Of cause excluded tethering & heavy down.

But since we are already been told by provider about the limit of the package before we signed, one have to have be caution when using it.

Btw, did the iphone cellular network data counter counts the bandwidth that been tethered out too?
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@fylon,
As long as U are on data services it calculates it for U smile.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 30 2009, 10:54 AM)
I have yet to breach the 100MB mark since I started using the iPhone smile.gif
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Lol same, I've actually been more actively using the net this month.. right now my usage stands at about 80mb..

I had about 50mb usage before i restored my phone.. 32mb of that is paid for in the bill last month.. so I should have used about 100mb used

i'll see if that is reflected accurately when the bill comes..





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@tnsai,
Yup.. it makes me wonder, Y i was so ansty about it earlier - and a good thing too cause at least now I save some $ instead of paying RM99 to Maxis every month smile.gif
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if i subscribed to per month package, rm 58 from hotlink, do u think if i do :

email
normal surfing - 6 hours/day (estimate only.)
download from cydia,app store

should be enough for 500mb?
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noob here, cant download from itune first then only synch to iphone ?
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@Ken,
Yes of course u can do that. Please read through the pinned threads if you're a new user of the iPhone.

@saksoba,
I have my emails being checked 24/7, leave some IM applications switched on and do the routine internet browsing and 500MB is more than suffice. As to downloading apps from apple store, if the app is bigger than 10MB it won't be downloadable via the iPhone and most of the time, in order not to go beyond my limit, I leave those downloads for when i'm on wifi and not 3G.
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guys,

just a few question here. sorry if the question irritated you.

im planning to subscribe the 500MB / month for the data.
does it really enough 500MB for emails and FB?
estimate how much it take per day?
after calculate, roughly we can use 16MB per day, izit enuff?

i just scared it will caused overbilling issues since so many user had complain and faced the problems.

help me clarify please..
much appreciated. thank you
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if i want to browse internet but without usiing 3g/edge, will iphone always ask before we surt net?like showing wifi available near your area or they will direct connect to 3g/edge?
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QUOTE(iphoneiphone @ Nov 3 2009, 12:27 AM)
guys,

just a few question here. sorry if the question irritated you.

im planning to subscribe the 500MB / month for the data.
does it really enough 500MB for emails and FB?
estimate how much it take per day?
after calculate, roughly we can use 16MB per day, izit enuff?

i just scared it will caused overbilling issues since so many user had complain and faced the problems.

help me clarify please..
much appreciated. thank you
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As per tinkerbell said, it should be enough. Except, if u do tethering, i dont think 500mb is enough for u.

QUOTE(loumou @ Nov 3 2009, 10:56 AM)
guys,

if i want to browse internet but without usiing 3g/edge, will iphone always ask before we surt net?like showing wifi available near your area or they will direct connect to 3g/edge?
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IMHO, if u surf the net and there is available wifi near u, iphone will ask 1st. a popup will appear show available wifi n ask u to connect either one.
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Tinkerbell,
were you tied to maxis contract when you purchased the phone?
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Oct 30 2009, 02:52 PM)
if i subscribed to per month package, rm 58 from hotlink, do u think if i do :

email
normal surfing - 6 hours/day (estimate only.)
download from cydia,app store

should be enough for 500mb?
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how come u get rm58??
i check rm68 woooo...
how how..tell meee
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Nov 4 2009, 01:08 AM)
how come u get rm58??
i check rm68 woooo...
how how..tell meee
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woohoo, got a bill for RM 1075.51 for data usage... 113,086 KB !!! How should i complain bro...
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QUOTE(sideways @ Nov 4 2009, 10:59 AM)
woohoo, got a bill for RM 1075.51 for data usage... 113,086 KB !!! How should i complain bro...
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cool. They will block your line 1st, unless you pay up. It will remain blocked, until they finished checking every damn thing which they actually have no way of checking.

what's the usage shown on your phone btw ?

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woohoo, got a bill for RM 1075.51 for data usage... 113,086 KB !!! How should i complain bro...
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Would be good to tell us your data plan etc etc, so we can see if you can complain etc..
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i m wondering which plan should i choose(i m a digi customer)
i dont really know about the postpaid plan..the ivalue plan
it says free 333mins of talk time only maxis to maxis? which means if i make a call to digi i have to pay extra after the 100 i paid no matter if i used up 333 mins or not?
2.btw i m not a person who always call or sms..i just want the iphone for surfing the internet..
i hope u can help me and give me some opinion
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woohoo, got a bill for RM 1075.51 for data usage... 113,086 KB !!! How should i complain bro...
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The maximum charge for local data usage is up to RM250 only unless u gt use oversea data roaming

write an email or call them ba

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QUOTE(ericlks91 @ Nov 4 2009, 04:21 PM)
i m wondering which plan should i choose(i m a digi customer)
i dont really know about the postpaid plan..the ivalue plan
it says free 333mins of talk time only maxis to maxis? which means if i make a call to digi i have to pay extra after the 100 i paid no matter if i used up 333 mins or not?
2.btw i m not a person who always call or sms..i just want the iphone for surfing the internet..
i hope u can help me and give me some opinion
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The 333 minutes is not a free talk time between Maxis to Maxis. It is an estimated amount of time that is applicable under Ivalue Plan 1 based on the 15 cents/min rate and at the quota of RM50-50 for calls and data. The talk-time is not limited to calls made to Maxis only, you can make calls to Digi and Celcom and still being charged at 15 cents/minute.

However, do take note that SMS to other network providers will be charged on top of your RM100 commitment fee. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 4 2009, 08:03 PM)
The 333 minutes is not a free talk time between Maxis to Maxis. It is an estimated amount of time that is applicable under Ivalue Plan 1 based on the 15 cents/min rate and at the quota of RM50-50 for calls and data. The talk-time is not limited to calls made to Maxis only, you can make calls to Digi and Celcom and still being charged at 15 cents/minute.

However, do take note that SMS to other network providers will be charged on top of your RM100 commitment fee.  smile.gif
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rm50-50 for calls and data?????/ meaning that if i only used rm30 on data but rm 60 on calls , eventually i have to pay rm110?
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EDIT
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Nov 4 2009, 09:16 AM)
Attached Image

Maybe for processing? LOL. Dun remember.  tongue.gif
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i think that one is old one?
http://www.hotlink.com.my/web/portal/hotli..._Internet_SA_en

says rm68
the pic u uploaded is for maxis postpaid not for hotlink cry.gif

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Sorry. My bad notworthy.gif

Always check Maxis than Hotlink. tongue.gif

I always wondering why there is a difference in fee. Now I know, thanks to u biggrin.gif
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guys, how much maxis charge for 1mb online?
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1mb is rm10 ...


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regarding Maxis 3G rate, is it "cheap" compare to other telco in Malaysia? perhaps, other than Malaysia? i think its quite expensive liao.

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@loumou,
Maxis charges for data are based on p/kb download usage. It's at 1sen/kb but if you're on a subscribed plan, it drops to 0.5sen/kb.
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wow...1mb rm10....that's kind of costly.....
anyone knows is there any daily or hourly online subcription for maxis??
i heard they do have rm2 per hour / daily pass -rm8

anyone can clarify this? brows.gif
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@loumou,
Yes Maxis does have daily/hourly pass. Please get more information from www.maxis.com.my smile.gif
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Yep, best way is to put garbage in the APN settings.. as even if you can't turn off edge.. it still can't access anything.. you can do it manually, so no JB needed (provided you installed the carrier bundle)
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how can we do that.. mind to guide me...
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QUOTE(loumou @ Nov 6 2009, 02:33 PM)
wow...1mb rm10....that's kind of costly.....
anyone knows is there any daily or hourly online subcription for maxis??
i heard they do have rm2 per hour / daily pass -rm8

anyone can clarify this? brows.gif
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last time i suscribe RM8 for 5mb ... see the different ? if i pay per use, it is RM50 ... but i save RM42 from the plan ...
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I have changed to Digi from Maxis and register for the Digi Unlimited 58 Plan, but I found out my phone has disable the Tethering function. Anyone know what is the problem? Digi doesn't allow to have tethering?
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@ilyas_jamal,
Please refer to pinned threads on how to disable APN. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281

@zijian,
Internet Tethering apparently has been disabled across all non-official networks. Pop a Maxis SIM in and ta-dah, U get Internet Tethering again smile.gif At this point, nothing can be done, I think.
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QUOTE(zijian @ Nov 7 2009, 09:40 AM)
I have changed to Digi from Maxis and register for the Digi Unlimited 58 Plan, but I found out my phone has disable the Tethering function. Anyone know what is the problem? Digi doesn't allow to have tethering?
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in other words, only official telco such as maxis is tethering enable.

read this if u want to enable urs
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281/+11
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Just got my iPhone. I was checking with a few maxis customer service ppl abt tracking data usage. Unfortunately most of them told me that you can only check at the end of yourbilling cycle. One lady told me I can check via *100# but itried without success. maxis CS (123) also can't give me my data usage.

My question is, how are you guys tracking your data usage? Using iPhone itself is the only option I have currently but maxis CS told me it is not accurate. Looking at forums I read that some discrepency may occur because of packet loss, but that should be be alot.
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hello guys,

im using an iphone 2g, but the bill includes a 3g data usage...?

i would like to know how are the mobile internet(3g data usage) for celcom postpaid being charged?
what kinda apps would attract these kinda data usage fees?

a few of the apps im using(which i think are related) are like irealsms and swirlymms2.
i seriously did not know iphone 2g would have any 3g data usage fees. im using everything via wifi and have not browsed thru anything via wap.

anybody can help me clarify this? need some advice.
thanks alot! =)

hello guys,

im using an iphone 2g, but the bill includes a 3g data usage...?

i would like to know how are the mobile internet(3g data usage) for celcom postpaid being charged?
what kinda apps would attract these kinda data usage fees?

a few of the apps im using(which i think are related) are like irealsms and swirlymms2.
i seriously did not know iphone 2g would have any 3g data usage fees. im using everything via wifi and have not browsed thru anything via wap. and my gprs usage is being charged separately from 3g data charge.

anybody can help me clarify this? need some advice.
thanks alot! =)

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you gprs maybe. jb -> sbsetting -> off gprs
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@wz3k,
U can use the iPhone to track your data Usage. If you haven't jailbroken ur phone the information on Usage is quite accurate. Also, please take into account both upload and download data.

@anti-LAx2,
So as long as you're connected and using data services u will be charged. The i2G does not have 2G capabilities but it would have GPRS/EDGE capabilities logging U onto the internet. You can disable data if U wish by tweaking APN. To know how to do that, please check out the pinned threads.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281
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QUOTE(masahito @ Nov 7 2009, 05:20 PM)
you gprs maybe. jb -> sbsetting -> off gprs
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hi, thanks for the reply.
but in my bill statement, the gprs usage is also being charged separately?
does anybody know what are attracting the 3g charges?
thx alot


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@anti-LAx2,
So as long as you're connected and using data services u will be charged.  The i2G does not have 2G capabilities but it would have GPRS/EDGE capabilities logging U onto the internet.  You can disable data if U wish by tweaking APN.  To know how to do that, please check out the pinned threads.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281
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okay thanks alot for the advice. i will try it out but why am i being charged for the gprs usage separately too? how can i disable data for gprs also?
thank you...

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QUOTE(anti-LAx2 @ Nov 7 2009, 05:30 PM)
hi, thanks for the reply.
but in my bill statement, the gprs usage is also being charged separately?
does anybody know what are attracting the 3g charges?
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3G is just a denomination of speed.

celcom probably just clumped the entire internet usage (2G, 2.5G, 3G, HSDPA) to 3G.

at the end of the day, you are being charged based on your usage (nothing to do with your speed)

hence, it doesn't make difference if you have used 1MB on gprs or 1MB on 3G


Added on November 7, 2009, 5:35 pmAFAIK, maxis operates this manner as well.

refer the picture extracted from google

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Thanks tinkerbel. Mind to clarify what cause jailbroken phone data statistics to be inaccurate? I have fakeAPN on all the time unless when I want to connect. I also disable ads using the hosts file already.. thanks

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@wz3k,
U can use the iPhone to track your data Usage.  If you haven't jailbroken ur phone the information on Usage is quite accurate.  Also, please take into account both upload and download data.

@anti-LAx2,
So as long as you're connected and using data services u will be charged.  The i2G does not have 2G capabilities but it would have GPRS/EDGE capabilities logging U onto the internet.  You can disable data if U wish by tweaking APN.  To know how to do that, please check out the pinned threads.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281
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@wz3k,
I've NO idea what causes the data to be inaccurate but most people here on a jailbroken set reports the data usage statistics to be inaccurate. I haven't jailbroken my phone n thus far data usage statistics seem to match my Maxis bills.

Another thing to take note is to make sure your fake APN is indeed working; some people have reported it doesn't work on theirs.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Nov 7 2009, 05:33 PM)
3G is just a denomination of speed.

celcom probably just clumped the entire internet usage (2G, 2.5G, 3G, HSDPA) to 3G.

at the end of the day, you are being charged based on your usage (nothing to do with your speed)

hence, it doesn't make difference if you have used 1MB on gprs or 1MB on 3G


Added on November 7, 2009, 5:35 pmAFAIK, maxis operates this manner as well.

refer the picture extracted from google

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tq for the info...so if i tweak the apn, i wouldn't be charged for any data usage anymore? how bout gprs, how do i disable it to avoid anymore gprs data usage?

thanks again for the replies. very much appreciated because recently 3g data usage and gprs usage have been quite substantial in my bills.
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@anti-LAx2,
If you're successful in tweaking your APN U will totally disable data services and that includes GPRS smile.gif
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Thanks tinkerbel. Mind to clarify what cause jailbroken phone data statistics to be inaccurate? I have fakeAPN on all the time unless when I want to connect. I also disable ads using the hosts file already.. thanks
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for starters, jailbreaking is not even endorsed by apple and also deemed illegal by them?
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for starters, jailbreaking is not even endorsed by apple and also deemed illegal by them?
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its immoral from their sense...
but current jailbreak is make use of exploit loophole....
jailbreaker does not modify the core/kernel...
so it is not illegal to jailbreak....

tats y til now Apple not suing any1, but rather spend time to find way to seal it off...
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Nov 7 2009, 06:01 PM)
its immoral from their sense...
but current jailbreak is make use of exploit loophole....
jailbreaker does not modify the core/kernel...
so it is not illegal to jailbreak....

tats y til now Apple not suing any1, but rather spend time to find way to seal it off...
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for starters, jailbreaking is not even endorsed by apple and also deemed illegal by them?
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Yes I understand that it is illegal and not endorsed by apple but that does not explain it. Unless my understanding is wrong, technically jailbroken apps are also calling the same dialer/protocol as the Apps Store apps to get to the internet. And so far in my experiment, using jailbroken apps via 3g, I still see the data counter increasing.

It's like you connect your laptop to the internet via a modem with data counter, and you're using illegal aps vs genuine apps. The only way data going in and out, regardless of legal or not is via the modem and the counter will still count all data. Unless of course, IF in iPhone case, the jailbroken apps are using separate dialer but I doubt that this is the case.

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for starters, jailbreaking is not even endorsed by apple and also deemed illegal by them?
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in other words, only official telco such as maxis is tethering enable.

read this if u want to enable urs
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Too bad, my iphone already 3.1.2. Any way to downgrade it?
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QUOTE(zijian @ Nov 7 2009, 06:29 PM)
Too bad, my iphone already 3.1.2. Any way to downgrade it?
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Why do you want to downgrade?
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QUOTE(wz3k @ Nov 7 2009, 06:19 PM)
Yes I understand that it is illegal and not endorsed by apple but that does not explain it. Unless my understanding is wrong, technically jailbroken apps are also calling the same dialer/protocol as the Apps Store apps to get to the internet. And so far in my experiment, using jailbroken apps via 3g, I still see the data counter increasing.

It's like you connect your laptop to the internet via a modem with data counter, and you're using illegal aps vs genuine apps. The only way data going in and out, regardless of legal or not is via the modem and the counter will still count all data. Unless of course, IF in iPhone case, the jailbroken apps are using separate dialer but I doubt that this is the case.
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technically, only 1 channel it can go through...hence there should be recorded...
so far everything of mine is recorded, regardless Cydia, or others....
perhaps those who experience that they hav such an issue...could actually track down when this happen...
e.g. which app after u use, it does not recorded in counter, but u know this app access to internet/network (wifi/bluetooth excluded).
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Hi biggrin.gif

I didnt have the time to read the posts but I was told that iPhone doesnt track VOIP data. Prolly that's why your data is crazy high.

On another unrelated note, I switched to DiGi because of the same reason (I have no iPhone tho sad.gif). I'm sick of tip-toeing within my RM8/5MB data limit with Value Plan 50 and opted for RM48/3GB with DiGi instead. Whee biggrin.gif

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I have indeed check that my fakeAPN is working. I've tried with multiple apps (App Store & Cydia apps) and confirmed no internet connection is available if I turn off wifi and have fakeAPN enabled. Now I'm tracking my data usage using iphone like a hawk.. hahaha...

One thing I realized is that Maxis does not change your billing cycle. Mine was 17th before changing to iValue and still is afterward. Not sure how they're going to pro-rate stuff as I just got my iphone on 3rd Nov.

Does anybody know of a FREE app that can auto reset data statistics on your billing cycle? Hopefully there is one out there but so far I could not find it.. I know you can manually reset but.. in case we forgot..

Shame on maxis for not providing a way to track data usage online or otherwise. It should be illegal for them to do this!!

Anyway, many thanks for you guys out here.. this forum is a great help..

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@wz3k,
I've NO idea what causes the data to be inaccurate but most people here on a jailbroken set reports the data usage statistics to be inaccurate.  I haven't jailbroken my phone n thus far data usage statistics seem to match my Maxis bills.

Another thing to take note is to make sure your fake APN is indeed working; some people have reported it doesn't work on theirs.
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@Icehart,
zijian possibly wants to Internet Tether hence the thought of downgrading?

@wz3k,
Your Maxis bill cycle will not change; your data usage and free minutes will be pro-rated based on when you collected your iPhone.

Thus far, no such applications to help track data usage.
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QUOTE(zijian @ Nov 7 2009, 06:29 PM)
Too bad, my iphone already 3.1.2. Any way to downgrade it?
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with jb 3.1.2 non offical telco (i.e Digi, Celcom) also able to tethering


Added on November 8, 2009, 12:55 amrecently i had subscribed to Digi unlimited 58, the highest download speed that i ever achieved is 395kbps..... dunno is Digi or my setting problems..... anyone using Digi unlimited 58 here??

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Omg.. read up to 10 pages and I'm loss...
If i use WiFi, will effect the data rate as well?
If i use EDGE, obviously eats the data rate..
But why they even charge when we use WiFi then?
Whats the point of having WiFi?

Btw, i'm still new and just ordered an iphone from maxis, subscribing the ivalue2/155permonth last few days..

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isaac89, wifi is free ... may be the maxis CS doesn't know what is wifi ...

btw, my bill coming tml for the first time since i get iphone ... so i can check the different the data usage from my phone and maxis
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QUOTE(Ken @ Nov 9 2009, 09:34 PM)
isaac89, wifi is free ... may be the maxis CS doesn't know what is wifi ...

btw, my bill coming tml for the first time since i get iphone ... so i can check the different the data usage from my phone and maxis
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@isaac89,
Maxis sets are officially unlocked sets. No official iPhone units will come jailbroken. To Apple, that is illegal.
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Maxis sets are officially unlocked sets.  No official iPhone units will come jailbroken.  To Apple, that is illegal.
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QUOTE(wz3k @ Nov 7 2009, 10:46 PM)
I have indeed check that my fakeAPN is working. I've tried with multiple apps (App Store & Cydia apps) and confirmed no internet connection is available if I turn off wifi and have fakeAPN enabled. Now I'm tracking my data usage using iphone like a hawk.. hahaha...

One thing I realized is that Maxis does not change your billing cycle. Mine was 17th before changing to iValue and still is afterward. Not sure how they're going to pro-rate stuff as I just got my iphone on 3rd Nov.

Does anybody know of a FREE app that can auto reset data statistics on your billing cycle? Hopefully there is one out there but so far I could not find it.. I know you can manually reset but.. in case we forgot..

Shame on maxis for not providing a way to track data usage online or otherwise. It should be illegal for them to do this!!

Anyway, many thanks for you guys out here.. this forum is a great help..
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i stop using fakeapn coz drains my battery, somemore cant use to send mms
now i just edit carrier plist and can edit juz the cellular data apm. can still send mms but no more accident internet usage icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Nov 10 2009, 05:49 PM)
i stop using fakeapn coz drains my battery, somemore cant use to send mms
now i just edit carrier plist and can edit juz the cellular data apm. can still send mms but no more accident internet usage  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Sorry, I don't understand, but how does fakeAPN drain your battery?, as far I can understand it does the same thing as manually changing your APN.. and I don't see that it runs in the background using ps -e in the terminal..

What am I missing here?
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@xpresside,
I'm with tnsai on the fake APN draining your battery. I was using that for about 10 months with no battery issues.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 30 2009, 12:18 PM)
@tnsai,
Yup.. it makes me wonder, Y i was so ansty about it earlier - and a good thing too cause at least now I save some $ instead of paying RM99 to Maxis every month smile.gif
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Tinkerbell,
were you tied to maxis contract when you purchased the phone?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 10 2009, 07:50 PM)
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I'm with tnsai on the fake APN draining your battery.  I was using that for about 10 months with no battery issues.
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hey there are reports on the net that others are having the same issue. so im not the only 1
as many or some of u mentioned b4, iphone tends to connect to the internet whenever it wants to. and trying to keep the apps updated. randomly searching updates for the os. so when it fails to connect it will try to reconnect for a few more times.
when i check my hotlink statement, i can see gprs charges every few hours eventho im not using the phone.
if fakeapn isnt draining ur battery, consider urself lucky or do a quick comparison on how long ur fon last when u off fakeapn n on it.
when using it my phone can barely last a day, now can last more than a day
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Nov 11 2009, 09:34 AM)
hey there are reports on the net that others are having the same issue. so im not the only 1
as many or some of u mentioned b4, iphone tends to connect to the internet whenever it wants to. and trying to keep the apps updated. randomly searching updates for the os. so when it fails to connect it will try to reconnect for a few more times.
when i check my hotlink statement, i can see gprs charges every few hours eventho im not using the phone.
if fakeapn isnt draining ur battery, consider urself lucky or do a quick comparison on how long ur fon last when u off fakeapn n on it.
when using it my phone can barely last a day, now can last more than a day
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Hmmm ok, thanks for sharing that with us, that is pretty interesting.. luckily for me i fall into one of the "worked-perfectly-for" category. I guess this is something for everybody to look out for..
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Oh this scares me..
I haven get my phone yet but 1gb free data is more than enough i supposed?
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QUOTE(Cyan7 @ Nov 11 2009, 12:54 PM)
Oh this scares me..
I haven get my phone yet but 1gb free data is more than enough i supposed?
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> Is iData/iValue's 500MB data bundle sufficient for casual surfing?
- Yes. Based on feedback from few forummers, Facebook, YouYube, IM, Surfing, Apps download and updates take up roughly 500MB per month. Just an estimation though. If you're an heavy user on downloads and YouTube, do take up higher capacity data bundle.
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Example: (credits to nokia2003)
i don't jailbreak and tether my iPhone (important piece of information) and i'm on the 250MB/month. let me illustrate on, my typical average usage per day; i'm perpetually on LYN (not the lite version), retrieve and reply e-mails (6 accounts), read news (from different sites), moderate another forum, blog hopping, IM chatting and the odd apps updating. i typically, spend approximately 6 hours away from my home during university days and rely heavily on the optus 3G network of course. also bear in mind that i have never exceeded my data allowance. this website should also be helpful to estimate your usage.

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xpresside,

found some info from this forum:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=764706

from the forum, looks like the cause are push and notification. If you have these two things enabled, then your iPhone will be looking for connection when it needs to fetch data for push or notification service.

also from the forum, I find the tool "iPhone Configuration Utility 2.1" is a great tool to track what your phone is doing (console view). So far my phone is not connecting randomly or searching for updates "sesuka hati". I'll do some more tracking using this tool and I'll update if anything changes..

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QUOTE(xpresside @ Nov 11 2009, 09:34 AM)
hey there are reports on the net that others are having the same issue. so im not the only 1
as many or some of u mentioned b4, iphone tends to connect to the internet whenever it wants to. and trying to keep the apps updated. randomly searching updates for the os. so when it fails to connect it will try to reconnect for a few more times.
when i check my hotlink statement, i can see gprs charges every few hours eventho im not using the phone.
if fakeapn isnt draining ur battery, consider urself lucky or do a quick comparison on how long ur fon last when u off fakeapn n on it.
when using it my phone can barely last a day, now can last more than a day
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Data Usage:
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QUOTE(wz3k @ Nov 11 2009, 01:05 PM)
xpresside,

found some info from this forum:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=764706

from the forum, looks like the cause are push and notification. If you have these two things enabled, then your iPhone will be looking for connection when it needs to fetch data for push or notification service.

also from the forum, I find the tool "iPhone Configuration Utility 2.1" is a great tool to track what your phone is doing (console view). So far my phone is not connecting randomly or searching for updates "sesuka hati". I'll do some more tracking using this tool and I'll update if anything changes..

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True!
Push emails and notifications automatically updates your email which means they connect to 3g. Correct me if i'm wrong.
So if it's not useful to you, just simply switch it all to Fetch..

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@whizzy,
My original i3GS is a Melbourne unit. I subsequently purchased a 2nd unit for a cousin in Germany and on that Maxis purchase, I signed up for the 12 month iData 2 plan.

@Cyan7,
1GB should be suffice.
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Hmm my bill is not here yet, but according to the hotline my bill this month is about RM111 which I guess is normal considering the SMS i've sent etc .. no crazy data bill and I've loosened up this month biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Nov 11 2009, 04:49 PM)
Hmm my bill is not here yet, but according to the hotline my bill this month is about RM111 which I guess is normal considering the SMS i've sent etc .. no crazy data bill and I've loosened up this month biggrin.gif
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Supposedly is Rm100?
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yes.. but landline calls, SMS to other networks are not included in the bill
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Guys,

I need to ask you guys regarding IM+, i'm working from home.. so my phone n laptop using WIFI. Start from today I'd like to use IM+ 24/7 using my iphone. So no one disturb me when playing game/watch movies huhu.

But if i enable the PUSH notification, and connect to most of the social networks, and when I go out from my home, it will use my maxis data rite, then when i come back home then IM+ automatically use my wifi without me restarting the apps rite?


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@manchurr,
Yes that is absolutely right, but if you don't have a data service plan or have disabled APN, your IM+ won't work if there's no wifi around
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 11 2009, 09:55 PM)
@manchurr,
Yes that is absolutely right, but if you don't have a data service plan or have disabled APN, your IM+ won't work if there's no wifi around
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Thanks tink! I'm just afraid that if i come back home form using data, it will still use data where it should be using wifi..


Added on November 12, 2009, 12:51 ambattery drain so fast using push notification for IM+..

from 6pm. til now. already 30% huhu.

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SBsetting addon FakeAPN is a good tool if u frequent chging the apn
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i juz got my iPhone last 2weeks...its on 22nd of OCT..but on 24th OCT, my bill reached RM176.95 deduct the RM40 advance payment, i have to pay RM136.95...i subscribed for the iValue 1...it should be RM60 but it double up. And now the bill reached me and it stated there I had used up 65GB of network...what the hell?!! 2days can use up 65GB...Whats the matter? I complain to maxis CS and dont know what are they talking about what need 3days to activate my iValue la...But now the bill there stated everything is iValue1..the call and sms they deduct for my but not the network..The usage of my network is RM327.51..WHAT The hell wrong with their calculation? No tethering and sowhatever.
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QUOTE(angemk @ Nov 12 2009, 12:51 PM)
i juz got my iPhone last 2weeks...its on 22nd of OCT..but on 24th OCT, my bill reached RM176.95 deduct the RM40 advance payment, i have to pay RM136.95...i subscribed for the iValue 1...it should be RM60 but it double up. And now the bill reached me and it stated there  I had used up 65GB of network...what the hell?!! 2days can use up 65GB...Whats the matter? I complain to maxis CS and dont know what are they talking about what need 3days to activate my iValue la...But now the bill there stated everything is iValue1..the call and sms they deduct for my but not the network..The usage of my network is RM327.51..WHAT The hell wrong with their calculation? No tethering and sowhatever.
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Think u may have used 3G before they activated your plan. For my case, they said only use after 1 day and I actually callled them the next day to check if it has been activated before using. My bill is ok...
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SBsetting addon FakeAPN is a good tool if u frequent chging the apn
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not good coz fakeapn addon disable your mms setting also
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Does anyone have maxis billing does they record the usage of MB use in your billing for those who took iValue Plan 1,2,3,4 ?
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Nov 12 2009, 01:51 PM)
not good coz fakeapn addon disable your mms setting also
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@MX510,
Yes it is recorded in the bill total usage; I am on iData 2 though but am sure it's the same for the rest; unless you're on an unlimited plan.

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not good coz fakeapn addon disable your mms setting also
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Hm.. Im not sure about this. But I had tried fakeApn before, it seems just blocked my internet (data) access but i'm still able to received and send MMS. AFAIK, i thought MMS were independent from data traffics? Otherwise, if MMS were part of boardband data why maxis will still charged for MMS?
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is that idata3 value ?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 12 2009, 03:11 PM)
@MX510,
Yes it is recorded in the bill total usage; I am on iData 2 though but am sure it's the same for the rest; unless you're on an unlimited plan.
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@MX510,
In that case, you probably won't have data usage stated on ur bill.

@`arthas,
iData 3 is limited to 3GB. Maxis no longer offers their new users the unlimited plan.
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QUOTE(angemk @ Nov 12 2009, 12:51 PM)
i juz got my iPhone last 2weeks...its on 22nd of OCT..but on 24th OCT, my bill reached RM176.95 deduct the RM40 advance payment, i have to pay RM136.95...i subscribed for the iValue 1...it should be RM60 but it double up. And now the bill reached me and it stated there  I had used up 65GB of network...what the hell?!! 2days can use up 65GB...Whats the matter? I complain to maxis CS and dont know what are they talking about what need 3days to activate my iValue la...But now the bill there stated everything is iValue1..the call and sms they deduct for my but not the network..The usage of my network is RM327.51..WHAT The hell wrong with their calculation? No tethering and sowhatever.
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Sad.. they did not inform u that the ivalue takes effect only after 3 day on the day u took ur phone??
But supposedly, the ivalue should have start take effect right after u got the phone if im not mistaken..

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just get my first bill ...

iphone data counter is 90M for download and upload ... maxis bill me 129M ...

not sure if those are wifi usage ...
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@`arthas,
I've 500MB p/month and thus far I haven't had problems with over usage.

@Cyan7,
The iValue plans should take effect about 2hrs after you get your phone; it'll take a while for Maxis to get it activated.

@Ken,
Wifi usage is not calculated in the Usage counter.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 13 2009, 12:04 AM)
@`arthas,
I've 500MB p/month and thus far I haven't had problems with over usage.

@Cyan7,
The iValue plans should take effect about 2hrs after you get your phone; it'll take a while for Maxis to get it activated.

@Ken,
Wifi usage is not calculated in the Usage counter.
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Thanks, then once i get my phone, ill use it after 2+ hours..
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@Cyan7,
To be save, check with the person at the counter when you collect your phone smile.gif
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To be save, check with the person at the counter when you collect your phone smile.gif
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Sure i will, thanks alot tinkerbel
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tinkerbel, it means maxis still charge people for wifi usage ?

i use to on wifi when at home and surf net
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QUOTE(Ken @ Nov 12 2009, 11:31 PM)
just get my first bill ...

iphone data counter is 90M for download and upload ... maxis bill me 129M ...

not sure if those are wifi usage ...
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QUOTE(Ken @ Nov 13 2009, 08:29 AM)
tinkerbel, it means maxis still charge people for wifi usage ?

i use to on wifi when at home and surf net
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Settings > General >Usage > Cellular Network Data, does not take into account data usage via WiFi.

what Maxis billed you for is data usage via 3G/EDGE, where you're not on WiFi.
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b4 digi subscriber,just because of iphone i have to convert maxis.The whole data usage issue is a big heartache. Thought of going back to Digi.Do not mind the penalty of 100+ plus the 300+subsidy paid to maxis. Guys,iphone 3gs on Digi works?
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QUOTE(lleihuan @ Nov 13 2009, 09:14 AM)
b4 digi subscriber,just because of iphone i have to convert maxis.The whole data usage issue is a big heartache. Thought of going back to Digi.Do not mind the penalty of 100+ plus the 300+subsidy paid to maxis. Guys,iphone 3gs on Digi works?
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Supposedly, as it is an unlocked unit.
Correct me if I'm wrong. notworthy.gif
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post Nov 13 2009, 08:24 PM

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@Ken,
Maxis doesn't charge you if you're on Wifi cause you're not connecting to their data service.

@lleihuan,
Yes the i3GS works with all our MY telcos [save for Internet Tethering]
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post Nov 13 2009, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 12 2009, 03:45 PM)
@MX510,
In that case, you probably won't have data usage stated on ur bill.

@`arthas,
iData 3 is limited to 3GB.  Maxis no longer offers their new users the unlimited plan.
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Even previous rm 99 unlimited data plan is limit to 5gb because I'm using it previously for two years till I gave up for iPhone iData value 3.


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post Nov 14 2009, 08:39 PM

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this is what maxis give me, sad.gif.
any suggestion guys ?, really disappointment me.

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