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post Jun 14 2009, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(IGax2000 @ Jun 14 2009, 12:53 AM)
Due to this happened, compugt was warning by bursa and questioned..
compugt : i got no idea what is happening.... doh.gif that's the answer!!
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Compugt has been UMA by bursa , and they have replied ... the answer is due to recent reduce of margin from TA , the heavy selling activities are involved here. As long the price not up too much , it wont be a big issue.
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post Jun 14 2009, 02:34 AM

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http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...vy-selling.html

Anyone can help to explain the implications of margin facility revision?

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QUOTE(IGax2000 @ Jun 14 2009, 12:53 AM)
Due to this happened, compugt was warning by bursa and questioned..
compugt : i got no idea what is happening.... doh.gif that's the answer!!
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this was done last 10 minutes a day after they were query
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Jun 14 2009, 02:34 AM)
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...vy-selling.html

Anyone can help to explain the implications of margin facility revision?
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This is chicken & egg explanation.

The couple disposed more than tons of shares before Bursa query them, in the mean time, the investment bank will decrease their margin facility because their share already dropped or removal of cash deposit. Then the couple using back this effect as a cause.

For margin facility is depends on your cash deposit or shares available, it is hard for us to know the reason behind the revision.

They know Bursa rules & regulations very well, they know how to play.

Don't be fooled by newspaper. They take note on what people tell only.

This post has been edited by ZPOW: Jun 14 2009, 11:38 AM
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post Jun 14 2009, 12:37 PM

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better just stay at 0.075 -0.08 for some period of time .... to sweep off the weak holder. Stil got 40 million shares to depose(from margin call). IF the director still keep selling after the deposing of that 40 million, we better start thinking how to exit. Well that unlikely to happen.

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post Jun 14 2009, 03:35 PM

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I hope someone working in Compugt can share their view here .. rumors are welcome rclxms.gif ..


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post Jun 14 2009, 04:40 PM

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Too bad so far haven't see any compugt worker reply here...
I doubt if anyone of them know the existing of this topic.. xD
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post Jun 14 2009, 04:42 PM

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if a worker shared information couldnt he get into serious trouble?
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post Jun 14 2009, 05:15 PM

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if he or she register a new account with another FAKE identity..

who will know? tongue.gif right?

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post Jun 14 2009, 05:35 PM

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its very easy to track u down dude. internet is not as secure as u think. insider trading is a very serious offence after all. and i doubt any employee is so stupid to risk it just to show off how much they know : /
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post Jun 14 2009, 05:37 PM

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Maybe for normal user it not secured but not for me smile.gif

I able to route from Malaysia to any country out there.
and also.. I able to WIFI from starbuck or even using other streamyx user account hotspot service smile.gif

So who are able to track the real me? smile.gif

btw, back to topic smile.gif
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General employee of the company won't know the details and situation of the company.

Ask those work in any listed company be it large or small or MNC, they don't know about the company financial situation nor know how cashflow situation of the company currently except few top management people until company released the Q report.
They only know a fraction issue that within their job scope, like more order being received, customers defaulting payment, new product is in the pipeline etc, or specifically daily operation within their job scope. For company shareholding structure issue and main company management issue, only top management can know it, and generally people won't disclose it. As top management people won't be stupid to do insider trading based on their known information, as if caught, it just means one's career could be in jeopardy totally and future employers would not dare to hire as well.

That's why we always only have the rumour until too late, just day or days before the actual news is coming out when negotiation and deal finally take place, just wait for paper work for announcement which generally where the rumour come out/news leak because it is done deal and script and issue being sent to lower management team people to do paper work. <-- that's where most rumour (that actually true and realised one) come from.

In early and middle stage of deal, we won't hear any news and company insiders/person involving won't dare to disclose it.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 14 2009, 06:03 PM)
General employee of the company won't know the details and situation of the company.

Ask those work in any listed company be it large or small or MNC, they don't know about the company financial situation nor know how cashflow situation of the company currently except few top management people until company released the Q report.
They only know a fraction issue that within their job scope, like more order being received, customers defaulting payment, new product is in the pipeline etc, or specifically daily operation within their job scope. For company shareholding structure issue and main company management issue, only top management can know it, and generally people won't disclose it.  As top management people won't be stupid to do insider trading based on their known information, as if caught, it just means one's career could be in jeopardy totally and future employers would not dare to hire as well. 

That's why we always only have the rumour until too late, just day or days before the actual news is coming out when negotiation and deal finally take place, just wait for paper work for announcement which generally where the rumour come out/news leak because it is done deal and script and issue being sent to lower management team people to do paper work. <-- that's where most rumour (that actually true and realised one) come from.

In early and middle stage of deal, we won't hear any news and company insiders/person involving won't dare to disclose it.
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I am quite certain there won't be any negative corporate development coming out of Compugates, or the couple will be in very hot soup for insider trading. Given that they have disposed of more 60% of their shares, they better ensure that there's no bad corporate development. I am very comfortable that whoever hold on to their position will ultimately make good money. The operator I believe is still in the game. The game is no over.
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post Jun 14 2009, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(omione @ Jun 13 2009, 08:49 PM)
Smartly is absolutely smart. I agree with him. Just wait for the show.

Margin selling as officially disclosed is just that - official. From my analysis, the price and volume had been manipulated. They could not be by forced selling nor natural buyer/seller activities. Someone is pulling the string. And I am glad there is someone pulling the string. Otherwise the price may not shoot like a rocket. The final objective is as old as the stock history - make big bucks. Those who have weak heart or those who can't see through the game will be flushed out.

I had opined before - get ready your trucks. If the price goes down to 5 sen or 3 sens, load up the stock. I have bought a sizable amount and am readying my truck to double up if the right opportunity arose.

The good balance sheet of Compugates is the margin of safety we all need, just in case.


Added on June 13, 2009, 8:53 pm

Thanks Zpow for the two stock ideas. Cyber Tower I won't touch - scary financial. M3Tech has potential. I'll certainly look at it after the price advance has retraced reasonable.


Added on June 13, 2009, 9:04 pmSmartly,

Shall we shift our discussion to managing our exit after the price heads north, because this route is a foregone conclusion. There's no other way but north.

Question: The price will surely not grow to the sky, not at least in one swoop. It may shoot up very strongly one day or two, and then retrace. Do we hold until it reaches the sky or buy and sell on the way up.

Any opinions?
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wow, omione, i didn't expect someone agreeing with me. Is it because i'm giving positive comments on COMPGUT ?? haha
Thank you for your flattering remark but i do agree COMPUGT's show is not end yet, i'm still waiting. Next week will be interesting,
i hope. laugh.gif
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post Jun 15 2009, 12:44 AM

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Let's see how's things on Monday.
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post Jun 15 2009, 01:16 AM

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AGM tmr ? what time ?


ops i found out edi ...

Compugates Holdings Berhad, Annual General Meeting, Jun 19, 2009, at 02:00 GMT Time. Location: Tropicana Golf & Country Resort, 47410 Petaling Jaya, .

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QUOTE(skylands @ Jun 15 2009, 01:16 AM)
AGM tmr ? what time ?
ops i found out edi ...

Compugates Holdings Berhad, Annual General Meeting, Jun 19, 2009, at 02:00 GMT Time. Location: Tropicana Golf & Country Resort, 47410 Petaling Jaya, .
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post Jun 15 2009, 09:55 AM

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who is in today ? who gonna in ?
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(skylands @ Jun 15 2009, 09:55 AM)
who is in today ? who gonna in ?
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better stay sideline, looking at current profile, if disposal start again in last 10mins, price likely to close at 7sen.
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QUOTE(smartly @ Jun 15 2009, 10:04 AM)
better stay sideline, looking at current profile, if disposal start again in last 10mins, price likely to close at 7sen.
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This thread has bcome real time ticker as well... tongue.gif



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