Too bad.
Velodyne DD18 can;t join the shootout.
Just like you all describe,the lower the frequency,then the better the subwoofer is.
Means the DD-18 which is at 14 hz wins the shootout?
But IMHO JL Audio still rocks well since it has been highly recommended and 2009 absolute sound winner too if im not wrong.
But the shop in Amcorp Mall always close
And what is the frequency that the PB13 can dig?

This post has been edited by benben79: Dec 19 2009, 12:55 AM

Oh..
Mean SVS better if compare like this?

Since SVS is really that good,why the JL Audio win more awards while the SVS had nothing?

LOL but every people,their ear sensitivity is different.
So maybe SVS not ngam the magazine dude that tested SVS.
But ngam you all

LOL HT Kaki.
You sell SVS product of course say the best ma.rite?

(cabutsss)

[quote=htkaki,Dec 20 2009, 09:06 AM]
why cabut? LOL...

To set record straight, I had never claimed it is the best . The top ought to be ED A7-900 and followed by Epik Conquest. I think Seaton Submersive should be a close second. In local scene, it could be Paradigm Sub25. I used to have high regards for Paradigm esp the Servo 15.

As you have space constraint, the F113 is the sub to look for, which I did mention earlier . Btw, I thought you are die-hard DD-12 fan ( http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1120113/+180 ) since you had only audition it Bro, do let me know when you had purchased the F113. May I bring the 13-Ultra for a side-by-side comparison if you allow? Just want to know how far the Ultra is losing out since F113 won many awards. And if got B&W PV1, much better. The Sub of The Year winner and most importantly, it has won WHF Award for best high end sub for SIX years since 2004 (since awards matter to you)

Sorry boss for replaying late.
Haha afraid being hantam by you
Submersive?should check the website or avs forum later since I had never heard this brand before.
Since you have mentioned it earlier it should be a good brand too.
Yea.Paradigm sub is good but I never listen to it before.
And I never audition the DD12 before since A&L puchong and amcorp mall never had one.
Maybe sold out or waiting for the new DD series.
But hey boss,for your opinion,which sub better(not SVS sub) in btw Velodyne DD12 and JL Audio F113?
And not to say award la.Depends also what sub that win the award
And i just auditioned a REL sub last week at CMY at balakong.
The bass sounds like very (lembik).
Not that punchy and the price is quite expensive.
If im not wrong their list price is RM9K++
Or maybe REL sub is meant for music since CMY sell more equipments for music only.
And sure bro,when I find out which sub is suitable for me,and maybe I will allowed you to had a shootout
And btw Merry Christmas.

This post has been edited by benben79: Dec 25 2009, 01:46 AM

But HT kaki,do you listen to DD12 or F113 before?
How do you know DD12 would lose to F113?
If you listen to it before maybe I would consider your opinion.
But sounds very wrong here if you just judge a subwoofer performance by just reading graph and spec.
Maybe still we must listen to it only we make a conclusion here

And between,if F113 edge out DD12 maybe DD15 still can win F113
F113 is around rm13k plus and which I think a little more expensive than DD12.
But DD15 should be around rm15k plus
If i choose expensive sub,maybe i will decrease the budget for speakers
If not later BINI

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Added on December 28, 2009, 12:20 am20K for Paradigm sub?
NO
My budget for subwoofer is around rm12k till rm14k.
Hopefully not more than rm15k.
If not,need to eat nasi bungkus for few months

This post has been edited by benben79: Dec 28 2009, 12:20 AM

watch Terminator Salvation at the GSC Pavillion before.
I think it is a THX certified movie and THX cinema too.
Their bass was so deep and strong.
Enough to shake my heart inside
Never know bluray also so geng!
Awesome
And most probably im going for PSB speaker.
If budget enough,maybe for the Synchrony TWO(not one since it is expensive)
Or if really been poisened 99 and the price btw Synchrony 1 and 2 is not that far apart,then I will go for Synchrony One.
And im looking for a pre and power combo set up.
No need to upgrade anymore
And Mark Levinson price is enough to left a big hole on my wallet and bank account.
So maybe Rotel or NAD.
I tested the Pioneer LX82 before at Desa Home theatre.
A very powerful and awesome amplifier too

Nadky?
Maybe should pm him.
And FYI,I never think negatively about you.
And seriously la Taukeh,by the way you explain things about HT gears I know you are a very professional taukeh.
And again,if you are a JL Audio,Sunfire or Velo distributor,I would happily buy it from you

Nevermind taukeh,its okay no need to sorry.
LOL you are a pro by the way you explain.
And between my house is still under renovation.
Should be ready before CNY and yes you are always welcome when everything is ready.
Im not a regular customer.
Just that A&L had every gears that I interested.
While AV Designs and Perfect Hifi selling all expensive brands.
CMY more on music.
Thats why I had to look around for a suitable and affordable system.

PSB synchrony one
How was it?

Boss you tested the PSB Synchrony One before?
Any comment?
Went to Amcorp Mall on last Saturday.
They demoing the PSB Synchrony with Densen Audio mono.
The sound was so sweet and detail.
And their bass is very strong for a floorstander size like this.
But for HT setup,what do you think bro?

Wow.
Should go for another demo again.
Thanks bro

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Added on December 28, 2009, 2:41 pmWow as HT KAKI described before.
Epik conquest stil one of the best sub.
Actually I starting to pay serious attention towards JL f113 now.
But AMCORP MALL AV Synergy always close
No chance to audition it

This post has been edited by benben79: Dec 28 2009, 02:41 PM

Yes I am also trying to pay a visit to Asia Sound at Amcorp Mall.
But last Saturday they never open
Paradigm speakers are good too.
If got money,surely I will buy Paradigm Signature S8.
But too expensive
So maybe Synchrony more suitable.
Epik?
No la boss.
Maybe JL Audio F113 or DD12/DD15 might enough.
Since my room is just medium size.
Around 14 x 22.
And taukeh,a JL Audio F113 suitable for this room size?
If one maybe its okay.
If two I can;t do anything.
2 sub is veryyyyy expensive.

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Added on December 29, 2009, 12:22 amWow Taukeh.
Krell is nothing?
A hi end power amp can easily buy a condominium.
And if im not wrong its the KRELL FBI
But im not a DATUK class,so no need to buy KRELL.
SF?Sonus Faber?
Though it is meant for music only?
And Klipsch Palladium is not cheap.
More than 10k USD

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Added on December 29, 2009, 12:33 amOk boss.
Don't know why they always close.
Selling Hi end stuff such as RUNCO,Meridian and JL Audio also can do business like this
I went there 3times including last Saturday but still never open.
So ended up at A&L listening to PSB Synchrony One.
Really a very awesome speaker.
A floorstander speaker below 5k USD can achieve a soundstage like this is really unbelievable.
Or maybe their source is good too.
And boss you tested the Synchrony One recently also?
If for music,try to buy a Chinese Audiophile cd name Paramita.
During AV Show 2009,Perfect Hifi use this cd as their demo cd pair with Wilson Audio Sasha,Dcs Scarlatti and Pass lab mono.
Can buy a BMW with this set up.
And this cd(Paramita)song number 7 is really a suitable music to test speaker bass.
Just my opinion....

This post has been edited by benben79: Dec 29 2009, 12:35 AM